[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers

The Rhodes 22 Email List rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Thu Aug 13 10:20:16 EDT 2015


Graham: Nicely done!

Bob (palatka)

> On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:11 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Larry:
> Here are the pictures of the deck and cockpit scuppers.
> Underside photo shows where I ground down the surface to something
> reasonably flat and then used the plywood donut that I sanded to a wedge
> shape to give a lower surface that was parallel to the upper surface.
> Otherwise the scupper goes in at an angle.
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 6:32 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers
> 
> Graham,
> 
> It would be great to see photos of this
> 
> Larry Allen
> Makai
> Sarasota 
> larrywallen at verizon.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:45 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Scuppers
> 
> I changed the subject of this line to reflect the contents relating to
> cockpit scubbers.
> 
> Yes, in fact I just finished installing cockpit scuppers about 20 minutes
> ago - having started 3 years ago. In my boat (79) the cockpit drains above
> the lazarette originally had 3/4" mushroom thru-hulls. These small
> thru-hulls were constantly being clogged and seemed inadequate to me when
> the cockpit needed to drain quickly. 
> 
> The area around where they were placed was depressed - presumably so the
> water would funnel into the drain. The depression was defeated by the
> mushroom cap and so water always pooled around the thru-hull and stained the
> gel coat. The same was true for the cockpit drain where the mushroom cap
> prevented the all the water from draining out.
> 
> Years ago I simply removed the 3/4" " thru-hulls and replaced them with 1
> 1/2" ones in the deck and transom. That let the water flow with much less
> clogging but I still got the pool around the thru-hull.
> 
> I have since installed flush mounted scuppers in both  the deck and in the
> cockpit drain. For the deck drains, I filled the depression with epoxy with
> fairing powder and then sanded it flush with the surrounding area. I then
> painted the entire deck of the boat but you could patch the area with gel
> coat. I was planning to paint the deck anyway. 
> 
> I used a Dremel with a sanding drum to create the hole with bevel sides and
> then made a donut of plywood that I attached under the hole with thickened
> epoxy for strength and depth. The ones under the deck has to be tapered to
> fit as the bottom side of the deck is not horizontal to the deck.
> 
> I now have flush-mounted scuppers that should eliminate the problem of water
> stains. This was not a particularly difficult job but it took longer than
> you might expect as it is fussy.
> 
> I can send photos if you want them
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email
> List
> Sent: August 12, 2015 2:10 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris' Bahamian Adventure
> 
> The rhodes has a very large cockpit...above waterline. Has anyone added
> large stern scuppers to help rid the cockpit of water in rough conditions?
> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:48 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Helen,
>> 
>> If you have not already, check out the archives for Bill's last 
>> Bahamas
> Adventure in his R22. 
>> 
>> He went with his son and a friend and had a blast. He chronicled his
> journey in detail and is a great storyteller. 
>> 
>> Now, I just need to find someone crazy enough to crew with me. My 
>> admiral is not comfortable in open water :(
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ted
>> 
>> S/V AIRPOWER
>> 1991/2013 Jacksonville, FL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We have made the trip to the Bahama's many times...but never in a
>>> Rhodes22...:)  I think that is the perfect Bahama's boat.  We went 
>>> over every other year for almost 10 years while living aboard our 
>>> cruising  boat..My husband and I have both commented while 
>>> refurbishing out Rhodes22...how  nice it would be to take her 
>>> over..health and age will prevent us...but we sure admire you all 
>>> getting together to make that trip..We normally checked in at Bimini 
>>> and did the normal route  .....  Chub...Nassau... down to  Georgetown 
>>> stopping at all the out islands along the Exumas..across to  Long and 
>>> then up to Cat and through the upper Bahamas and home to Port
> Canaveral...We enjoyed every trip...Hopefully you will send reports as you
> go...:):)
>>> ENJOY!!!!!!!!!    Helen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 8/12/2015 9:53:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> Are you talking about the Sapona?  It is located  near Alicetown, Bimini.
> 
>>> It is an old concrete ship (constructed out of  concrete, that is) 
>>> that was used as target practice during WWII and was the  target for 
>>> the practice run of the "Lost Patrol" of Bermuda Triangle  fame.  It 
>>> was also used as a staging area for running alcohol during 
>>> prohibition.  And a great place to snorkel and scuba dive.  Or...are 
>>> you talking about an even older wreck...maybe some treasure hunting?
>>> 
>>> I  would like to make another run over there and may join if schedule 
>>> permits.  Between you, Ted, me, and anyone else, we would have a nice 
>>> little flotilla ... and maybe create some marketing buzz to 
>>> re-kickstart  Stan's boatbuilding business.
>>> 
>>> Bill W.
>>> s/v Fina  Lee
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of The Rhodes
>>> 22 Email List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:48  AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris'  Bahamian Adventure
>>> 
>>> Hey Ted,
>>> I'm open and flexible as far as a launch point.  Key Largo sounds  good.
> 
>>> Bimini is the easiest to check into and I want to check out a  wreck 
>>> that is in the area.  Very, very old. and not mentioned by anyone  
>>> I've
> talked to.
>>> We would stay in the Bahamas for 4-6 weeks I should  think.  I would 
>>> be thrilled to have another Rhodes or two to tag  along.
>>> Timewise I think it would be in April.  I would like to get  back to 
>>> Fl by no later than mid May so I can ship the boat to Italy by early 
>>> June.  Lets keep in touch, maybe recruit a few fellow Rhodies?  I'll
> send some links on
>>> what the Enosis is up to in a couple of weeks or so.   Things never quite
