[Rhodes22-list] Use of traveler?

[John Waldhausen]

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John Waldhausen

> On Dec 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> End boom main sheeting to a traveler pretty much negates the need for a
> boom vang.  The main outhaul can be used as a preventor by taking the line
> once around a mid-boom cleat and tying off to the inside jib sheet track
> ring or just a cabin top hand hold.  I think a whisker pole for downwind is
> more effective than a vang.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM, John Waldhausen <waldjh1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm probably late to these discussions and may have missed it, but can one
>> either get or rig a vang for the Rhodes?
>> 
>> John Waldhausen
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, James Nichols <jfn302 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Graham,
>>> 
>>> I'm by no means a seasoned sailor, but I'm working on getting there.
>> I've only sailed dingies so far.
>>> 
>>> However, I watched a video on how to improve your sailing and in that
>> video, when sailing downwind, they moved the Vang from the base of the mast
>> to the stay at the side rail.  They mentioned that this was to prevent
>> accidental jibes.  Seems like using this method while sailing downwind
>> would be feasible with the poptop up as well because the Vang isn't trying
>> to go through the poptop to get to it's mount location, it would also add a
>> measure of safety because the boom won't accidentally swing around to the
>> other side if the wind shifts just a little.
>>> 
>>> There have been times sailing dingies that I have wished I could have
>> done this exact thing, but alas I need to wait till I have my Rhodes on the
>> water.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on what the video mentioned?
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
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>>> From: Graham Stewart<gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Use of traveler?
>>> 
>>> The basic idea is that the mainsheet lets the sail out while the
>> travellercontrols the shape.When going to windward sail shape is what
>> matters and when going downwindthe sail area is all that matters. Keeping
>> the traveller block under the boom flattens the sail. Having thetraveller
>> block on the high side of the boom gives the sail some twist.Twist tends to
>> dump air which reduces heel while a flat sail, especiallywhen going
>> downwind  tends to increase the area of the sail caught by thewind. A boom
>> vang flattens the sail far more effectively than the travellerwill when
>> going downwind but can be a pain to rig and is not feasible if yousail with
>> the pop top up.Upwind: I suggest that you play with you traveller and watch
>> the tell talesand luff of the main sail. If you don't have tell tales on
>> the leech of yourmainsail, adding them will be very helpful until you get
>> to know the propershape. You will see the effect of moving the traveller
>> very clearly andafter
>>> a bit it will all make sense. Keep in mind that sailing"inefficiently"
>> (by letting the mainsail out so that it is dumping air) youcan lessen the
>> heel on windy day so the "proper shape" depends largely onwhat you want -
>> maximum speed or maximum comfort. Downwind: When going off the wind let the
>> traveller out as far as it will goto flatten the sail. Then let the sail
>> out with the mainsheet until the boomis about 90 degrees to the wind. Have
>> fun.Graham -----Original Message-----From:
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org[mailto:
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris CowieSent:
>> December-26-13 11:31 AMTo: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.orgSubject: Re:
>> [Rhodes22-list] Use of traveler?Lee provides a good description and link
>> for using the traveler.  I alwayspull the traveler to windward on a close
>> haul, sailing as tight as I caninto the wind.  In a tight channel sailing
>> up wind I release the travelerbefore each tack so it is in positing for the
>> next
>>> point of sail as I makemy way up the channel.  The new traveler stan is
>> testing allows for easyadjustment from one side to the other and no hanging
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