[Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz

Rick sloopblueheron at gmail.com
Fri Nov 19 14:53:59 EST 2010


Charles,

The CG was fine with my plastic gas tank.  They just cautioned me about e10
eating it.  That prompted me to change all my hoses, but the old tank is
doing fine.

Rick

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>wrote:

> Charles,
>
> What's wrong with plastic (HDPE, High-density polyethylene) gas tanks?  As
> long as they are DOT certified, they should meet all requirements, for
> recreational boating (maybe not for OSHA but I don't bring my R22 to
> jobsites).  Many are additionally CARB, EPA and ABYC certified.  It should
> be noted that the EPA regs have just become much more stringent:
>  Currently EPA and CARB are developing standards related to permeation
> rates for above deck - portable / permanent fuel tanks, fuel hoses and
> primer bulbs. These standards become law by 2011.
>  The time lines for "low perm" tanks and accessories are:
>    a.. Fuel Hoses; Jan 1,2009. Hoses must be certified in accordance with
> CP-510 ( Perm rate equal or less than 15 g/ m2/day)
>    b.. Self Sealing Cap (Portables); Jan 1, 2010. Cap must be certified in
> accordance with CP-510
>    c.. Primer Bulb and Marine Tank (Portable and Topside); Jan 1, 2011.
> (Perm Rate for Primer Bulb equal or less than 15 g/ m2/day) (Perm Rate for
> Marine Tank equal or less than 1.5 g/ m2/day) TP511 & TP512
>  The following websites can be used for additional information on the
> upcoming regulations: www.arb.ca.gov/omt/omt.htm and
> www.epa.gov/otaq/marine.htm
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Charles Nieman" Friday, November 19, 2010 12:05 PM
> >
> > Wait a minute here .... yall are busting my chops over a gas tank in the
> laz and you are useing plastic gas containers???? I hate to tell you this,
> but those do not meet OSHA regulations .... at least I have a metal gas can
> >
> > C
> >
> >> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:45:35 -0600
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
> >>
> >> That sounds like a good idea.
> >>
> >> Under the seat, there's no need for a fuel gauge. In the day, I can tell
> >> perfectly level where the line is in the tank just by looking at the
> side of
> >> the tank.
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
> >> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 09:11
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rum tank in laz
> >>
> >> Rummy,
> >>
> >> Ever open your laz on a sunny day? It can get very hot in there.
> >>
> >> I mounted an eye bolt under my bench. A bungee cord through the tank
> handle
> >> and hooked to the bolt keeps the gas tank from sliding out on a severe
> heel
> >> to starboard. And I can still slide the tank out enough to see the fuel
> >> gauge. (Easier than trying to see it leaning into the dark laz.)
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Advantage to storing in the lazz is that it is out of sight, lockable
> and
> >> > the lazz has loops in it to actually tie the tank in place. Under the
> seat
> >> > (it's current location) allows it to come flying out when healed over.
> I
> >> > haven't found a good way to tie it down yet under the seat. Also, out
> of
> >> > the
> >> > sun so gas tank lasts longer. No UV exposure. In my boat there is no
> >> > connection between the lazz and any other part of the boat. I know
> >> because
> >> > I have
> >> > crawled around inside mine several times.
> >> >
> >> > Rummy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 11/18/2010 7:01:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> > mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > I still want to know what the tremendous advantage of storing gasoline
> in
> >> > the laz is!
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >> >
> >> > From: "Hank" Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> >> > > Cell phone electricity is not an issue. That has been tested and
> >> proved
> >> > > to
> >> > > not be a threat, both by mythbusters and by real scientists.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hank
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, BenCittadino
> >> > > <bencittadino at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My only thoughts are static electricity and cell phone electricity.
> (
> >> > >> again,
> >> > >> I see, agreeing w/ MikeW ).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Of course I do have the electric lift for my Y9.9, and wiring for
> my
> >> > >> depth
> >> > >> sounder transducer, all routed through the laz.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Mike, we did what we could do and re-elected Rush Holt D-NJ(12) in
> my
> >> > >> district. I'm actually going to enjoy watching the Teapublicans
> learn
> >> > to
> >> > >> do
> >> > >> more than sulk in the corner and say "No".
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cuomo for President 2012! First Italian-American.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> BenC
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Ben Schultz wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I've sailed with Rummy. It doesn't last long enough to store.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:43, "Chris Cowie" <
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> >> > >
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Rummy:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Where do you store your Rum?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Christopher P. Cowie
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> >> > >> >> Suite 300
> >> > >> >> Washington, DC 20007
> >> > >> >> 202.342.2711
> >> > >> >> 202.342.2691 fax
> >> > >> >> 202.270.1470 mobile
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> cowieassociates.com
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> >> > >> >> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:56 PM
> >> > >> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Ben,
> >> > >> >> As all the old timers know, this is an old, rehashed topic that
> >> > Benny
> >> > >> >> brought up just to get the list talking again. I certainly
> >> > understand
> >> > >> >> everyone's
> >> > >> >> concerns, but tell me, where's the source of ignition in the
> lazz?