> 
>>> go as you plan.
>>> Chris G.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at  10:06 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> Hope all is well. I am very  interested in hearing more about the 
>>>> Bahamian plans.
>>>> 
>>>> After reading about Bill W's infamous Bahamian Adventure and your 
>>>> upcoming plans, I may be interested (and crazy enough) in the 
>>>> possibilities of tagging along with S/V Airpower. I've made the Gulf 
>>>> Stream crossing many times as a kid growing up in south Florida, but 
>>>> that was in powerful multi engine fishing boats.
>>>> 
>>>> Where do you  plan to launch? I assume somewhere around Key Largo. 
>>>> You may want to  consider this trailer sailor friendly marina.
>>>> http://southdademarina.com/.
>>>> 
>>>> Will you clear immigration in  Bimini? Where will you head from there?
>>>> 
>>>> When do you think you  might head south? You mentioned in the 
>>>> spring, but do you have a  target month? March? April?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ted (have EPIRB,  will travel)
>>>> 
>>>> S/v Airpower
>>>> Jacksonville,  FL
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:34 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List  <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I  shall keep all of you guys in mind and let you know about the
>>>> "disposable
>>>>> equipment".  An you guys know me, I can't help  but journal about 
>>>>> Enosis
>>>> and
>>>>> Rhodes in  general.  Also anyone and any time is more than welcome 
>>>>> to come along in their boat for any segment of the grand adventure, 
>>>>> it would be
>>>> fun.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:25 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List  < 
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris,  Bon voyage in the Med!  Please keep a narrative and  photo
>>>> journal
>>>>>> of your wanderings- all of us on the  list will be a rapt audience.
>>>>>>      Please also keep me in mind for the trailer and the truck as 
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Richard Arking, R22 in Sheepshead Bay,  Brooklyn, ny
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM,  The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh,
>>>>>>> If anyone is interested, I will be placing "Enosis" on a 
>>>>>>> roll-on-Roll-off freighter bound for Italy next  spring.  I will
>>>> transfer
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to a cheap throw away trailer.  I currently am using a really 
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> 2003 Triad trailer designed for the Rhodes.  It has  electric 
>>>>>>> breaks and
>>>> brand
>>>>>>> new 9 ply trailer tires.  I'll probably put less than 12,000 
>>>>>>> miles on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> tires when I am  ready to sell.  So, if you are thinking about a 
>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> great shape and well cared  for, for next season, let me know.  I 
>>>>>>> was thinking  about selling the tow vehicle which is a 2003 F-250 
>>>>>>> diesel
>>>> with
>>>>>>> only 101K.  The truck was garage  kept its whole life.  Well up 
>>>>>>> until
>>>> now,
>>>>>>> and I will store it under a cover most of the  time.  So as I get 
>>>>>>> near sending Enosis on its  Mediterranian tour, I'll let you guys 
>>>>>>> know about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot to mention that I may  join you for part of 
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Bahamas
>>>>>>>> trip.  With so many Rhodes in the East Coast area maybe we can 
>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> group together.  Please keep us posted on your plans.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes  22 
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:23 AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 & Sailing Desolation Sound
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I for one am REALLY looking forward  to reading about the 
>>>>>>>> adventures of Enosis.   Chris weaves a really good yarn of his 
>>>>>>>> trips with  the perfect
>>>>>>> mix
>>>>>>>> of pictures and  descriptions that paints a vivid picture of 
>>>>>>>> what it  is
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to "be there".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bill Wickman
>>>>>>>> s/v Fina Lee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 
>>>>>>>> Email
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:56 AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes  22 Email List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22  & Sailing Desolation 
>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Glad you enjoyed the tale Patrick.  My wife and I plan  on an 
>>>>>>>> encore of
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the best sailing adventures we've had in the last 20 years,  and 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>> So 2 months in Desolation sound is on the calendar this  summer.  
>>>>>>>> Then
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> repeat of the Mexican adventure but for 5 months this comming
>>> winter.
>>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>>> a repeat of the  Bahama adventures in the following spring but 
>>>>>>>> only  for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> month or so.  Then stick  the boat on a freighter and over to 
>>>>>>>> Italy
>>>> next
>>>>>>>> summer.  I'll try to post the adventures  and anyone interesting 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>>> us along the way on their boat, we would  welcome some Rhodie
>>> company.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris & Alice
>>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:36 PM, The  Rhodes 22 Email List < 
>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was wandering by www.rhodes22.com recently and came  across 
>>>>>>>>> the odyssey of Enosis on the front  page.  Downloadable .pdf 
>>>>>>>>> files of Chris'  adventures.
>>>>>>>>> Some of you may enjoy the read as I  did.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For some reason  with the first file I had to right-click on it 
>>>>>>>>> and open in a new window (windows exploder and chrome) but the 
>>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> opened
>>>>>>>>> with just a click.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Patrick
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