[Rhodes22-list] My new toy.... Talk me into saving it

Thu Oct 30 12:04:25 EDT 2014

Hi Rummy:
If you would send me the specifications for the floor as well I would
appreciate that. My floor is completely removed and while I kept the old
pieces to aid in the reconstruction, those were not the original pieces and
having the plans would be very helpful. My email is gstewart8 at cogeco dot
ca.

You are also absolutely right about the keel worries. I should have
mentioned that as well especially given what I went through this year fixing
my keel. Also, it appears that Brad has some cement ballast on the inside of
the hull which I assume is what has been breaking up. My boat does not have
cement ballast inside the hull but instead a set of steel blocks.  It is
hard to imagine what would break up cement like that other than water
freezing and if that has been the case it might indicate other serious
problems. 

The problem is in determining what has occurred inside the keel itself.
First thing I would do is take the cap off and check the inside walls of the
centreboard housing. If they are pushed in from water entering the keel and
freezing I would agree with you that, considering all of the other problems
with the boat, it probably is beyond any reasonable prospect of repair.

If the housing does not show evidence of freezing damage it would not be so
difficult to remove the cement and replace it with other ballast. As I
discovered, getting inside the keel from inside the boat is just about
impossible for a mere mortal. You can drill holes into hollow spots from the
outside of the keel to see if any water runs out and to let it dry out so
long as the boat is protected from rain entering. Over the course of the
time it would take to repair the boat in a northern climate (years) the keel
should dry out. In my case I then filled all of the voids I could find with
polyester resin - for my keel that took 3 gallons! 

Brad mentions that all of the hardware feels loose and needs backing plates.
My suspicion is that the damage to the core is the problem in which case it
might be much more extensive than just the foredeck. Not a good sign.

Graham 

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Brad,
You certainly have a huge project on your hands, but everything is
repairable if you have the time and money to accomplish it.
I found an article several years ago on deck repairs without removing the
deck. If you will send me your email address to R22RumRunner @aol.com, I
will  find the article and send it to you directly. I also have a diagram
with dimensions for the flooring and stringers.
The pictures suggest that this hull had standing water in it for a long
time. Hopefully the ballast wasn't subjected to freeze/thaw cycles or you
may have a lot of structural damage in the keel area. Crawl around under the
boat  and send us a few pictures. Look for any cracks or areas where water
has been  leaking out. To me, having to rebuild the keel area would be a
deal breaker.  Salvaging the hardware and cutting her up might be the
smartest thing you could  do.

Rummy

In a message dated 10/29/2014 12:17:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:

I just  got back home last night from a trip to get a 1974 Rhodes from her
original  owner. Now don't get me wrong, I knew this was not a show piece
when I got it,  but inspecting it today, shows I have some serious issues. I
guess what I'm  asking is can I fix em all.... Here's some of them (pics
attached)

1.  The deck is sunken in the midde and very soft. It looks the way to
strengthen  it is through the cabin liner. Or is there another way???
2. Gelcoat cracks  and crazing all over. This would not be a simple grind it
out and fill it  proposition. The surface of the boat looks more like a road
map of the eastern  United States!!
3. The floors are all rottted out and there is still water  in it (I see how
to fix this, so I think this will be easy 4. The concrete  in the keel area
is all broken up (this worries me alot). 
I guess I could  chisel it out and  pour more, but has anyone had success
doing  this??
5. Cushions are toast
6. Bushings are missing from the (old)  roller furling system (what type of
material is this???:)

This is just  the start. I told myself, that when I went to pick it up, I
could always get  my money out of it by using the hardware to improve my
current boat, sell the  trailer, and saw her up, but then again, I've always
wanted a Rhodes 22..... I  really am on the fence on this.... Can I fix
her?? 
Should I scrap  her????

Brad Bachelor 

Marrying an old bachelor is like  buying second-hand furniture. -- Helen
Rowland 1875-1950, American  Journalist
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