[Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind

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When Stan did a partial refit ('06) on our '94, we upgraded the furling main to the battened version and substituted a 140 genoa for the original 175 - the combination has proven to be a substantial improvement over the original sail plan.  I usually furl / reef the 140 to about a 110 going upwind, except in very light air - the extent of the reef leaves the shape pretty well intact - at least far better than when we reefed the 175 down.   The other factor that plays a part here is the height of the head of the genoa when reefed to a 110- it is a much lower-aspect sail when a 175 is reefed than when a 140 is reefed.  Overall, I much prefer the 140 to the original 175.

Frone Crawford
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-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind


Rick,



A 175% Genny is quite large, upwind sailing can be very difficult to handle in 

high winds, ergo we shorten the sail.  If that is the case, and we effectively 

create a jib, even if it is a mite sloppy when furled, it can operate as a 

self-tacking jib if we have the boat rigged.  If it is self tending it is 

unnecessary to re-route the sheets, just connect the genny clew to the 

'traveler'.  Does that make sense?



Art



-----Original Message-----

>From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>

>Sent: Oct 25, 2010 5:58 PM

>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind

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>Art,

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>I don't get it.  What is" changing from a 175% config to beating upwind?"

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>Rick

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>On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <

>czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:

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>> A few times, a self-tending jib rig has been brought up on the list.  It

>> really is simple to set up, regardless of the size of the genoa.  This would

>> facilitate changing from a 175% config to beating upwind.

>>

>> Art

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>> -----Original Message-----

>> >From: Rhodes22Dave <Rhodes22Dave at gmail.com>

>> >Sent: Oct 24, 2010 11:50 PM

>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org

>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind

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>> >Interesting. I will try this.  I also thought that re-routing the genoa

>> >sheets inside the shrouds would just get the sail caught.  I have never

>> >liked the 175 genoa very much because I can't sail nearly as close to the

>> >wind as any of hundreds of other sailboats on our lake.  I can do a little

>> >better by furling in the genoa to a much smaller exposed sail area--but at

>> a

>> >cost of sail shape with all the furling.  I may get a second R22 and am

>> >thinking of getting a smaller genoa--or adding the self-tending jib.  But

>> >what you suggest might be a solution, at least for long tacks.

>> >Dave

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>> >Ben Cittadino wrote:

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>> >> I had two days in a row on Sandy Hook Bay in NJ this weekend, and I want

>> >> to report that I had a pleasing experience by "finally" re-routing the

>> >> Jib (175 Genny) sheets inside the outer shrouds to try for better upwind

>> >> sailing. I have to say that I didn't expect much difference, but I was

>> >> delighted to get inside 45 degrees at last. I obviously didn't let the

>> >> Genny out to the full 175, but at 100 we flew along and I felt like I

>> >> could make real headway upwind. I had delayed trying the new route for

>> >> the sheets because I thought the sail would get all hung up in the

>> >> shrouds, but it's become no big deal. Try it, you'll like it.

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>> >> BenCittadino

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>> >> S/V Susan Kay ('93 recycled '08)

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