[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route

Sun Sep 27 22:02:41 EDT 2015

On Sunday, September 27, 2015, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did my two photos not come through? They must have gotten stripped. Maybe
> they're too big. I'll try one at a time.
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org');>> wrote:
>
>> Slim:
>> To post a photo simply attach it to your message.
>> You probably had the line for the board with blocks. With a tiller
>> extended you don't need a line going to the stern. Most of the time you can
>> just leave the helm for the few seconds it takes to adjust the line.
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Sent: September 27, 2015 3:15 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route
>>
>> I got the cap off today after wrestling with the stripped Phillips head
>> bolts, which I will replace with hex heads. My boat is a 1990 with the
>> diamond board and no blocks on the pennant. It's direct lift which I
>> suspected due to the short length of line from up to down. I won't need
>> more than about 4-5 feet of new line. The old line was much longer, perhaps
>> to be able to control while sitting back at the helm (?). I had gathered
>> all that extra line into a sort of monkey fist handle and I never needed it
>> to reach to the stern.
>>
>> I'm trying to remember how to post a photo here…
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The
>> > difference between this and Rob's is that the line starts at the cap
>> > rather than the centreboard. In Ron's case there will be three
>> > attachment points on the centerboard while with mine there are just two.
>> >
>> > Frankly, I would not worry too much about the route you take. Using
>> > blocks should make raising the centerboard easier but apparently some
>> > have dispensed with the blocks altogether. I tested that myself and
>> > found that the weight on the line was substantial and aside for the
>> > effort to raise it, that put a lot more strain on the cleat. It may
>> > be, however, that the newer "diamond" centerboards require less effort
>> to raise.
>> >
>> >
>> > Graham Stewart
>> > Agile. R22, 1976
>> > Kingston Ontario Canada
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> [mailto:
>> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of The
>> > Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > Sent: September 23, 2015 5:07 PM
>> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>> >
>> > Depends on your setup, but here is one possible routing. - Rob
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20140507/b
>> > 8028f59/attachment.JPG
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Lowe
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> [mailto:
>> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of The
>> > Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:43 PM
>> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>> >
>> > Might search the archives,  but I remember a diagram of being posted
>> > of the pendant and associated blocks,  I believe it listed the length
>> > of line needed.
>> >
>> >
>> > James.
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >
>> > From:"The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > <javascript:;>> Date:Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM
>> > Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>> >
>> > I agree with Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length
>> > needed?). Yours probably was replaced with inferior line.  Keep an eye
>> > out for something sharp.  I wouldnt whip the line.
>> >
>> > Bob (palatka)
>> >
>> > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Slim:
>> > > The line also has to pass through a series of blocks and I would be
>> > concerned that the whipping might not pass through properly. I would
>> > skip the whipping and try to find out what is fraying the line. Mine
>> > is still good after 40 years so I expect there is some rough edge
>> > rubbing on the line that might be corrected fairly easily.
>> > >
>> > > Graham Stewart
>> > > Agile. R22, 1976
>> > > Kingston Ontario Canada
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>
>> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf
>> > > Of
>> > The Rhodes 22
>> > > Email List
>> > > Sent: September 22, 2015 10:18 PM
>> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks all for the welcoming replies. Nice to see some familiar
>> > > names
>> > and old friends. Fandango's been on the hard for a few years while I
>> > went through some major changes but I finally got her in the water
>> > this summer and remembered why I like this boat so much. I've done
>> > quite a bit of much-needed maintenance and still more to come but the
>> > centerboard line was about to break so that's the priority now.
>> > >
>> > > I was able to get in contact with Stan who said the neoprene gasket
>> > should be reusable and that any quarter inch line will do, although
>> > I'll look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I'm thinking
>> > a whipping right where it gets cleated would be a good idea so long as
>> > it doesn't bulk up the line too much to slide through the hole. While
>> > I have the line out I might drill that hole just a little bigger. I
>> > never want to do this job again so an anti-chafe whip came to mind.
>> > >
>> > > I started in on it today and took off the breaker panel, the big
>> > > board
>> > that serves as the companionway step, settee and hinged passageway
>> > (all one piece), the step support and the floor board around the
>> > trunk. I counted 56 bolts around the trunk! They're ss phillips heads
>> > (many stripped out heads at that -- don't know why they'd be stripped
>> > -- how many times has the trunk been removed?) with washers and lock
>> > nuts. It's a royal PITA removing even the bolts with the good heads to
>> > say nothing of the stripped ones! I got about half of them off and quit
>> for the day.
>> > >
>> > > This may take a while but there should be plenty of good weather
>> > > left in
>> > the season to work on it before it gets too cold so no need to rush
>> > through it. [grin] I'll try to get some photos and keep you posted.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again everybody!
>> > >
>> > > -Slim
>> > >
>> > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Slim: Use high quality yacht braid.  It will last longer than other
>> > >> line in a cam cleat.
>> > >> The gasket is neoprene and doesnt need a sealant. Just clean the
>> > >> surfaces really well.
>> > >> If your cap is put on with screws, most recommend changing to ss
>> > >> bolts and nylock ss nuts.
>> > >>
>> > >> Bob (palatka)
>> > >>
>> > >>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:35 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> > >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is Steve Alm ("Slim") and I live in
>> > >>> Minneapolis, MN and also in Menomonie, WI. I was an active list
>> > >>> user for quite a few years back before many of us migrated to
>> Facebook.
>> > >>> I've had
>> > >> my
>> > >>> R22 for about 17 years and it needs some attention. The
>> > >>> centerboard
>> > >> control
>> > >>> line is getting frayed where it always meets the cleat when all
>> > >>> the way
>> > >> up
>> > >>> so I want to replace it before it breaks and I'd have no way to
>> > >>> raise
>> > >> it. I
>> > >>> guess then I'd have a fixed keel boat, No?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I've emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and possibly the line itself.
>> > >>> I
>> > >> don't
>> > >>> know exactly what kind of line this is. It's stiffer than the
>> > >>> stuff I see at West Marine so I don't really know what to ask for,
>> > >>> or if it's even critical.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Have any of y'all ever done this? I'd love some advice or tips on
>> > >>> the procedure. For instance, when you put all the trunk screws
>> > >>> back in, do
>> > >> you
>> > >>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same? Gasket
>> > >>> sealer brand/type?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> > >>> Slim
>> > >>> SV Fandango
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner
>> > >>>> <rodellner at icloud.com
>> > <javascript:;>>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Hi List!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This is from Mary (Rod’s wife).  I am sending this, as Slim
>> > >>>> (Steven
>> > >> Alm)
>> > >>>> has a Rhodes 22 issue…….and he has been “off da list” for
>> > >>>> awhile……(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with us!)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Take him “under your wings”!      Thank You!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Mary Ellner
>> > >>>> s/v Toy Blew
>> > >>>> St Croix River/WI
>> > >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> > >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> General Boats is listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the
>> > >>>>> Rhodes
>> > >> 22
>> > >>>> is
>> > >>>>> not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just bringing
>> > >>>>> groceries
>> > >> from
>> > >>>> his
>> > >>>>> new business.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Bob
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> -----
>> > >>>>> Bob Weiss
>> > >>>>> Beach Spring
>> > >>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>> View this message in context:
>> > >>>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Show-tp50906p50919.ht
>> > >>>> ml
>> > >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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