[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

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Sun Aug 19 10:27:58 EDT 2012


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s/v <-no name -> ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY



-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:52 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2954, Issue 1

Ken,

I have a table socket also is in bad shape.
Does anybody know where to buy them?
Thanks!
Cary
86- Whisper
Radford,VA
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would never have thought of the table socket.
>
> Thanks, Stephen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ken Bates <btskend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stephan
> > I got a lot in through the table leg socket in the cocpit . The die 
> > casting corroded and cracked rain soaked the foam and wound up in 
> > the bilge Ken (if I could splell!)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:00 PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> > wrote:
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> >> Today's Topics:
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> >>  1. Re: V Berth redo (Stephen Staum)  2. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal 
> >> Help (Stephen Staum)  3. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help 
> >> (R22RumRunner at aol.com)  4. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen 
> >> Staum)  5. Re: Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Lowe, Rob)  6. Re: 
> >> Centerboard Cap Seal Help (Stephen Staum)  7. Re: Centerboard Cap 
> >> Seal Help (Michael D. Weisner)
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:50:01 -0400
> >> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <888CF65BF2264EEC8C6A96FA9B3146FF at DadsLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>   reply-type=original
> >>
> >> My old '87 did not have pegboard, just carpet and it looked good.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bill Pauer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:41 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] V Berth redo
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen a v berth without the pegboard?  I am redoing the 
> >> interior of our Rhodes and considering just running carpet up the 
> >> sides of v berth.  Any thoughts?
> >> Thanks
> >> Bill
> >> __________________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:57:38 -0400
> >> From: "Stephen Staum" <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <4CF8D92A4B104786A60FF2C2318D00A3 at DadsLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>   reply-type=original
> >>
> >> My '83 R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and 
> >> I suspect the problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling 
> >> the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a 
> >> detailed, step by step instruction list for removing the cap and 
> >> replacing the seal?  Looking at it, I am not even sure how to get 
> >> to it.  I assume that the step has to be removed first.
> >> The only pics I could find in the archives are of the cap already 
> >> removed.
> >> Anyone have additional pictures of the project?  Or any theories on 
> >> how lots of water is getting into the bilge?  This boat has no 
> >> hatches that open.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >> Needham, MA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
> >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Message-ID: <862d9.61fc1c7b.3d5f8fcd at aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >>
> >> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
> >> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
> >> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides during 
> >> Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but I have 
> >> seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I would 
> >> recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  the entry 
> >> point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the water  
> >> rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the 
> >> problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take her out for 
> >> a ride and see if you can  get water to enter while motoring 
> >> around. Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding the cap 
> >> together can be tightened a little bit.
> >> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then 
> >> the associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend 
> >> using any gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is 
> >> made from EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to 
> >> be replaced. It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>
> >> Rummy
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring and 
> >> I suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling 
> >> the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a 
> >> detailed, step by step instruction
> >> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it,
> >> I am not
> >> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
> >> removed first.
> >> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already 
> >> removed.
> >> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories 
> >> on how lots of water is getting into  the bilge? This boat has no 
> >> hatches that open.
> >>
> >> Thanks in  advance,
> >> Stephen Staum
> >> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >> Needham,  MA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:38:53 -0400
> >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <EDFFF193-3283-40DA-9C6B-CF448E8584DF at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;
> >> delsp=yes
> >>
> >> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing 
> >> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water. 
> >> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back. 
> >> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water 
> >> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday 
> >> nite/ Wed morning.
> >> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I 
> >> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap 
> >> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what 
> >> it looks like this A.M.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
> >>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
> >>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides 
> >>> during Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but 
> >>> I have seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I 
> >>> would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  the 
> >>> entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the 
> >>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that 
> >>> isn't the problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take 
> >>> her out for a ride and see if you can  get water to enter while 
> >>> motoring around. Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding 
> >>> the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
> >>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then 
> >>> the associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend 
> >>> using any gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket 
> >>> is made from EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs 
> >>> to be replaced. It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring 
> >>> and I suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am 
> >>> pulling the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a 
> >>> detailed, step by step instruction
> >>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
> >>> am not
> >>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
> >>> removed first.
> >>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already 
> >>> removed.
> >>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories 
> >>> on how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no 
> >>> hatches that open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>> Stephen Staum
> >>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>> Needham,  MA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:59:47 -0400
> >> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> <20DE79EA3783484A94EF626CFBEB95B34A002040AB at rivendell.cc.w2k.vt.edu
> >> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Stephen,
> >> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit drain 
> >> was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight 
> >> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the 
> >> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from 
> >> the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a 
> >> look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good 
> >> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose 
> >> clamps.  Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would 
> >> look at those before messing with the cap.  And how about the 
> >> through hull for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through 
> >> that? - rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
> >> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>
> >> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing 
> >> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water 
> >> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday 
> >> nite/ Wed morning.
> >> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I 
> >> don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap 
> >> gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know what 
> >> it looks like this A.M.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
> >>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
> >>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides 
> >>> during Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but 
> >>> I have seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I 
> >>> would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  the 
> >>> entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in the 
> >>> water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if that 
> >>> isn't the problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, take 
> >>> her out for a ride and see if you can get water to enter while 
> >>> motoring around. Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding 
> >>> the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
> >>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then 
