[Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

Mary Lou Troy mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Sat Nov 20 09:02:23 EST 2010 

That just further reinforces my notion that I don't want an alcohol 
stove or fuel on my boat.

8th grade science teachers must be the coolest folks. Probably have 
to be to survive. An acquaintance of ours who is a very good musician 
would occasionally come to an open mike at the local coffeehouse and 
do a few of those "flashy" science experiments. Then he'd pick up his 
accordion and play a few New England fiddle tunes on it.

Best,
Mary Lou


At 01:05 AM 11/20/2010, you wrote:
>Rummy said " Burning alcohol is a sin"
>
>But it can also be entertaining and educational.  One of my demo experiments
>is to take a 5 gallon water cooler jug and put in about a teaspoon (8ml) of
>methyl alcohol in the jug and shake it up.  The alcohol vaporizes and the
>jug looks empty.  I do this before the kids come in and place a Styrofoam
>cup upside down on the top.  I announce my new burp energy converter
>invention and get a kid to come up and burp in the jug.  I claim that burps
>have huge energy content.  The skeptics want me to prove it. When I ask how
>I can do it, the solution to most any question in 8th grade science is to
>set it on fire.  I make a small hole in the inverted cup and drop a match
>in; the kids expect nothing will happen.  Wrong!  It goes off with a huge
>roar, a 3 foot tongue of blue flame blasts out, and if I have the ratio
>right, I usually knock out a ceiling tile.  Oh yeah, the kids who are always
>leaning back on two legs of their chairs, they fall over. Priceless.
>
>Mad Scientist & sailor
>Chris G
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>R22RumRunner at aol.com
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:24 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin
>
>Mike,
>Burning alcohol is a sin.
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 11/19/2010 8:48:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>
>Chris,
>
>While the unit is protected again spills, it does get  very hot!  I am not
>sure that you can locate it in a safe place while  sailing.  If you wanted
>to
>use it to heat the cabin when not sailing,  be careful to provide enough
>ventilation to remove byproducts of  combustion such as CO and CO2.  At
>5200
>BTU, you should be able to  leave the pop-top and the door open and still
>be
>warm.
>
>I found a  manual for the heater at
>http://www.swego.com/store/pc/catalog/heatmate%205200.pdf.
>
>Rummy,  do you have any experience burning alcohol?
>
>
>Mike
>s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
>Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
>From: "Chris Cowie"   Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM
> > What do we think about using a  portable heater such as the HeatMate 5200
> > on the Rhodes 22?  Does  the pop top enclosure offer enough ventilation
> > to replenish oxygen  used by the alcohol burner or is additional
> > ventilation  required?  While additional ventilation is safer it sort of
> >  defeats the effect of the heater?
> >
> >
> >
> >  http://www.soundingsonline.com/boat-shop/new-gear/247092-heatmate-5200-p
> >  ortable-alcohol-heater
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 4400 MacArthur  Blvd, NW
> > Suite 300
> > Washington, DC  20007
> >  202.342.2711
> > 202.342.2691 fax
> > 202.270.1470  mobile
> >
> >
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> >
> >  cowieassociates.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Leland
> > Sent:  Friday, November 19, 2010 7:59 AM
> > To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in  laz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Firedogs,
> >
> >  Safety first:
> >
> >  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
> >  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
> >
> > Can't remember if  methane is heavier than air.
> >
> >  Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > Stephen Staum  wrote:
> >>
> >> BK,
> >>
> >> I too am awfully  skeptical of gov. programs & rules. However, in my
> >> experience  as a pilot & sailor I have usually found gov. safety
> >>  regulations to be logical and founded in real need based on  accident
> >> experinces. In my opinion, the gas storage venting  requirements make
> >> good sense. An explosion & fire on board are  the most difficult
> >> emergencies a mariner can face. Fatalities are  often the result. Why
> >> would anyone want that risk? Especially on a  Rhodes w lots of vented
> >> storage under the cockpit seats, the  question is a no brainer.
> >>
> >> Just one man's  opinion.
> >>
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> 87 R22, Carol  Lee
> >> Needham, MA
> >>
> >> Sent from my  iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bob  Keller
> >> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>  wrote:
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