[Rhodes22-list] Spring Lines

[Graham Stewart]

Here is the cutaway picture showing the toe rail on my boat. It is hollow but virtually impossible to get access to the underside should you want to attach a cleat with bolts. The fiberglass is quite thick and might take a screw for awhile.

If adding cleats through the deck be advised that there might be a significant space between the liner and the core - at least that seems to be the case with older boats. If so, you would want to use a very substantial backing plate and, if possible, inject a very thick glob of epoxy into the space.


Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:46 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spring Lines

Jay,

I’m confused about your reply.  You say you’re mounting your cleats on the forward jib track, but you also say that the track is bolted to the toe-rail.  My forward jib tracks are mounted to the deck very close to the cabin side (a little too close in fact).  Also, in a discussion not too far back someone (Graham I think) attached a photo showing that the toe-rails on his R22 are hollow, not solid fiberglass.

As to your problem with posting photos, it may have nothing to do with format.  The mail list software apparently doesn’t like the way  that the Mac email client program does attachments.  Perhaps there are other email client programs with similar issues.  

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On Apr 22, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jesse,
> I assume my photos of that got stripped away, I tried attaching them as pdf’s. Any help from da list to format them correctly on that is appreciated.
> 
> My midship cleats are movable on a 1” T-track, same track as the jib cars move on. As any tension is shearing against the mounting screws for the track, I drilled and tapped 1-1/2”x1/4x20’s into the toerail. These were installed when the boat was new 23 years ago, and there has been extreme pressure fairly constantly from April through November storms, up to 4’ rolling waves with heavy tidal swings all through my time in less safe slips. So they are stress tested.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I assume the mid ship cleats may have been added by owners.  My boat does not
>> have any midship cleats so I have used the metal grab rails as Sean
>> mentioned.
>> 
>> Does anyone have photos to show where exactly the midship cleats are
>> installed?   When I installed chocks on my foredeck, I found that it was
>> hard to get to the underside of the toe rail, so I installed the chocks
>> further from the toe rail where I could access the bolts coming through.
>> 
>> I assume a backing plate against the cabin roof would be needed when
>> installing the midship cleats.  If anyone has examples of the mid ship cleat
>> installation that would be good to share.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Rhodes  foredeck removed July 2009 a.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 39426 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20200422/5e601785/attachment.jpg>