[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route

Sun Sep 27 22:00:48 EDT 2015

Did my two photos not come through? They must have gotten stripped. Maybe
they're too big. I'll try one at a time.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Slim:
> To post a photo simply attach it to your message.
> You probably had the line for the board with blocks. With a tiller
> extended you don't need a line going to the stern. Most of the time you can
> just leave the helm for the few seconds it takes to adjust the line.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of The
> Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: September 27, 2015 3:15 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route
>
> I got the cap off today after wrestling with the stripped Phillips head
> bolts, which I will replace with hex heads. My boat is a 1990 with the
> diamond board and no blocks on the pennant. It's direct lift which I
> suspected due to the short length of line from up to down. I won't need
> more than about 4-5 feet of new line. The old line was much longer, perhaps
> to be able to control while sitting back at the helm (?). I had gathered
> all that extra line into a sort of monkey fist handle and I never needed it
> to reach to the stern.
>
> I'm trying to remember how to post a photo here…
>
> Slim
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The
> > difference between this and Rob's is that the line starts at the cap
> > rather than the centreboard. In Ron's case there will be three
> > attachment points on the centerboard while with mine there are just two.
> >
> > Frankly, I would not worry too much about the route you take. Using
> > blocks should make raising the centerboard easier but apparently some
> > have dispensed with the blocks altogether. I tested that myself and
> > found that the weight on the line was substantial and aside for the
> > effort to raise it, that put a lot more strain on the cleat. It may
> > be, however, that the newer "diamond" centerboards require less effort
> to raise.
> >
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> [mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of The
> > Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Sent: September 23, 2015 5:07 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
> >
> > Depends on your setup, but here is one possible routing. - Rob
> >
> >
> > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20140507/b
> > 8028f59/attachment.JPG
> >
> >
> > Rob Lowe
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> [mailto:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of The
> > Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:43 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
> >
> > Might search the archives,  but I remember a diagram of being posted
> > of the pendant and associated blocks,  I believe it listed the length
> > of line needed.
> >
> >
> > James.
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > From:"The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>> Date:Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM
> > Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
> >
> > I agree with Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length
> > needed?). Yours probably was replaced with inferior line.  Keep an eye
> > out for something sharp.  I wouldnt whip the line.
> >
> > Bob (palatka)
> >
> > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Slim:
> > > The line also has to pass through a series of blocks and I would be
> > concerned that the whipping might not pass through properly. I would
> > skip the whipping and try to find out what is fraying the line. Mine
> > is still good after 40 years so I expect there is some rough edge
> > rubbing on the line that might be corrected fairly easily.
> > >
> > > Graham Stewart
> > > Agile. R22, 1976
> > > Kingston Ontario Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > The Rhodes 22
> > > Email List
> > > Sent: September 22, 2015 10:18 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
> > >
> > > Thanks all for the welcoming replies. Nice to see some familiar
> > > names
> > and old friends. Fandango's been on the hard for a few years while I
> > went through some major changes but I finally got her in the water
> > this summer and remembered why I like this boat so much. I've done
> > quite a bit of much-needed maintenance and still more to come but the
> > centerboard line was about to break so that's the priority now.
> > >
> > > I was able to get in contact with Stan who said the neoprene gasket
> > should be reusable and that any quarter inch line will do, although
> > I'll look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I'm thinking
> > a whipping right where it gets cleated would be a good idea so long as
> > it doesn't bulk up the line too much to slide through the hole. While
> > I have the line out I might drill that hole just a little bigger. I
> > never want to do this job again so an anti-chafe whip came to mind.
> > >
> > > I started in on it today and took off the breaker panel, the big
> > > board
> > that serves as the companionway step, settee and hinged passageway
> > (all one piece), the step support and the floor board around the
> > trunk. I counted 56 bolts around the trunk! They're ss phillips heads
> > (many stripped out heads at that -- don't know why they'd be stripped
> > -- how many times has the trunk been removed?) with washers and lock
> > nuts. It's a royal PITA removing even the bolts with the good heads to
> > say nothing of the stripped ones! I got about half of them off and quit
> for the day.
> > >
> > > This may take a while but there should be plenty of good weather
> > > left in
> > the season to work on it before it gets too cold so no need to rush
> > through it. [grin] I'll try to get some photos and keep you posted.
> > >
> > > Thanks again everybody!
> > >
> > > -Slim
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Slim: Use high quality yacht braid.  It will last longer than other
> > >> line in a cam cleat.
> > >> The gasket is neoprene and doesnt need a sealant. Just clean the
> > >> surfaces really well.
> > >> If your cap is put on with screws, most recommend changing to ss
> > >> bolts and nylock ss nuts.
> > >>
> > >> Bob (palatka)
> > >>
> > >>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:35 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is Steve Alm ("Slim") and I live in
> > >>> Minneapolis, MN and also in Menomonie, WI. I was an active list
> > >>> user for quite a few years back before many of us migrated to
> Facebook.
> > >>> I've had
> > >> my
> > >>> R22 for about 17 years and it needs some attention. The
> > >>> centerboard
> > >> control
> > >>> line is getting frayed where it always meets the cleat when all
> > >>> the way
> > >> up
> > >>> so I want to replace it before it breaks and I'd have no way to
> > >>> raise
> > >> it. I
> > >>> guess then I'd have a fixed keel boat, No?
> > >>>
> > >>> I've emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and possibly the line itself.
> > >>> I
> > >> don't
> > >>> know exactly what kind of line this is. It's stiffer than the
> > >>> stuff I see at West Marine so I don't really know what to ask for,
> > >>> or if it's even critical.
> > >>>
> > >>> Have any of y'all ever done this? I'd love some advice or tips on
> > >>> the procedure. For instance, when you put all the trunk screws
> > >>> back in, do
> > >> you
> > >>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same? Gasket
> > >>> sealer brand/type?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> > >>> Slim
> > >>> SV Fandango
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner
> > >>>> <rodellner at icloud.com <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi List!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is from Mary (Rod’s wife).  I am sending this, as Slim
> > >>>> (Steven
> > >> Alm)
> > >>>> has a Rhodes 22 issue…….and he has been “off da list” for
> > >>>> awhile……(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with us!)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Take him “under your wings”!      Thank You!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mary Ellner
> > >>>> s/v Toy Blew
> > >>>> St Croix River/WI
> > >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> > >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> General Boats is listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the
> > >>>>> Rhodes
> > >> 22
> > >>>> is
> > >>>>> not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just bringing
> > >>>>> groceries
> > >> from
> > >>>> his
> > >>>>> new business.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bob
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----
> > >>>>> Bob Weiss
> > >>>>> Beach Spring
> > >>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> View this message in context:
> > >>>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Show-tp50906p50919.ht
> > >>>> ml
> > >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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