> >> > I
> >> > >> >> still
> >> > >> >> maintain that there is plenty of ventilation, even after looking
> at
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> CC
> >> > >> >> regulations.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Rummy
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> In a message dated 11/18/2010 2:50:02 P.M. Eastern Standard
> Time,
> >> > >> >> bencittadino at gmail.com writes:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Rummy and Charles and Whoever;
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I am very apart from Mike politically. However, let me say this
> as
> >> > >> >> gently
> >> > >> >> as
> >> > >> >> I can. GET THOSE FREAKING GAS CANS OUT OF THE LAZARETTE THIS
> VERY
> >> > >> >> MINUTE!!!!
> >> > >> >> Are you suicidal? Are you just so stubborn that you are willing
> to
> >> > >> >> die
> >> > >> >> rather than be reasonable? Whether the laz is "air tight" or
> >> > "water
> >> > >> >> tight"
> >> > >> >> means nothing. It is incredibly dangerous to store gasoline in
> >> that
> >> > >> >> small
> >> > >> >> enclosed space. Get it the heck out of there. You can only play
> >> > >> >> "russian
> >> > >> >> roulette" for so long before you get a bullet in the head.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> And, yes, the parents of that little girl who exploited her by
> >> > letting
> >> > >> >> her
> >> > >> >> sail around the world belong in jail, too!
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> your devoted colleague,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> BenC
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Ben Schultz wrote:
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Right on. Mission accomplished. When I get bored again, I'll
> >> > have
> >> > >> >> to
> >> > >> >> go
> >> > >> >>> back a decade and find another topic that used to get us fired
> >> up!
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael
> >> > D.
> >> > >> >>> Weisner
> >> > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:47
> >> > >> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Hey Rummy,
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Ben was bored so he threw a lit match into a tank of gas.
> >> Charles
> >> > >> >> took
> >> > >> >>> the
> >> > >> >>> bait. Da list responds. You ... nevermind. Ben, be careful
> >> > what
> >> > >> >> you
> >> > >> >>> wish
> >> > >> >>> for.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> I prefer to live to sail another day. I have even donned a life
> >> > >> >>> vest
> >> > >> >> in
> >> > >> >>> rough seas, lately. I must be growing up or something. It is
> >> > truly
> >> > >> >> a
> >> > >> >>> terrible thing, this getting older business.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Sail safe and make sure that your passengers are of a like
> mind.
> >> > >> >> Their
> >> > >> >>> lives are in your hands.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Mike
> >> > >> >>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> > >> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:35
> AM
> >> > >> >>>> Mike,
> >> > >> >>>> And how long have you been a part of this list? Do you really
> >> > >> >>>> expect
> >> > >> >> me
> >> > >> >>>> to
> >> > >> >>>> live my other people's rules? Ain't happening. I'm smarter
> than
> >> > the
> >> > >> >> rest
> >> > >> >>>> of
> >> > >> >>>> the planet. Is it noon yet? Anywhere?
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Rummy
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 11:26:25 A.M. Eastern Standard
> >> > Time,
> >> > >> >>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Rummy,
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Your mileage not withstanding, your practice constitutes an
> >> > unsafe
> >> > >> >>>> condition. Please review the USCG site
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/vent_partg
> >> > >> >> .asp
> >> > >> >>> x
> >> > >> >>>> with particular attention to the
> >> > >> >>>> following portion:
> >> > >> >>>> Portable Fuel Tanks
> >> > >> >>>> Compartments used to store vented portable fuel tanks or
> >> > >> >>>> containers
> >> > >> >> are
> >> > >> >>>> required to be equipped with natural ventilation.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Cockpit seat lockers in auxiliary sailboats are often used as
> >> fuel
> >> > >> >> tank
> >> > >> >>>> compartments for portable outboard motor fuel tanks. If this
> >> fuel
> >> > >> >> tank
> >> > >> >>>> vents
> >> > >> >>>> into the locker, then natural ventilation of this locker is
> >> > >> >> required.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Since fuel vapors seek the lowest point of any compartment,
> >> > >> >> gasoline
> >> > >> >>>> vapors should be considered when designing and constructing a
> >> > >> >>>> compartment
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>> that
> >> > >> >>>> will contain a fuel tank or container that vents into a
> >> > >> >> compartment.
