[Rhodes22-list] Ballast ?

[Goodness]

Rob:  i am in the same boat (pun intended) as you.  I am fixing up a nice rhodes with a rotten interior due to a busted hatch.  The mast was bent so i have to replace it.  I am no longer wanting to get the in mast furling main.  I want a regular main with two or three reef points.  When you jiffy reef you lower your center of effort and reduce heeling moment just perfect.  When you roll up the main to the mast the center. Of effort moves forward not down.  This causes lee helm.  Which is a common complaint here. Stan needs a roller furling boom.
The same goes for the head sail.  Rolling moves the center of effort forward and up.  Perhaps i will rig two forestays one for hanks or i have seen sleeved storm jibs that wrap over a furled headsail.
I think we are ok, but the rig needs some modification.  IMF has limitations.  The buzz term for what i am going to build seems to be a "rhodes continental rig".


On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Rob Granger <rgranger at sbc.edu> wrote:

> Wow...  this is disappointing to read...
> 
> Is it because of the relatively large amount of freeboard the Rhodes has?
> I've taken my MacGregor V22 out in 20+mph winds (with gusts to 30) on
> several occasions.  I spent a day sailing across the Albemarle with a
> steady 25mph And yes..... I've had people question the actual wind strength
> so I checked it with the weather records for my areas.  When the winds
> picks up..I hank on my small jib (25%)  and put two reefs in the main.  She
> punches right through.  I try to keep her relatively flat and we pick up
> speed....once she is moving forward I take in on the main sheet just a bit
> we just slice on through the chop ... it is magic.  The Mac is
> significantly smaller boat than the Rhodes.  It has a foot less beam, about
> 6" less free board an weighs about half of what the Rhode weights.  The
> interior accommodations are frankly Spartan but she sails really well....
> and fast... and have even gotten her to plane on a run in winds like
> that.....
> 
> So let me ask you Rhodies something.  How many of you use the roller furled
> head sail and how many of you have hanked on head sails?  I'm hoping the
> performance deficiencies you are describing here are a result of the fact
> that most of you try to roller REEF your head sail and have not actually
> sailed your Rhodes with a properly sized and properly drafting head sail in
> stronger winds.
> 
> I hope this does not sound condescending.  I really don't mean it that way.
> Email can sometime read really badly and I don't consider myself a sailing
> expert or anything like that...I really just want some performance data for
> the Rhodes for how I plan to set mine up... I'll be using hanked on head
> sails and reef points in my main.
> 
> 
> So for those of you who hank on your head sails... can you get the Rhodes
> to perform well in 25 - 30 mph wind with a smaller head sail and a deeply
> reefed main? (The boom on a Mac can be rolled so I can reef the main as
> much or as little as I want -- but I prefer reef points).
> 
> I'm in the middle of a Rhodes restoration and would really like to
> understand what I'm going to have when I'm done.
> 
> When I purchased my Mac (three seasons ago) it came with three different
> head sails (25%), (75%), (130%).  It also came with a light air main in
> addition to the working main....  And sailing with this boat's compliment
> of sails is when I fully came to appreciate the importance of a balanced
> rig.  So I'm no longer envious of my roller furled brothers.
> 
> I hope to repeat this experience with the Rhodes.  So if please share if
> you got a story.
> 
> Fair winds,
> 
> The other Rob
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Dennis,
>> 
>> 20-30 knot winds are too much wind for the Rhodes.
>> 
>> Stan says you can't make headway after 28 knots which is probably accurate
>> since I struggle after 20.
>> 
>> The more I sail the more picky I am about conditions.  I usually don't go
>> out if the winds are more than 15 knots.  Where I sail the chop is usually
>> more of a problem than the wind when it gets too breezy.
>> 
>> Lee
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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