[Rhodes22-list] Soul of the sole

[The Rhodes 22 Email List]

Have you considered Life Seal?
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/boatlife--life-seal-sealant--P004_127_003_005

It is for both below and above the waterline and can be removed if
necessary.  I've used it before with good success.

Hank
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> 3m 5200 It is what most manufacturers are using for hull to deck
> sealants.  It is true it is an adhesive. But, it is a waterproof strongly
> adherent, flexible one.  If removed you do have to grind it off with a
> power drill and wire brush.  It may also make the boat less desirable to
> recycle.
> The 5200 adhesive and 4200 sealants are moisture cure polyurethanes.
> Water causes it to cure and set up.  I do not believe Silicone is the
> treatment of choice, though it would work for a while.  It looses its
> adherence over time with the flexing of the hull and will wick moisture in
> by capillary action within a few years.  Silicone also shouldnt be used
> below the waterline ever! and someone used it to seal my through hull
> joints.  I have to take them out and seal them properly too.
> Who out there has used silicone and what is your experience? Silicone is
> cheaper and great for house windows but i dont think it has a place on
> board a boat.  It isnt totally waterproof and breaks down very fast in a
> salty, warm environment. If you are bedding hardware you might want to
> remove in the future, perhaps 3M 4200 might be the way to go.
> Lets ask Rummy!
> Bob
>
> > On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:07 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would not use 5200 if I were you.  It is a permanent adhesive and not
> > designed for this type of application.  Use a sealant instead and you'll
> be
> > better off.
> >
> > Hank
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:55 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Graham: Yes that is what i meant.  These boats have a notoriously leaky
> >> hull to deck joint.  Stan explained it was due to the workers
> ineptitude he
> >> had applying the joint caulk during those years.  They probably caulked
> the
> >> seam after the hull and deck were fastened instead of caulking both
> sides
> >> then putting the sandwich together and just wiping away the excess.
> >> I am going to remove the rail, clean out as much old caulk as i can and
> >> then seal it with 3m 5200 and re-attach the rub rail. It shouldnt leak
> any
> >> more.  I did this once before on an 80's era boat and it worked great.
> >> Shortcuts were happening in every industry back then.
> >>
> >>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 9:43 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I doubt that it is the rub rail that is leaking. If it is leaking
> through
> >>> the screw holes you might get away with just removing the screws one
> at a
> >>> time and reinserting with sealant. It is more likely that the leak is
> >> behind
> >>> the rub rail where the deck and hull join.
> >>>
> >>> Graham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22
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> >>> List
> >>> Sent: January-15-15 6:56 AM
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> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Soul of the sole
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Rummy.
> >>> Yes i already have the bleach and scrub brush out there.  I am going to
> >> do
> >>> the rub rail first though.  Very leaky boat!
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:06 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure you are aware of this,but the photo shows a great deal of
> mold.
> >>>> You might want to clean the area really good with a soapy bleach
> >>>> solution prior  to installing the new stringers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 1/14/2015 9:29:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org writes:
> >>>>
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