[Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

Chris Geankoplis napoli68 at charter.net
Sat Nov 20 12:49:06 EST 2010


Hey Mary Lou,
		Now your friend sounds cool, he can play a musical
instrument, set things on fire and blow them up, a true Renaissance man.
Don't know about the cool part for me. Perhaps fortunate is a better word,
as I don't need to be any more mature than an 8th grader to keep my job.
Now Rummy can be less mature than an 8th grader and keep his job but that is
because he is self employed and his boss is a 7th grader with keys to the
liquor locker.
Chris G

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:02 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

That just further reinforces my notion that I don't want an alcohol 
stove or fuel on my boat.

8th grade science teachers must be the coolest folks. Probably have 
to be to survive. An acquaintance of ours who is a very good musician 
would occasionally come to an open mike at the local coffeehouse and 
do a few of those "flashy" science experiments. Then he'd pick up his 
accordion and play a few New England fiddle tunes on it.

Best,
Mary Lou


At 01:05 AM 11/20/2010, you wrote:
>Rummy said " Burning alcohol is a sin"
>
>But it can also be entertaining and educational.  One of my demo
experiments
>is to take a 5 gallon water cooler jug and put in about a teaspoon (8ml) of
>methyl alcohol in the jug and shake it up.  The alcohol vaporizes and the
>jug looks empty.  I do this before the kids come in and place a Styrofoam
>cup upside down on the top.  I announce my new burp energy converter
>invention and get a kid to come up and burp in the jug.  I claim that burps
>have huge energy content.  The skeptics want me to prove it. When I ask how
>I can do it, the solution to most any question in 8th grade science is to
>set it on fire.  I make a small hole in the inverted cup and drop a match
>in; the kids expect nothing will happen.  Wrong!  It goes off with a huge
>roar, a 3 foot tongue of blue flame blasts out, and if I have the ratio
>right, I usually knock out a ceiling tile.  Oh yeah, the kids who are
always
>leaning back on two legs of their chairs, they fall over. Priceless.
>
>Mad Scientist & sailor
>Chris G
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>R22RumRunner at aol.com
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:24 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin
>
>Mike,
>Burning alcohol is a sin.
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 11/19/2010 8:48:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:
>
>Chris,
>
>While the unit is protected again spills, it does get  very hot!  I am not
>sure that you can locate it in a safe place while  sailing.  If you wanted
>to
>use it to heat the cabin when not sailing,  be careful to provide enough
>ventilation to remove byproducts of  combustion such as CO and CO2.  At
>5200
>BTU, you should be able to  leave the pop-top and the door open and still
>be
>warm.
>
>I found a  manual for the heater at
>http://www.swego.com/store/pc/catalog/heatmate%205200.pdf.
>
>Rummy,  do you have any experience burning alcohol?
>
>
>Mike
>s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
>Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
>From: "Chris Cowie"   Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM
> > What do we think about using a  portable heater such as the HeatMate
5200
> > on the Rhodes 22?  Does  the pop top enclosure offer enough ventilation
> > to replenish oxygen  used by the alcohol burner or is additional
> > ventilation  required?  While additional ventilation is safer it sort of
> >  defeats the effect of the heater?
> >
> >
> >
> >
http://www.soundingsonline.com/boat-shop/new-gear/247092-heatmate-5200-p
> >  ortable-alcohol-heater
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 4400 MacArthur  Blvd, NW
> > Suite 300
> > Washington, DC  20007
> >  202.342.2711
> > 202.342.2691 fax
> > 202.270.1470  mobile
> >
> >
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
> >
> >  cowieassociates.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Leland
> > Sent:  Friday, November 19, 2010 7:59 AM
> > To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in  laz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Firedogs,
> >
> >  Safety first:
> >
> >  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
> >  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
> >
> > Can't remember if  methane is heavier than air.
> >
> >  Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > Stephen Staum  wrote:
> >>
> >> BK,
> >>
> >> I too am awfully  skeptical of gov. programs & rules. However, in my
> >> experience  as a pilot & sailor I have usually found gov. safety
> >>  regulations to be logical and founded in real need based on  accident
> >> experinces. In my opinion, the gas storage venting  requirements make
> >> good sense. An explosion & fire on board are  the most difficult
> >> emergencies a mariner can face. Fatalities are  often the result. Why
> >> would anyone want that risk? Especially on a  Rhodes w lots of vented
> >> storage under the cockpit seats, the  question is a no brainer.
> >>
> >> Just one man's  opinion.
> >>
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> 87 R22, Carol  Lee
> >> Needham, MA
> >>
> >> Sent from my  iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bob  Keller
> >> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>  wrote:
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