[Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?

[Dan Kellogg]

This is how we handle a frozen lake around here

Dan
Loveland Colorado

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Dennis
The wind was on the beam, we didnt care where we went Just how far over we
could get and i would gues that we got The waterline just into the flair of
the hull and no further. The "rail"
Stayed about 8 inches above the water. What a feeling of Power you get at
this point ,wind in the rigging the rushing water You are only doing 7 knots
but it seems like you are flying My lake is hard and we have about a foot of
lake effect snow And its about 10* Rain on monday!!!
Ken
SV Big Blew

DennisF wrote:
> 
> 
> Ken,
> Great information for me.  Did you get the rail to the waterline?  
> Were you headed into the wind or was the wind on your beam?  It's 
> snowing in Maine and real cold 11 F. The lake is still not frozen the 
> wind keeps the ice from forming on the big basin where we live.  Maybe 
> it will freeze if it stays cold and it is calm for 2-3 days.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis
> 
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> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KenBates
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:24 AM
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> 
> 
> Hi John
> I too am new to sailing. I bought my rhodes 2 years ago and was 
> suprised at how tippy it seemed.
> I live on a inland lake in michigan with gusty and varriable wind, the 
> only thing constant about the wind is change.I was quite concerned 
> when a gust would hit and the heel angle increased rapidly. i never 
> went out if the gusts wer over 17 mph (good local private weather 
> station) and then so reefed that we didnt go very fast.
> Late last summer my son, after listening to all this "wind concen" and 
> the theoretical "they say she wont go over" comvinced me to remove 
> anything loose from the cabin and go out to attempt to bury the rail.
> with empty water tank in our 86 and a 22 knt wind, pretty steady for 
> michigan, we went out reefed. after a while we read our speed with an 
> i phone app my son Keith has at 3 knots. "More sail dad" then 5 knots 
> and a lot of heel but only about 15 degrees "more sail dad", we wound 
> up at 7 knts on his app and as we approached the rail i had to steer 
> away from the wind as hard as i could to keep her from rounding up the 
> my sun came partly down from the rail where he had been perched and 
> into the wind she went, no stopping her we did this repeatedly . with 
> no significant waves (smallish lake) 22 knts 180 genny all out we 
> couldent get our feet wet no matter how hard we tried.I am now MUCH 
> more comfortable with a bit of heel you gotta try it!
> Ken
> SV Big Blew (formerly one of the many serenities)
>  
> 
> John Shulick wrote:
>> 
>> Happy new year to all,
>> 
>>  I would like to get some input from the forum about Rhodes 22 
>> heeling characteristics. As the Rhodes is the only boat I've ever 
>> sailed on I have no point of reference about how "stiff " the boat 
>> should be when the wind approaches 10knts. The specs say a Rhodes has 
>> ~ 700 lbs ballast. I know the centerboard is 100 lbs because I've 
>> weighed it. The shoal keel is encapsulated concrete. Being and older 
>> boat the extra ballast in my Rhodes is concrete and I just don't see 
>> 600lbs or so of it. I'm considering adding 2  100 lb lead bars, one 
>> on each side bolted into the bottom of the keel. The lead will be 
>> appropriately sealed for environmental concerns. Any and all comments 
>> are welcome.
>> 
>> John S
>> 
>> PS:  Rummys mountain picts are cool.
>> 
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