[Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
R22RumRunner at aol.com
R22RumRunner at aol.com
Fri Nov 8 15:29:59 EST 2013
Winds started out around ten to fifteen when we went out around noon. They
kept getting stronger and were in the twenty five range with at least one
gust higher than that. We finally pushed our luck to hard and around three
thirty we had the mast in the water. No harm and no foul. Lost one pack of
cigarettes and four rum and cokes. Pumped the water out of the cabin and
went back to the dock under motor power.........and still drinking. :)
Rummy
Rummy
In a message dated 11/8/2013 2:57:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
boendert at me.com writes:
How much wind are we talking here? 25kts?
On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> You probably hit a drunken whale.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me posting the
>> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved.
Pushed
>> the
>> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our second
>> bottle of rum.....and not the small ones.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid over a
>> moving/sailing
>> R22?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Art,
>>> I know what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid
RumRunner
>>> over that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two
>> batteries
>>> and
>>> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on
board
>> so
>>> I have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had the rail buried
>> most
>>> of the day and it was rounding up frequently just prior to getting
>> knocked
>>> down by a 180 degree wind change. It still is one of my best days
>> sailing.
>>> I will try to get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I
don't
>>> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps
>> is
>>> determined to drop it four feet for the winter.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>
>>> Rummy,
>>>
>>> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster! And the sage wisdom of
>> Captain
>>> Keller. Have you ever noticed a change of waterline length of the
R22
>>> when heeling or with additional ballast forrward, such a key factor
in
>>> the
>>> hull speed?
>>>
>>> Are Bob and Sheila getting out on blue water yet? I want to get the
>> name
>>> of his new Yankee Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR.
>>>
>>> I hope all is well with you and your boat. Like, plenty of water
this
>>> year...
>>>
>>> R,
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a nice day !
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> Date: 11/07/2013 11:24 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>
>>> Art,
>>> Hull speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of ballast
(crew),
>>> enough wind and a lot of rum.
>>> I spent last weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob
Keller
>>> (Former Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310.
>> Had
>>> enough wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than the rated
>> hull
>>> speed
>>> for his boat.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> cover-man at comcast.net writes:
>>>
>>> Think of it, guys - what a terrible shame that with our infinite
vigor
>>> and
>>> boundless brilliance we are still confined to the hull speed. We
need
>>> some more help from our fearless leader!
>>>
>>> Well, back to a glass of Sherry in the BR...
>>>
>>> Rummy, where are you?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a nice day !
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>>> Date: 11/05/2013 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>
>>> Ric, et al;
>>> For the UPS, I have a seperate halyard that is there for whatever I
>>> choose
>>> to hoist (ie flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just bangs
the
>>> mast like everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to be the only
>>> quiet
>>> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while the UPS is self
>> furling,
>>> it
>>> has a tendancy to try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out
or
>>> other times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to
>>> deploy (if
>>> it is anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since I know I
won't
>> be
>>> using it)
>>>
>>> On the question about the furler, I am presuming you are asking
about
>> the
>>> 130; and I cannot answer. I have never had the sail off the furling
>> tube
>>> (I
>>> have on the main, and that sail has the groove in the furling tube
>> that
>>> one inserts the sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while
under
>>> full
>>> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see it.
>>>
>>>> From: ric at steelbone.com
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>
>>>> HI Charles
>>>> Thanks for your input
>>>> Personally I think a 130 and the UPS are a great combination for
the
>>>> Rhodes 22.
>>>> Questions.
>>>> How do you hoist you UPS?
>>>> Do you have a dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift?
>>>> Do you have a modern roller furler with a luff groove?
>>>> Ric Stott
>>>> s/v Dadventure - '84
>>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Charles Nieman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Art
>>>>> I had a 175 on my old R22, I thought it was a great sail and
>>>>> probably used too much of it when I should have reefed. I got a
>> new
>>>>> to me R22 that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to
>> a
>>>
>>>>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make that
>> move,
>>>>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for really light air (the
>> observed
>>>>> problem with the 175 was when you really need that much sail, it
>> is
>>>>> too heavy to work). I am so pleased with the 130 and UPS, I will
>> not
>>>
>>>>> be going back to the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt the UPS
>>>>> will wear out, since I only use it in very light air, which
>> usually
>>>>> means too hot to be out there, here in Texas).
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I am on a Texas lake, and If you are thinking in regards to
>> your
>>>
>>>>> Florida location, it may be totally different.
>>>>>
>>>>> One man's opinion
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>> 98 R 22
>>>>> s/v Daydream
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000
>>>>>> From: cover-man at comcast.net
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am contemplating getting the 130, but curious to get any
>> feedback
>>>>>> on your performance experience. Thx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art
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