[Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
Pat & Mary Ann
pmadevig at gra.midco.net
Mon Sep 27 22:01:29 EDT 2010
Art,
I have the website from Mike for the anodization process.
Pat.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
> Pat,
>
> Better yet, maybe they can supply the plate to shape out of annodized. I
> had a mast done this Spring, and they charged a minimum to cover setup
> costs and make a little money, which they did indeed accomplish!
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>Sent: Sep 26, 2010 10:46 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>>
>>Pat,
>>
>>If you want the plate to last, have it "clear anodized"
>>(http://www.superiormetals.us/anodized-aluminum-applications-marine.htm .)
>>If Stan can't have it done, just about any machine shop can.
>>
>>Anodizers close to Maple Lake, MN: http://tinyurl.com/2f6y4w5
>> Anodize Inc
>> 1102 1st St NE, Buffalo, MN 55313-2528
>> (763) 682-0400
>>
>>Mike
>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>From: "Pat & Mary Ann" Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:31 PM
>>> Thanks for the suggestion Rummy. I sail on a fresh water late in
>>> Minnesota
>>> called Maple Lake. I'll probably coat the aluminum before I install it.
>>> Pat.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you are going to use aluminum, remember that salt water will attack
>>>> it
>>>> very quickly. I would give it several coats of clear lacquer or some
>>>> other
>>>> coating to protect it from corrosion. The corrosion won't affect it's
>>>> strength for many years, it's just a visual thing.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 9/26/2010 12:46:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> pmadevig at gra.midco.net writes:
>>>>
>>>> Stan suggested I use aluminum for the replacement of the fractured
>>>> stern
>>>> plate, so that's what I'll use. Should be ready by spring.
>>>> Pat----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I recently ordered some UHMW poly ethylene from Norva Plastics. I told
>>>> them
>>>>> what I needed, what it was going to be used for and they cut the
>>>>> piece
>>>>> to
>>>>> size and shipped it to me very quickly and at a reasonable price.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 8:13:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> sprocket80 at mail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat,
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is not a warranty repair by GB and you are going to fix it
>>>>> yourself, I would recommend NorVa Plastics in Norfolk, Virginia.
>>>>> http://www.norvaplastics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> You can send them a sketch, the old part, or if you are really
>>>>> computer
>>>>> savvy, a CAD file. The will make the part from the material of your
>>>>> choosing
>>>>> (UHMWPE?) and ship it to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pat & Mary Ann <pmadevig at gra.midco.net>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:56 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> Thanks for the thoughtful message. I'm planing to have the problem
>>>> plate
>>>>> replicated over the winter so it's ready to go in the spring.
>>>>> Pat.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fractured stern plate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pat,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an engineer, the problem appears to be caused by one (or more)
>>>>> problems
>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>> 1. Motor weight exceeds design specification
>>>>>> 2. Live load (motor, waves, wind, etc.) exceeds design
>>>>> specification
>>>>>> 3. Improper structural material formulation or specification
>>>>>> 4. Damage or abuse (backed into fixed object, collision, etc.
>>>>>> 5. Storm damage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I must assume that Stan built the motor lift and provided the
>>>>>> engine,
>>>>>> one must assume that #1 is out. As good as Stan is, engineers do
>>>> revise
>>>>>> their designs to correct "oversights." It is entirely possible
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 4-cycle electric start engine weights continue to increase, the
>>>>>> design
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the lift may need to be redesigned (#1, #2 & #3.) An aluminum
>>>>>> plate
>>>>> would
>>>>>> seem to indicate that such a process has already been started at
>>>>>> GBI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If designed properly, you should not be capable of damaging the
>>>>>> lift
>>>> by
>>>>>> having "raised the Yamaha too high." IMHO, the only time that you
>>>> could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> at fault would be in cases like #4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it safe to sail? Well, make sure that your safety chain is in
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> shape
>>>>>> and of the correct length so that you do not lose the motor should
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> plate
>>>>>> fail. You could also have difficulty raising or lowering the motor
>>>>>> if
>>>>> the
>>>>>> damage affects the mechanism. Also, be careful since the cracked
>>>>> material
>>>>>> can be very sharp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Pat & Mary Ann" Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:07 PM
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> This summer I notied a progresse, increasing series of cracks in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> stern
>>>>>>> plate. I asked Stan about it and he thought it would be safe to
>>>>>>> sail
>>>>> til
>>>>>>> Labor Day, then pull the plate and replace it with an aluminum
>>>> replica.
>>>>>>> Has anyone had a similar problem? I wonder if it is because I
>>>>>>> raised
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Yamaha too high. Any other suggestions for repair or
>>>>>>> replacement?
>>>>>>> Pat Devig
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