> >> > >> >> Any
> >> > >> >>>> openings in or near the bottom of the compartment could permit
> >> > >> >> explosive
> >> > >> >>>> vapors to flow into the bilge of the boat where an ignition
> >> > source
> >> > >> >> might
> >> > >> >>>> ignite
> >> > >> >>>> the vapors.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> The "natural ventilation" must consist of:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> (1) supply opening(s) or duct(s) from the atmosphere or from a
> >> > >> >>>> ventilated compartment or from a compartment that is
> ventilated
> >> > >> >>>> to the atmosphere;
> >> > >> >>>> and
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> (2) exhaust opening(s) into another ventilated compartment or
> >> > >> >> exhaust
> >> > >> >>>> duct(s) to the atmosphere.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Each supply opening must be located on the exterior surface of
> >> > the
> >> > >> >> boat:
> >> > >> >>>> "Open to the atmosphere" means a compartment that has at least
> >> > 15
> >> > >> >> square
> >> > >> >>>> inches of open area directly exposed to the atmosphere for
> >> each
> >> > >> >> cubic
> >> > >> >>>> foot
> >> > >> >>>> of net compartment volume. The underseat space meets this
> >> > >> >> requirement
> >> > >> >>>> while
> >> > >> >>>> the laz space has insufficient ventilation and connects with
> >> the
> >> > >> >> cabin
> >> > >> >>>> interior and bilge through wiring channels. These ventilation
> >> > >> >>>> requirements
> >> > >> >>>> also apply to batteries that emit hydrogen gas during charging
> >> > >> >> (solar
> >> > >> >> or
> >> > >> >>>> otherwise) in confined spaces.
> >> > >> >>>> For those who are interested, the site also provides links to
> >> > pdfs
> >> > >> >> of
> >> > >> >>>> the
> >> > >> >>>> Boatbuilder's Handbook for download.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> A simpler version entitled "Safety Standards for Backyard Boat
> >> > >> >> Builders"
> >> > >> >>>> which I have found very useful over the years is available
> >> > at:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardb
> >> > >> >> oatb
> >> > >> >>>> uilders.pdf
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Please err on the side of safety. Don't play around with
> >> lives.
> >> > >> >> Many
> >> > >> >>>> of
> >> > >> >>>> these rules were established after an avoidable accident.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Mike
> >> > >> >>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> > >> >>>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010
> 10:15
> >> > AM
> >> > >> >>>>> Charles,
> >> > >> >>>>> Relax. I kept my fuel tank in the lazzerette for almost
> >> twenty
> >> > >> >> years.
> >> > >> >> I
> >> > >> >>>>> moved it only after I installed the electric motor lift which
> >> > >> >> places
> >> > >> >> an
> >> > >> >>>>> electric motor (sparks) in the lazz. The hatch cover for the
> >> > >> >>>>> lazz
> >> > >> >> is
> >> > >> >>>> not air
> >> > >> >>>>> tight and if you look under both seats you will see large
> >> > >> >> openings
> >> > >> >>>> which
> >> > >> >>>>> provide adequate ventilation. People on the list were worried
> >> > >> >> that I
> >> > >> >>>> was going to
> >> > >> >>>>> blow myself up, but as you can see, I'm still intact. I used
> >> > to
> >> > >> >> drink
> >> > >> >>>> like
> >> > >> >>>>> crazy and smoked cigars and cigarettes.......all at the same
> >> > >> >>>>> time
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > >> >>>>> never had a problem with gas fumes.
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> Rummy
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:08:19 A.M. Eastern Standard
> >> > Time,
> >> > >> >>>>> blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> I sail in teh suburbs of Dallas, Texas ..... I think I am the
> >> > >> >> only
> >> > >> >>>> Rhodie
> >> > >> >>>>> in these parts so you probably won't even hear the
> >> > >> >> explosion......I
> >> > >> >>>> do't
> >> > >> >>>>> have propane on the boat, I am guessing that would be for a
> >> > >> >> stove? I
> >> > >> >>>> don't
> >> > >> >>>>> have one of those either.
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> Thanks for the education, I will gfive some thought to moving
> >> > the
> >> > >> >>>>> tank.
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>> Charles
> >> > >> >>>>> s/v Blue Feather
> >> > >> >>>>> 84 R 22 ... recycled 96
> >> > >> >>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
> >> > >> >>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:53:59 -0500
> >> > >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction - Now gas tank
> >> in
> >> > >> >> laz
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> It depends on how far away from here you sail your Rhodes
> >> > ...
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> Basically, fuel vapors that accumulate can be fairly
> >> > explosive.
> >> > >> >> Since
> >> > >> >>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>> laz is not ventilated, it is not a great place to store
> >> > >> >> gasoline. I
> >> > >> >>>> have
> >> > >> >>>>>> always stored a 6 gal tank under the cockpit seat without a
> >> > >> >> problem
> >> > >> >>>>> where at
> >> > >> >>>>>> least the fumes (lighter than air) would not be trapped.
