[Rhodes22-list] New here - intro and some questions
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R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sun Nov 14 09:06:49 EST 2010
People that trailer on a regular basis can rig a R22 with IMF in about
forty five minutes. De rigging and getting ready to tow is slightly longer.
Rummy
In a message dated 11/13/2010 10:28:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sealovertech at yahoo.com writes:
Thank you for the quick reply. How long would it take one healthy 6' tall
guy
to rig and launch a Rhodes? A lot of my sailing is in the afternoon
after
work so the quicker I can get it rigged the quicker I can launch.
I like your shirt analogy. I think of it like cars (I'm a car guy) I
tinker
with old Mercedes. I appreciate the over-engineering that went into them,
and I
enjoy their timeless style and relative simplicity. They designed them to
last
forever, and then a few more decades beyond that. Plus a 20 year old
Mercedes
is a screaming bargain. That said, I bought my wife a new Honda.
They
seem to be stamped out of tin but they build them very affordably, and
just good
enough to last exactly forever -- but no more than that.
That's kind of how I view the Rhodes and the Mac.
I guess I answered my own question. I *love* my old Mercedes, and don't
even
mind working on it because I really like it and intend to keep it for a
very
long time. I admire the wife's Accord (only $500 in repairs in 95K+
miles) but
think it's an incredibly boring appliance.
Not sure which would be easier to tow and launch. I usually end up
launching
and retrieving in a cross current on a busy ramp. I don't always get
lane
preference (those obnoxious powerboaters unstrap and prep their boats
right
there on the ramp instead of in the parking lot -- tying up one of the two
ramps) so the boat ends up drifting sideways off the trailer -- hopefully
against the finger pier, but often out into the abyss until I can get out
of the
truck, onto the pier, and grab a stay to yank it back to tie it off.
I'd
think the self-aligning trailer would alleviate a lot of that. Plus it
sits
low on the trailer. Will be draining a season's worth of water out of my
truck's rear differential this afternoon actually. And replacing a
spring
shackle that rusted out. Would be nice to not have to dunk the back half
of the
truck to launch a boat. (My current Mac/Venture sits a little high on the
trailer as well)
There's a few youtube videos of people stepping the mast on a Mac 25 but I
can't
even find a realistic time estimate to get a Rhodes from highway mode to
ramp-ready.
To add to the mix, the Mac is two hours away, the Rhodes is more like 6.
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From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 9:31:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New here - intro and some questions
Rob,
Most people on this list will think this is a no-brainer regardless of
price.
I'm cheap and still bought a Rhodes over less expensive boats. Rhodes
cost more
because of their quality but that's not what drove my decision. The
Rhodes has
so many positive features not found on the MacGregor that it is truly an
apples-to-oranges comparison. Think of your favorite and least favorite
shirts. Your favorite shirt likely cost more but was a better value, not
because of its quality, but because you wear it more often and probably
never
wear your least favorite shirt. I'm convinced that I sail my Rhodes more
because it's easier and more enjoyable to sail. If I look at cost per
hour of
fun, the Rhodes is less expensive than anything else I could have
purchased.
I paid Stan a ridiculous amount of money to recyle a 1986 Rhodes in 2004
but I
must admit that I've spent nothing on repairs aside from minimal routine
maintenance (mostly outboard service and bottom paint).
On the flip side 4x the cost is a lot of money and the MacGregor is
probably
much easier to trailer and launch, especially regarding mast raising.
Good luck!
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE
Kent Island, MD
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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Rob S.
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 4:54 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New here - intro and some questions
Joined last night, got my first digest today. I figured I'd introduce
myself.
I own a 1973 Venture 17 which I enjoy with the wife, or a friend, or
single-handed on the local lakes, the Susquehanna and the Chesapeake. I
first
saw a Rhodes at the Annapolis sailboat show last year. I was smitten.
I read
every page of that book Stan calls a brochure.
I tried overnighting on the 17 but just need (want?) something bigger, and
of
course I'm on a very tight budget.
Right now the top two choices are a Macgregor 25 at a bargain basement
price and
it needs work in a few areas that I have experience and ability (cleaning,
engine, woodworking, trailer modification) And a used Rhodes with
standard
floorplan, IMF, fancy engine lift and a Rhodes trailer. This is from
General
Boats, as-is. But it's exactly 4 times the price of the bargain basement
Mac. Still a bargain compared to the one private-sale Rhodes I've seen
lately. I presented both options to the wife. The Mac is in the "who
cares,
do what you want" price range and the Rhodes will require me to buy her new
curtains and put a tile floor in the kitchen, and will totally deplete my
allowance fund.
I'm seesawing back and forth. The 22 and 25 both seem to have "enough"
room.
The 22 I think would be more like my 17 in that if I feel like going out
for a
sail in the evening after work I can just go down to the river, rig and
launch
it myself and poke around until after sunset. (and launch in an
unprotected
ramp in river current)
I guess I really didn't have a question other than "is there other things I
should be thinking about in this comparison?"
Thank you in advance for any replies. -Rob
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