[Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help

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Sat Aug 18 08:05:09 EDT 2012


Bob,
Making the lazerette water tight isn't necessary. When in the water, the  
R22 is naturally bow heavy and very little if any water will enter it.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2012 12:21:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu writes:

For what  it's worth, my new-to-me '84 was uncovered (on the hard) in a 
rain  storm.....port & stbd cockpit drains were clogged and aft seating flooded 
 the Laz....water came into soak carpet inside the companion way.
I checked  out the connection between hull & cockpit (all was good).
I then  unclogged the port & stbd cockpit drains.
Trailered the R22 up a 10%  incline...let gravity drain to Laz....& bailed 
till dry.
I apparently  need to repair the water tight integrity of my laz. (& keep 
cockpit drains  unclogged!!)
Hope this helps,
Bob



-----Original  Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org  
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D.  Weisner
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:58 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email  List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal Help

The  hose is not usually the problem.  It is the through hull fitting.   
The gasket for the fitting on the '83 is probably long gone.  Be careful  
about tightening the nylon nut on the fitting as it may fracture unexpectedly  
(very bad if in the water) and it may be attempting to compress the 
fiberglass  hull if there is little or no gasket material remaining.  You will need  
to haul to replace and rebed the fitting.

The cockpit drain through  hull fitting is usually out of the water when 
the boat is at anchor due to the  shape of the hull.  It generally is pushed 
dow by weight in the stern  (laz contents, batteries, engine or people) or by 
heavy seas.  The leak  may be difficult to observe and water from the laz 
will usually flow forward,  filling the cabin to the same level as the drain.


Mike
s/v <-  NoName -> ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original  Message-----
From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Stephen Staum
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 AM
To:  The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal  Help

Rob,

I did check the drain hose as that was my 1st thought  as well. I will 
recheck with a light. Laz was dry last 2 days - bilge was not  - which points to 
the cap I think.

Stephen

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On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:59 AM, "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>  wrote:

> Stephen,
> If I read this correctly, with 4 people on  board your cockpit drain 
> was under water.  No problem with that,  depending on weight 
> distribution on your boat.  With four people  on my boat and the
> 9.9hp motor, the top of my cockpit drain will be at  water level.   
> But with water in the laz I'm suspecting the  hose that goes from the 
> cockpit drain to the through hull.  Open  the laz and take a look at 
> the hose.  Get your head down in  there and take a good look. The
> hose looks like a radiator hose and is  held on by hose clamps.   
> Perhaps the hose is craked or  clamps are loose. I would look at those 
> before messing with the  cap.  And how about the through hull for the 
> sink drain?   Any way water can come in through that? - rob
>
>
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org  [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen  Staum
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:39 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22  Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Centerboard Cap Seal  Help
>
> Looks like previous owner used lots of sealant. I was  sailing Tuesday 
> w 4 on board & found cockpit drain slipping under  water.
> Promptly pumped lots of water out of the lazerette &  motored back.  
> Pumped the bilge to almost dry. Returned Wed.  night to find water up 
> to carpet in cabin. Pumped almost dry (had  heavy rains Tuesday nite/ 
> Wed morning.
> Last night bilge only  1/2 full (no rain). But w no opening ports, I 
> don't see where all the  water came from. Also dryed the exposed cap 
> gasket & found it wet  a short time later. I will let you know what it 
> looks like this  A.M.
>
> Stephen
>
> Sent from my  iPhone
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:15 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>
>> Prior to pulling the boat you might want to dry out  the bilge and 
>> make sure that it really is the cap that is  leaking. We have seen 
>> recently that boats on a  mooring have  taken some wild rides during 
>> Eastern storms. The cap is the  obvious point of entry, but I have 
>> seen over the years that this  isn't always the case. I would 
>> recommend drying it out and seeing  if you can determine  the entry 
>> point. It's a whole lot  easier to find a leak while in the water 
>> rather than a tear down  and reinstalling the cap if that isn't the 
>> problem. If  no  water enters while on the mooring, take her out for a 
>> ride and  see if you can  get water to enter while motoring around.
>>  Also, check to see if any of the bolts  holding the cap together can  
>> be tightened a little bit.
>> To remove the cap will  require  the removal of the step and then the 
>> associated  flooring around the cap. Stan doesn't recommend using any 
>> gasket  sealer when reinstalling the gasket. The gasket is made from 
>> EPDM  rubber which lasts a long time and rarely needs to be replaced.
>> It  can be cleaned with gasoline or other solvents.
>> Good luck and keep  us posted on your results.
>>
>>  Rummy
>>
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>> In a message dated 8/17/2012 6:57:37  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> snstaum at gmail.com  writes:
>>
>> My '83  R22. the Carol Lee 2, is taking  on water on its mooring and I 
>> suspect the  problem is the  centerboard cap seal.  I am pulling the 
>> boat today for  further inspection.  Does anyone have a detailed, step 
>> by  step instruction
>> list for removing the cap and replacing the  seal?   Looking at it, I
>> am not
>> even sure  how to get to it.  I assume that  the step has to be 
>>  removed first.
>> The only pics I could find in the  archives  are of the cap already 
>> removed.
>> Anyone have  additional pictures  of the project?  Or any theories on  
>> how lots of water is getting into  the bilge?  This  boat has no 
>> hatches that open.
>>
>> Thanks  in  advance,
>> Stephen Staum
>> '83 R22, Carol Lee  2
>> Needham,   MA
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