[Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds

[michael meltzer]

Considering my bottom painting just got rained out. What going on here?
Anyone have a summary (no axes to grind please), been following but not
understanding

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 9:28 PM Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:

> I've been on the list probably longer than most. The new admins keep
> bouncing my emails saying my freebie email must be sent as plain text
> instead HTML. I hope this email gets through, because I can't stand Nabble.
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> I'm a nice guy most of the time but I can be quite abrasive at
> times...just ask Roger P (welcome back BTW). And this email will probably
> cost me a few friends here too but I don't care . My 2 cents; which is more
> vinegar than sugar:
>
> I first got on list before we left Sailnet and MJM started this list for
> us Rhodies, so I've been here since before the beginning. Early on I bumped
> heads with Stan and got grilled by a few of the hardcore
> Rhodies...especially Rummy (may he rest in peace). I went off because of
> Stan's reluctance to stop the production line to field my calls and parts
> requests. Stan made a comment to the effect of 'I'm not in the parts
> business so go talk to the guy you bought the boat from. Why should I stop
> trying to make money to help out someone who has never put one dime in my
> pocket?' This is partly the genesis for the Certificate of Support program.
> I had never dealt with a struggling "one-off" organization before, but I
> eventually understood the mindset and now I have to step up and defend Stan.
> I'm sure he'd love to sell his business and finally retire...before he
> turns 100 or reaches his "expiration date". I thought about making him this
> offer--- I wouldn't buy his business or infuse any cash. But I could drive
> down to Edenton bimonthly or so and tell him how to run the business
> better, in exchange for him giving me the business and property in his Will
> or something like that. Unfortunately though...somebody had already made
> him that offer.
>
> CC's endeavor is his own and I wish him luck. But Charles's supportive
> email and choice of phrases are ironic. I'm at a loss to understand how a
> directly competing business, especially one advertising HERE, is supposed
> to put one dime in Stan's pocket?  Is that how you perpetuate a brand? b
> Competing and taking business by soliciting to the list members who've
> supported Stan for so long? I'll stop just short of saying this is Stan's
> list, but we started it to drive interest in the Rhodes 22 and we've
> promoted General Boats with some success.  CC's business may certainly
> propel OUR interests in (your) Stan's invention" but it is certainly not a
> faithful "continuation of the brand"?
>
> I'm sorry if this offends anyone, and I don't want to make enemy of Chris
> or Charles, but this is not the place to be asking for or looking for
> support to cripple the struggling business of the aged Admiral of our fleet.
>
>  Todd Tavares (Todd T.)
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> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:17 PM
> From: "Charles Nieman" <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds
> Stan;
> I would normally not make any public comment in a situation such as this,
> but you have asked. I support what CC is doing and think it actually helps
> to propel our interests in your invention. You have not provided any
> evidence of any solid plan for the continuation of the brand. And while
> your longevity is amazing (but I’m pretty certain you do have an expiration
> date as the rest of us do, if I’m wrong here I applaud you but could you
> please share some insight and some evidence) there needs to be some plan
> for the future. It appears to me that CC is attempting to provide such. He
> therefore will receive the same support from me that you have. I wish both
> endeavors all possible success.
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>
> Charles
> 98 R 22
> s/v DayDreams
> Joe Pool Lake, DFW Texas
>
> > On May 25, 2019, at 4:24 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
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> > For 50 years Rhodes owners have been our sales force and our board of
> directors. So before we submit a book size White Paper response to Chris
> Cowie's "new" business, made clear by the following two emails, we feel we
> should give voice to the cooler collective heads of the List, before a
> declaration of war:
> >
> > "/Hi Chris, /
> >
> > /Rumor (Ted) has it that you may know of used Rhodes 22s for sale
> especially in the Mid Atlantic region. My wife Emily and I are seriously
> hot to trot! Jeff: Contact me//**//via email - we//**//have several
> refurbished Rhodes 22 ready to sail."/
> >
> > If you own, or are thinking of buying a Rhodes, what is happening here
> truly affect your interests. Any and all input from the List will be
> thoughtfully responded to.
> >
> > thanks for hearing,
> > stan
> >
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