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> BTW, where do you store your propane (heavier than air)?
> >> > Please
> >> > >> >> do
> >> > >> >>>>>> not
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> store it in the cabin.
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> Where do you sail,again?
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> Mike
> >> > >> >>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> > >> >>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >>>>>> From: "Charles Nieman" <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> > >> >>>>>> To: "Rhodes List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:42 AM
> >> > >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> I don't know about all that political stuff ..... but
> what's
> >> > >> >> this
> >> > >> >>>>> about
> >> > >> >>>>>>> keeping your gas tank in tha lazerette????? That is where I
> >> > >> >> have
> >> > >> >>>>> always
> >> > >> >>>>>>> kept mine .... is this a problem????
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>> Charles
> >> > >> >>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:40:39 -0600
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> We are overdue for some angry -- or at least passionate
> >> > >> >> rants.
> >> > >> >>>>> Thoughts
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> on
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> midterm elections? Sarah Palin's book tour? Did dinosaurs
> >> > >> >> really
> >> > >> >>>>> exist?
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Do you prefer Bicardi to Mount Gay? Isn't anyone at least
> >> > >> >> keeping
> >> > >> >>>>> their
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> gas
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> tank in the lazerette?
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Watching and waiting from BR,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Ben
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> >> > >> >> Geoff
> >> > >> >>>> Farrell
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:39
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Thank God... on both counts.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >> > >> >> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Mike.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Welcome back to the list. A while back we had to have a
> >> > >> >>>> separation
> >> > >> >>>>> of
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> sailing from politics. The political people left the list
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > >> >>>>> started
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> their
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> own
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> social network list. The sailors and most of the drunks
> >> > are
> >> > >> >>>>>> still
> >> > >> >>>>> here.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Rummy
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/16/2010 3:07:58 P.M. Eastern
> >> > >> >> Standard
> >> > >> >>>>>> Time,
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> michael.4591 at gmail.com writes:
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> By way of a reintroduction I am Mike Corley, a loyal
> >> > >> >> Rhodes
> >> > >> >>>> owner
> >> > >> >>>>> since
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> 1996. I have not been active on the list in several
> >> > years.
> >> > >> >> It
> >> > >> >> is
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> definitely a lot quieter now than it used to be. Sort of
> >> > >> >> miss
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> barroom
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> mentality of the old list.
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I have owned two Rhodes, the first was a new 96 model I
> >> > >> >> bought
> >> > >> >>>> from
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Stan and then after returning from Europe Stan made me a
> >> > >> >> great
> >> > >> >>>> deal
> >> > >> >>>>> and
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> traded it in on a slightly used and upgraded 99 Rhodes in
> >> > >> >> 2000,
> >> > >> >>>> but
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> is
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> another story. I like to tell people that I liked the
> >> boat
> >> > >> >> so
> >> > >> >>>> much I
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> bought
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> it twice. I still take the boat back to GB in Edenton, NC
> >> > >> >> when
> >> > >> >>>>>> it
> >> > >> >>>>> needs
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> work which is infrequently. Stan and GB is the most
> honest
> >> > >> >>>> business
> >> > >> >>>>> I
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> have
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> ever dealt with and they still do good work!
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I just recently retired from the Army after 30 years of
> >> > >> >> service.
> >> > >> >>>> I
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> retired from Fort Monroe, Va and now live in Smithfield,
> >> > Va
> >> > >> >> at
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> intersection of the Pagan and James Rivers. I keep my
> >> boat
> >> > >> >> at
> >> > >> >>>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>> Old
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Point
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Comfort Marina at Ft Monroe in Hampton, Va which is
> >> about
> >> > >> >> 22
> >> > >> >>>> miles
> >> > >> >>>>> from
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Smithfield. My children are grown now so I primarily
> >> > >> >> singlehand
> >> > >> >>>>> which
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> is
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> easy to do in a Rhodes. I have enjoyed sailing the
> >> > >> >> Southern
> >> > >> >>>>> Chesapeake
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> for
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> the last four years. Previously I have sailed my Rhodes
> >> > >> >> out
> >> > >> >> of
> >> > >> >>>>> Middle
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> River
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> near Baltimore, Newbern, NC on the Neuse river, and
> >> > >> >> Washington
> >> > >> >>>> DC
> >> > >> >>>>> on
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Potomac River. As all of you will agree, the Rhodes is a
> >> > >> >> great
> >> > >> >>>>> costal
> >> > >> >>>>>>>> and
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> inland pocket cruiser!
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Mike Corley
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> S/V Ranger
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> 99 Rhodes
> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Hampton Roads, Va
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> >> > >> >>>> go
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> >> > >> >>>>
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> >> > >> >>>
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> >> > >> >>>
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> >> > >> >> --
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