[Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Fri Jul 13 16:22:36 EDT 2012 

My rule of thumb is to use 3M 4200 for everything EXCEPT the real important
stuff below the waterline, for which I use 3M 5200.  I figure that the
lifespan of a new nylon thru hull fitting, a quality vinyl hose and two
stainless clamps should be at least 25 years, so the more permanent 5200 is
fine.  Let the next owner worry about removal, at least it will never leak
due to shrinkage or be damaged by salt water.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
s/v <- no name -> ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Goodness
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)

My cockpit drain fitting was bedded in goopy silicone adhesive.  Its ugly
and excessive.  This isnt standard is it?  I should replace with 3m 5200
shouldnt i?



On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:42 PM, "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> At one time I had water leaking in at the thru hull fitting for the 
> cockpit drain on my '81.  The level in the laz never rose more than an 
> inch or two when on the hook.  When sailing, quite a bit more water 
> was found in the laz at the end of the day.  I found that the gasket 
> around the fitting had disintegrated over time (30 years).
> 
> I snugged the nut to the bottom of the laz BY HAND, not wanting to 
> fracture the fiberglass around the fitting nor the 30 year-old nylon 
> fitting.  I was able to complete the season without a tremendous amount of
water in the laz.
> During the winter layup I replaced the thru hull fitting, the hose and 
> the two clamps, rebedding both fittings.  Never had another problem.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> s/v <- no name -> ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> 
> Joe,
> There will be some water visible in the cockpit drain when viewed from 
> the cockpit.  I'm with Mary Lou in that if you are getting water into 
> the boat with no rain, wind, or heeling; there are two likely places.  
> The centerboard housing, which is unlikely if you haven't taken it 
> apart lately, and the cockpit drain.  Take a real close look at the 
> hose and thru hull of the cockpit drain hose which you get to through 
> the laz.  The hose looks like radiation hose with a couple of hose 
> clamps on it.  A loose clamp or a worn hose may be an issue.  Good 
> luck! - rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Joe Camp
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
> 
> Mary Lou:
> 
>      There is some standing water I noticed in the deck cockpit drain.  
> I'd never noticed any there before, though maybe I missed it 
> previously.  Sink drain looks fine, but could stand a close 
> inspection. Everyone has given me excellent information with which to 
> investigate a variety of causes.  I suppose, now is the time to make 
> up a checklist and begin to tic off possible sources.  Tally ho!  Thanks
to all.
> 
> Joe
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm wet (with a twist)
>> 
>> Hmm. No rain, not much wind or did you have rain up there? If not.... 
>> What do you have for through hulls? Check the aft cockpit drain. The 
>> tube for it goes through the lazarette. Check your sink drain 
>> fittings though that is above water and only ships water on a heel 
>> (water will get into the boat if the drain hose is loose and the boat 
>> heels). The only other culprit that I can think of is the centerboard 
>> housing but if you haven't had it apart recently and it didn't leak 
>> before, it's unlikely to leak now. I suppose it's possible that water 
>> is still running into the low spot from when you got swamped.
>> 
>> Good luck in tracking it down.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>> Rock Hall, MD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 09:07 PM 7/12/2012, you wrote:
>>> Hi Gang:
>>> 
>>>       You may remember, in the last episode, Joe had faced the 
>>> heartbreak of a wet boat.  In this installment, he reports that, 
>>> despite pumping and sponging water, more seems to replace what has 
>>> been removed from the bilge.  It's not a flood, but it keeps  
>>> showing up when he goes to the boat or sails.
>>> 
>>>       What culprit has gained control of circumstances?  Is the boat 
>>> afflicted by an unseen crack in the hull?  Is there some hiding  
>>> place from which water seeps? How long will our hero have to battle  
>>> the errant water?  Is he just a rube being cruelly played by the  
>>> forces of nature?  The only way to find out is to discern the  
>>> answer yourselves and help the hapless Joe.  So, break out your  
>>> decoder rings and solve this problem. Then tell Joe (in a non-coded
>>> message) what the hell is up with this.  Until next time, Rhodes
Rangers!
>>> 
>>> Joe Camp
>>> s/v John Dawson
>>> Earleville, MD.
>>> 
>>> P.S.  Who is the red hulled Rhodes on a mooring at Bohemia Bay Marina? 
>>> I see you there.
>>> 
>>> j
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