[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: water in the bilge

Sat Jul 28 19:57:05 EDT 2012

Bilge water update.
The hose from the sump pump actually runs under the seat on the port side
all of the way to the stern and exits through the hull. Same sort of exits
as the other cockpit drains. MYSTERY SOLVED on that one. Thanks All for the
input.
Still puzzled about the water entering the bilge and the area under the
floor of the head. Still taking in water. I asked an owner of a NICE Catboat
and experienced sailor his opinion. He suggested lowering the dagger board.
The thought was that maybe water pressure was forcing water
past old and worn gaskets. The thinking was that lowering the board would
fill the channel and at least slow the water intrusion. So accepting this
advice I did just that. Trial and error at this point.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Should one always lower this board
after launching even if you are in a slip?
I am most appreciative of your opinions and input.
Thanks!
Cary
Radford,VA

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> That is my guess too.  If it is going aft it is likely going to the
> cockpit where it will drain out easily...BK
>  > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:07:19 -0400
> > From: retiredtoby at gmail.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: water in the bilge
> >
> > Thanks! Charles, I will check that out. It should be easy enough to
> confirm
> > ( I hope).
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Charles Nieman
> > <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm going to guess that the bilge pumps to the space under the
> seat.then
> > > flows on the deck to the cockpit drain..... just guessing
> > >
> > > Don't have any guess on the infiltration question
> > >
> > > C
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:31:55 -0400
> > > > From: retiredtoby at gmail.com
> > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: water in the bilge
> > > >
> > > > UPDATE!!!
> > > > I sponged the bilge area and fanned it dry. Water seemed to be
> seeping
> > > from
> > > > around the heavy nylon piece that supports the mast.
> > > > I checked the V berth section and it was dry. Across from the head
> and
> > > > under the seat there is an access area. I stuck my hand in back
> toward
> > > the
> > > > center and sure enough there was a puddle of water. Turned out to be
> > > about
> > > > a gallon. I removed this water, so now I start anew.
> > > > The water tank is empty... not a source of contention and the area
> was
> > > dry.
> > > > So now I know that the previous owner who blamed the leaky water tank
> > > > hoses' was misinformed. What ever it is must be an OLD problem and
> was
> > > the
> > > > source of the rotted floor section in the head.
> > > > ONE, what is in this area that could cause a slow leak? TWO, the hose
> > > from
> > > > the bilge pump goes toward the stern. I have not been able to follow
> it
> > > > yet, but it does NOT connect to the drain in the sink area. I have
> found
> > > no
> > > > moist areas anywhere in the cabin area or cockpit area.
> > > > Now it obvious that there two problems to address. water entry and
> where
> > > > does the bilge pump too.
> > > > Sorry guys, I know I'm a novice with limited knowledge about boats
> but I
> > > > will work to correct the problems with your help and experience.
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Cary
> > > > Radford,VA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Fresh water, that kinda shortens the possible points of entry.
> > > Centerboard
> > > > > cap and also the pennant hose are the two most likely suspects.
> Getting
> > > > > those areas bone dry and then sprinkling a little talcum powder in
> > > those
> > > > > areas
> > > > > will give you a good shot at finding the point of entry. Either way
> > > it's a
> > > > > pain. Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rummy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 7/27/2012 9:35:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > retiredtoby at gmail.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the info. I have a lot to look for on the boat.
> > > > > Bob and Cathy...... the boat sat on a 10-15 degree angle - bow up
> for
> > > > > about
> > > > > two months before launch. When repairing the water tank problem
> > > > > I had to replace the flooring in the head area. Water from the
> leaking
> > > > > tank
> > > > > had seeped into that area and over time destroyed the flooring in
> the
> > > > > Head.
> > > > > Rob..... The Laz. was dry.
> > > > > This is two votes for around the centerboard area.
> > > > > Rummy...... I am on a lake and did remove some water into a clear
> > > plastic
> > > > > jar. The color did appear to be the same as the lake water.
> > > > >
> > > > > ########## Does anybody know where the bilge pump, pumps the water
> too?
> > > > > My
> > > > > hose is clear PVC tubing.###########
> > > > > THANKS for the input.
> > > > > Back to the boat with a flashlight and a sponge.
> > > > > Cary
> > > > > Radford,VA
> > > > > Whisper
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:51 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I know this is going to sound bad to some people, but is it salt
> > > water
> > > > > or
> > > > > > fresh water? Assuming you are in a salt water area.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 7/27/2012 8:33:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > > rlowe at vt.edu writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cary,
> > > > > > I saw your boat in the water last night. Looks good!
> Congratulations!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pump all the water out and even sponge out any remaining and see
> if
> > > it
> > > > > > comes back. Did you have any water in it when you launched? I had
> > > > > some
> > > > > > rain
> > > > > > water in mine that took a while to works it's way out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typical areas to look for with no weather events are around the
> > > > > > centerboard cap and around the cockpit drain hose. Take a look
> in the
> > > > > > laz and see if
> > > > > > any water is there or if it's leaking abound the hose. Any other
> > > below
> > > > > the
> > > > > > waterline through hulls on your boat? Check those too. - rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert [
> > > > > > retiredtoby at gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:53 PM
> > > > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: water in the bilge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > From: Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM
> > > > > > Subject: water in the bilge
> > > > > > To: rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First time!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just put my 86 in the water on Sunday. Thursday I noticed water
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > bilge ( about 2 inches). I checked the pump and yes it does work.
> > > > > > Haven't moved the boat from the slip and have not had any heavy
> > > > > weather.
> > > > > > So my question to you experienced Rhodies is: where should I
> check to
> > > > > see
> > > > > > where the water is entering the boat.
> > > > > > The water tank is empty as I emptied it when I first purchased
> the
> > > boat
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > also replaced the OLD lines both to and from the tank, but have
> not
> > > > > > refilled it yet.
> > > > > > The laz. is dry.
> > > > > > Any thought or experiences?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cary Tolbert
> > > > > > Radford,VA
> > > > > > Whisper
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