> >>> the associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend 
> >>> using any gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket 
> >>> is made from EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to
be replaced.
> >>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring 
> >>> and I suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am 
> >>> pulling the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have a 
> >>> detailed, step by step instruction
> >>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at it, I
> >>> am not
> >>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
> >>> removed first.
> >>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap already 
> >>> removed.
> >>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories 
> >>> on how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has no 
> >>> hatches that open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>> Stephen Staum
> >>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>> Needham,  MA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >> __________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:53:12 -0400
> >> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Message-ID: <68CB6650-75FE-41B2-B034-C90F8439496F at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;
> >> delsp=yes
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I 
> >> will recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not 
> >> - which points to the cap I think.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit 
> >>> drain was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight 
> >>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the 
> >>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from 
> >>> the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a 
> >>> look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good 
> >>> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose
clamps.
> >>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at 
> >>> those before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull 
> >>> for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
> >>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>>
> >>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing 
> >>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water 
> >>> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday 
> >>> nite/ Wed morning.
> >>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, 
> >>> I don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed 
> >>> cap gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know 
> >>> what it looks like this A.M.
> >>>
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
> >>>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
> >>>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides 
> >>>> during Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but 
> >>>> I have seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I 
> >>>> would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  
> >>>> the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in 
> >>>> the water  rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if 
> >>>> that isn't the problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, 
> >>>> take her out for a ride and see if you can get water to enter 
> >>>> while motoring around. Also, check to see if any of the bolts  
> >>>> holding the cap together can be tightened a little bit.
> >>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then 
> >>>> the associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend 
> >>>> using any gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket 
> >>>> is made from EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs 
> >>>> to be replaced.
> >>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring 
> >>>> and I suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am 
> >>>> pulling the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have 
> >>>> a detailed, step by step instruction
> >>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at
> >>>> it, I
> >>>> am not
> >>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
> >>>> removed first.
> >>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap 
> >>>> already removed.
> >>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories 
> >>>> on how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has 
> >>>> no hatches that open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>>> Stephen Staum
> >>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>>> Needham,  MA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To  subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list  Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>>> archives go to  http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>>
> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>>> __________________________________________________
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>>
> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and 
> >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list 
> >>> __________________________________________________
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> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:58:28 -0400
> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> >> The hose is not usually the problem.  It is the through hull 
> >> fitting.  The gasket for the fitting on the '83 is probably long 
> >> gone.  Be careful about tightening the nylon nut on the fitting as 
> >> it may fracture unexpectedly (very bad if in the water) and it may 
> >> be attempting to compress the fiberglass hull if there is little or 
> >> no gasket material remaining.  You will need to haul to replace and 
> >> rebed the fitting.
> >>
> >> The cockpit drain through hull fitting is usually out of the water 
> >> when the boat is at anchor due to the shape of the hull.  It 
> >> generally is pushed dow by weight in the stern (laz contents, 
> >> batteries, engine or people) or by heavy seas.  The leak may be 
> >> difficult to observe and water from the laz will usually flow 
> >> forward, filling the cabin to the same level as the drain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v <- NoName -> ('91)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> >> Staum
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought as well. I 
> >> will recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not 
> >> - which points to the cap I think.
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on board your cockpit 
> >>> drain was under water.  No problem with that, depending on weight 
> >>> distribution on your boat.  With four people on my boat and the 
> >>> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at water level.
> >>> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the hose that goes from 
> >>> the cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open the laz and take a 
> >>> look at the hose.  Get your head down in there and take a good 
> >>> look. The hose looks like a radiator hose and is held on by hose
clamps.
> >>> Perhaps the hose is craked or clamps are loose. I would look at 
> >>> those before messing with the cap.  And how about the through hull 
> >>> for the sink drain?  Any way water can come in through that? - rob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
> >>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help
> >>>
> >>> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was sailing 
> >>> Tuesday w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under water.
> >>> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette & motored back.
> >>> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed. night to find water 
> >>> up to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had heavy rains Tuesday 
> >>> nite/ Wed morning.
> >>> Last night bilge only 1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, 
> >>> I don't see where all the water came from. Also dryed the exposed 
> >>> cap gasket & found it wet a short time later. I will let you know 
> >>> what it looks like this A.M.
> >>>
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out the bilge and 
> >>>> make sure that it really is the cap that is leaking. We have seen 
> >>>> recently that boats on a  mooring have taken some wild rides 
> >>>> during Eastern storms. The cap is the obvious point of entry, but 
> >>>> I have seen over the years that this isn't always the case. I 
> >>>> would recommend drying it out and seeing if you can determine  
> >>>> the entry point. It's a whole lot easier to find a leak while in 
> >>>> the water rather than a tear down and reinstalling the cap if 
> >>>> that isn't the problem. If  no water enters while on the mooring, 
> >>>> take her out for a ride and see if you can  get water to enter 
> >>>> while motoring around.
> >>>> Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together 
> >>>> can be tightened a little bit.
> >>>> To remove the cap will require  the removal of the step and then 
> >>>> the associated flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend 
> >>>> using any gasket sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket 
> >>>> is made from EPDM rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs 
> >>>> to be replaced.
> >>>> It can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
> >>>> Good luck and keep us posted on your results.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >>>> snstaum at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking on water on its mooring 
> >>>> and I suspect the  problem is the centerboard cap seal.  I am 
> >>>> pulling the boat today for further inspection.  Does anyone have 
> >>>> a detailed, step by step instruction
> >>>> list for removing the cap and replacing the seal?   Looking at
> >>>> it, I
> >>>> am not
> >>>> even sure how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
> >>>> removed first.
> >>>> The only pics I could find in the  archives are of the cap 
> >>>> already removed.
> >>>> Anyone have additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories 
> >>>> on how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This boat has 
> >>>> no hatches that open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in  advance,
> >>>> Stephen Staum
> >>>> '83 R22, Carol Lee 2
> >>>> Needham,  MA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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