[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa

Theodore Boender boendert at me.com
Fri Nov 8 14:57:20 EST 2013


How much wind are we talking here? 25kts?


On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> You probably hit a drunken whale.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Rick,
>> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me posting the
>> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved. Pushed
>> the
>> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our second
>> bottle  of rum.....and not the small ones.
>> 
>> Rummy
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> Rummy,
>> 
>> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid  over a
>> moving/sailing
>> R22?
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at  2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Art,
>>> I know  what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid RumRunner
>>> over  that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two
>> batteries
>>> and
>>> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on  board
>> so
>>> I  have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had  the rail buried
>> most
>>> of the  day and it was rounding up  frequently just prior to getting
>> knocked
>>> down by a  180 degree  wind change. It still is one of my best days
>> sailing.
>>> I will try to  get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I  don't
>>> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps
>> is
>>> determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>> 
>>> Rummy,
>>> 
>>> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster!  And  the sage wisdom of
>> Captain
>>> Keller.   Have you ever noticed  a  change of waterline length of the R22
>>> when heeling or with  additional ballast  forrward,  such a key factor in
>>> the
>>> hull speed?
>>> 
>>> Are Bob and Sheila  getting out  on blue water yet?  I want to get the
>> name
>>> of his new  Yankee  Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
>>> 
>>> I  hope all is well with  you and your boat.  Like, plenty of water  this
>>> year...
>>> 
>>> R,
>>> 
>>> Art
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a nice day   !
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> Date: 11/07/2013  11:24 AM   (GMT-05:00)
>>> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130%  genoa
>>> 
>>> Art,
>>> Hull  speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of  ballast  (crew),
>>> enough wind and a lot of rum.
>>> I spent last   weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob Keller
>>> (Former  Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310.
>> Had
>>> enough  wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than  the rated
>> hull
>>> speed
>>> for his  boat.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated  11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net   writes:
>>> 
>>> Think of  it, guys - what a terrible shame that  with our  infinite vigor
>>> and
>>> boundless  brilliance  we are still confined to the  hull speed.  We need
>>> some  more  help from our fearless  leader!
>>> 
>>> Well,   back to a glass of Sherry in  the  BR...
>>> 
>>> Rummy,  where are  you?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Art
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a nice day  !
>>> 
>>> --------  Original  message --------
>>> From: Charles Nieman    <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>> Date: 11/05/2013  3:14   PM   (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Rhodes List   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]   Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>> 
>>> Ric, et  al;
>>> For the UPS, I  have a  seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
>>> choose
>>> to hoist (ie  flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is  just bangs the
>>> mast like  everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't  want to be the only
>>> quiet
>>> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have  found that while the UPS is self
>> furling,
>>> it
>>> has a tendancy to  try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out or
>>> other   times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to
>>> deploy  (if
>>> it is  anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since  I  know I won't
>> be
>>> using  it)
>>> 
>>> On the  question about the furler, I  am presuming you are asking  about
>> the
>>> 130; and I cannot answer. I  have never had the sail off the  furling
>> tube
>>> (I
>>> have on the main,  and that sail  has the groove in the furling tube
>> that
>>> one inserts  the  sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while under
>>> full
>>> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see    it.
>>> 
>>>> From: ric at steelbone.com
>>>> To:    rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013  13:00:01   -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry  on 130% genoa
>>>> 
>>>> HI Charles
>>>> Thanks for  your input
>>>> Personally I think  a  130 and the UPS are a  great combination for the
>>>> Rhodes  22.
>>>> Questions.
>>>> How do you hoist you UPS?
>>>> Do you  have a  dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
>>>> Do you have a modern  roller furler with a luff  groove?
>>>> Ric  Stott
>>>> s/v Dadventure -   '84
>>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at  12:21 PM,  Charles Nieman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Art
>>>>> I had a 175 on my  old R22, I thought it  was  a great sail and
>>>>> probably used  too much of it   when I should have reefed. I got a
>> new
>>>>> to  me R22   that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to
>> a
>>> 
>>>>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make   that
>> move,
>>>>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for   really light  air (the
>> observed
>>>>> problem with the  175  was when you really  need that much sail, it
>> is
>>>>> too  heavy to work). I am so  pleased with the 130 and UPS, I  will
>> not
>>> 
>>>>> be going back to  the 175 when these  wear out (I also doubt  the UPS
>>>>> will  wear out,  since I only use it in very  light air, which
>> usually
>>>>> means too hot to be out  there, here in Texas).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I am on a Texas  lake, and If you are  thinking in regards to
>> your
>>> 
>>>>> Florida location,  it may be totally different.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  One man's opinion
>>>>> 
>>>>> Charles
>>>>> 98 R  22
>>>>> s/v Daydream
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date:  Tue, 5  Nov 2013 16:44:06  +0000
>>>>>> From:   cover-man at comcast.net
>>>>>> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am  contemplating getting the 130, but  curious to get  any
>> feedback
>>>>>> on your performance  experience.  Thx.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Art
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