[Rhodes22-list] Roller Furler on 1984 R22

Wed Oct 17 14:16:18 EDT 2012

Richard,

I had a 175 (actually Doyle measured it as a 184) on the Carol Lee which I 
liked enough to stay with it when Doyle made me a new genoa 3 years ago. 
However, due to a difference in tube height I was forced to use the 150 that 
came with the Carol Lee 2 this year and I must admit that the boat sails a 
lot better with the 150. It does not get overpowered as quickly and is much 
more balanced at the helm.  Tacking is also easier as the smaller genoa is 
easier to get across without hanging up.  I must admit I love the 150.  In 
fact, when it wears out, I will have my like new "184" cut down to match it.

Just one man's opinion.

Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Beytagh
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:19 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roller Furler on 1984 R22

Thank you Mary and Rummy

This has been most helpful. I don't have the old Genny so I haven't had any
reference. I am pretty sure this roller works as you described so I will
dismantle top and bottom rollers to inspect. I suspect the sail might have
had a cheek-block a foot or two above the tack that allowed you to run a
line to the tack to give you luff tension. I have asked Stan to quote on a
new Genny and we will hopefully get this worked out. BTW would you
recommend a 175% or 150% overlap?

Thanks again

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> If you have a groove in the aluminum tube, it would probably be
> better to get a headsail with a luff "tape" that fits the groove.
> Otherwise, the sleeve Rummy suggests is the answer.
>
> Our 1991 175 genoa had a stiff tubing sewn into the luff which
> allowed the sail to be slid into the groove in the tube. The sail had
> webbing tabs at the top and bottom which allowed the sail to be
> stretched along the tube. The tabs were held in place top and bottom
> with machine screws. Obviously with this unusual set-up you can only
> put the headsail on the boat with the mast down. The upside is that
> it was bulletproof in function.
>
> We get enough tropical storm warnings here on the Chesapeake that we
> finally decided that we wanted to be able to remove the sail without
> lowering the mast and went to a Schaefer Snap-Furl system. It
> required replacing the original luff-tape with the size required by
> the Schaefer unit. We had a new forestay made a the the same time but
> I can't remember if it was required whether we just decided that it
> would be a good tie to replace it.
>
> Stan at General Boats eventually went to using CDI furlers (which
> have an internal halyard) on new and recycled R22s.
>
> I don't have a good photo that shows the parts of the old system, but
> I do have a nice one of it in use and and an enlarged portion of a
> bigger picture that sort of shows the lower part of the furler. Both
> are attached at the very bottom of this message.
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22  Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 02:23 PM 10/15/2012, you wrote:
> >I will take a shot at this. It appears that you have hardware which is
> >newer (replaced at some point and time) than your hull. The top plastic
> piece
> >is  screwed together. Remove the screws and you will be able to remove 
> >it.
> >Order a  new genny from General Boats and it will come with a sleeve 
> >which
> >fits over the  aluminum tube. The sail will then be screwed to the top of
> the
> >tube. The bottom  is usually hand tightened with another short piece of
> line
> >going through an  eyelet in the sail and attached to the furling drum in
> >some manner. Do you have  the original sail? Seeing what it looks like at
> top
> >and bottom would help quite  a bit. Great pictures. Anything you can
> provide
> >will be helpful.
> >
> >Rummy
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 10/15/2012 10:15:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >rbeytagh at gmail.com writes:
> >
> >
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