[Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 20 11:03:20 EST 2010


What a riot, Chris! I can se how that will appeal to an 8th grade know-it-al!
elle

Beer is good....people are crazy

1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}

--- On Sat, 11/20/10, Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:

From: Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 1:05 AM

Rummy said " Burning alcohol is a sin"

But it can also be entertaining and educational.  One of my demo experiments
is to take a 5 gallon water cooler jug and put in about a teaspoon (8ml) of
methyl alcohol in the jug and shake it up.  The alcohol vaporizes and the
jug looks empty.  I do this before the kids come in and place a Styrofoam
cup upside down on the top.  I announce my new burp energy converter
invention and get a kid to come up and burp in the jug.  I claim that burps
have huge energy content.  The skeptics want me to prove it. When I ask how
I can do it, the solution to most any question in 8th grade science is to
set it on fire.  I make a small hole in the inverted cup and drop a match
in; the kids expect nothing will happen.  Wrong!  It goes off with a huge
roar, a 3 foot tongue of blue flame blasts out, and if I have the ratio
right, I usually knock out a ceiling tile.  Oh yeah, the kids who are always
leaning back on two legs of their chairs, they fall over. Priceless. 

Mad Scientist & sailor
Chris G

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
R22RumRunner at aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:24 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] heater in the cabin

Mike,
Burning alcohol is a sin.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2010 8:48:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mweisner at ebsmed.com writes:

Chris,

While the unit is protected again spills, it does get  very hot!  I am not 
sure that you can locate it in a safe place while  sailing.  If you wanted 
to 
use it to heat the cabin when not sailing,  be careful to provide enough 
ventilation to remove byproducts of  combustion such as CO and CO2.  At 
5200 
BTU, you should be able to  leave the pop-top and the door open and still 
be 
warm.

I found a  manual for the heater at  
http://www.swego.com/store/pc/catalog/heatmate%205200.pdf.

Rummy,  do you have any experience burning alcohol?


Mike
s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY



From: "Chris Cowie"   Friday, November 19, 2010 8:46 AM
> What do we think about using a  portable heater such as the HeatMate 5200
> on the Rhodes 22?  Does  the pop top enclosure offer enough ventilation
> to replenish oxygen  used by the alcohol burner or is additional
> ventilation  required?  While additional ventilation is safer it sort of
>  defeats the effect of the heater?
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>  http://www.soundingsonline.com/boat-shop/new-gear/247092-heatmate-5200-p
>  ortable-alcohol-heater
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>  Christopher P. Cowie
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> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Leland
> Sent:  Friday, November 19, 2010 7:59 AM
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in  laz
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> Firedogs,
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>  Safety first:
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>  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
>  http://www.pro-vents.com/product_vpm.html
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> Can't remember if  methane is heavier than air.
>
>  Lee
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> Stephen Staum  wrote:
>>
>> BK,
>>
>> I too am awfully  skeptical of gov. programs & rules. However, in my
>> experience  as a pilot & sailor I have usually found gov. safety
>>  regulations to be logical and founded in real need based on  accident
>> experinces. In my opinion, the gas storage venting  requirements make
>> good sense. An explosion & fire on board are  the most difficult
>> emergencies a mariner can face. Fatalities are  often the result. Why
>> would anyone want that risk? Especially on a  Rhodes w lots of vented
>> storage under the cockpit seats, the  question is a no brainer.
>>
>> Just one man's  opinion.
>>
>> Stephen Staum
>> 87 R22, Carol  Lee
>> Needham, MA
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>> On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bob  Keller
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