[Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?

Rob Granger rgranger at sbc.edu
Mon Jan 23 10:50:36 EST 2012


Good point about changing a head sail.  After the first time I tried to
drop my genoa on a pitching bow... getting beat to s**t with the lines... I
installed a jib down haul.   Best mod I've every made.  Let me know how you
like your roller furler.  The Rhodes I purchased has a roller furler system
but I have not taken a good look at it yet.

r

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Rob,
> I believe I am one of the few that had a hank on jib. I say "had", since
> it went with the old boat when I upgrade to my newer Rhodes.  I only had
> the single head sail, I believe it was a 175.  In high winds I wish I had
> the ability to furl the jib, the 175 certainly over powered the boat.  I've
> tried sailing with main only during high winds but you (well, I did anyway)
> need the jib to be able to complete a tack.  I ended up gybing to tack with
> only the main.  A smaller headsail would have helped, but at the same time
> I couldn't see myself changing headsails.  That's why I wanted (and got)
> the furling jib and IMF, so I could adjust sail area as needed. - Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rob Granger
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:11 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?
>
> Wow...  this is disappointing to read...
>
> Is it because of the relatively large amount of freeboard the Rhodes has?
> I've taken my MacGregor V22 out in 20+mph winds (with gusts to 30) on
> several occasions.  I spent a day sailing across the Albemarle with a
> steady 25mph And yes..... I've had people question the actual wind strength
> so I checked it with the weather records for my areas.  When the winds
> picks up..I hank on my small jib (25%)  and put two reefs in the main.  She
> punches right through.  I try to keep her relatively flat and we pick up
> speed....once she is moving forward I take in on the main sheet just a bit
> we just slice on through the chop ... it is magic.  The Mac is
> significantly smaller boat than the Rhodes.  It has a foot less beam, about
> 6" less free board an weighs about half of what the Rhode weights.  The
> interior accommodations are frankly Spartan but she sails really well....
> and fast... and have even gotten her to plane on a run in winds like
> that.....
>
> So let me ask you Rhodies something.  How many of you use the roller
> furled head sail and how many of you have hanked on head sails?  I'm hoping
> the performance deficiencies you are describing here are a result of the
> fact that most of you try to roller REEF your head sail and have not
> actually sailed your Rhodes with a properly sized and properly drafting
> head sail in stronger winds.
>
> I hope this does not sound condescending.  I really don't mean it that way.
> Email can sometime read really badly and I don't consider myself a sailing
> expert or anything like that...I really just want some performance data for
> the Rhodes for how I plan to set mine up... I'll be using hanked on head
> sails and reef points in my main.
>
>
> So for those of you who hank on your head sails... can you get the Rhodes
> to perform well in 25 - 30 mph wind with a smaller head sail and a deeply
> reefed main? (The boom on a Mac can be rolled so I can reef the main as
> much or as little as I want -- but I prefer reef points).
>
>  I'm in the middle of a Rhodes restoration and would really like to
> understand what I'm going to have when I'm done.
>
> When I purchased my Mac (three seasons ago) it came with three different
> head sails (25%), (75%), (130%).  It also came with a light air main in
> addition to the working main....  And sailing with this boat's compliment
> of sails is when I fully came to appreciate the importance of a balanced
> rig.  So I'm no longer envious of my roller furled brothers.
>
> I hope to repeat this experience with the Rhodes.  So if please share if
> you got a story.
>
> Fair winds,
>
> The other Rob
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > 20-30 knot winds are too much wind for the Rhodes.
> >
> > Stan says you can't make headway after 28 knots which is probably
> > accurate since I struggle after 20.
> >
> > The more I sail the more picky I am about conditions.  I usually don't
> > go out if the winds are more than 15 knots.  Where I sail the chop is
> > usually more of a problem than the wind when it gets too breezy.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Dr. Robert Granger
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Sweet Briar College
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