[Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind

[Ronald Lipton]

We had a similar refit, with a 150 rather than a 140.  I am more comfortable with the new
sail plan.  We also have a UPS sail fo days with very light winds.

Ron


On 10/26/10 5:37 AM, fcrawford0707 at aol.com wrote:
> When Stan did a partial refit ('06) on our '94, we upgraded the furling main to the battened version and substituted a 140 genoa for the original 175 - the combination has proven to be a substantial improvement over the original sail plan.  I usually furl / reef the 140 to about a 110 going upwind, except in very light air - the extent of the reef leaves the shape pretty well intact - at least far better than when we reefed the 175 down.   The other factor that plays a part here is the height of the head of the genoa when reefed to a 110- it is a much lower-aspect sail when a 175 is reefed than when a 140 is reefed.  Overall, I much prefer the 140 to the original 175.
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> Frone Crawford
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur H. Czerwonky<czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 8:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
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> A 175% Genny is quite large, upwind sailing can be very difficult to handle in
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> high winds, ergo we shorten the sail.  If that is the case, and we effectively
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> create a jib, even if it is a mite sloppy when furled, it can operate as a
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> self-tacking jib if we have the boat rigged.  If it is self tending it is
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> unnecessary to re-route the sheets, just connect the genny clew to the
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> 'traveler'.  Does that make sense?
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>> From: Rick<sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Oct 25, 2010 5:58 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
>> Art,
>> I don't get it.  What is" changing from a 175% config to beating upwind?"
>> Rick
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky<
>> czerwonky at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>> A few times, a self-tending jib rig has been brought up on the list.  It
>>> really is simple to set up, regardless of the size of the genoa.  This would
>>> facilitate changing from a 175% config to beating upwind.
>>> Art
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22Dave<Rhodes22Dave at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Oct 24, 2010 11:50 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing Upwind
>>>> Interesting. I will try this.  I also thought that re-routing the genoa
>>>> sheets inside the shrouds would just get the sail caught.  I have never
>>>> liked the 175 genoa very much because I can't sail nearly as close to the
>>>> wind as any of hundreds of other sailboats on our lake.  I can do a little
>>>> better by furling in the genoa to a much smaller exposed sail area--but at
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>>>> cost of sail shape with all the furling.  I may get a second R22 and am
>>>> thinking of getting a smaller genoa--or adding the self-tending jib.  But
>>>> what you suggest might be a solution, at least for long tacks.
>>>> Dave
>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>> I had two days in a row on Sandy Hook Bay in NJ this weekend, and I want
>>>>> to report that I had a pleasing experience by "finally" re-routing the
>>>>> Jib (175 Genny) sheets inside the outer shrouds to try for better upwind
>>>>> sailing. I have to say that I didn't expect much difference, but I was
>>>>> delighted to get inside 45 degrees at last. I obviously didn't let the
>>>>> Genny out to the full 175, but at 100 we flew along and I felt like I
>>>>> could make real headway upwind. I had delayed trying the new route for
>>>>> the sheets because I thought the sail would get all hung up in the
>>>>> shrouds, but it's become no big deal. Try it, you'll like it.
>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>> S/V Susan Kay ('93 recycled '08)
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