[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive

Richard Stott ric at stottarchitecture.com
Wed Aug 26 10:53:23 EDT 2020


Mark
15 HP is a lot of motor. 
Can you show us a pic of where its mounted? 
Any pics of it under the boat? 
Can you share performance and maneuverability with us? 
I’m dying to know more about this. 
A steerable unit is my fantasy but a fixed one might work. 
Ric 
sv Dadventure 
HBNY 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I purchased my 2000 R22 last year and it came with a 15hp Yamaha saildrive.
> I haven't had a chance to use the boat much yet, but it seems like it will
> address many of the issues with an outboard on the transom
> (raising/lowering, keeping the drive underwater).
> 
> Unfortunately the company that made this saildrive is essentially out of
> business. I am concerned about what I'll have to do once this saildrive
> needs a part I can't get or needs a costly repair. I'm not sure I like the
> alternative solutions that involve a motor on the transom. Maybe I need to
> start saving my pennies toward a replacement. Regarding that option, the
> saildrives I've seen tend to have larger engine than mine - often a diesel.
> Mine is essentially a Yamaha (made by Parsun) outboard head so it's not
> very tall. Maybe I'll be lucky and not have to solve the replacement
> problem.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -- 
> Boston, MA
> 
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:14 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Cary
>> My ’84 GB mount broke on spring launch the year and my Yamaha 8 went in
>> the drink.
>> I purchased a motor mount from West marine immediately so I could continue
>> to use the boat with a spare motor I happened to have on hand.
>> Its a stinky smoky ’99 Merc 2 stroke, but it always starts and runs when
>> it need it - well almost always.
>> I talked it over on the list and discussed with Mike Riter a plan to
>> convert the GB mount to be equipped with a threaded gear (his sketch) so
>> that the mont can be moved with a manual crank or an electric motor.
>> This would be huge advantage over the 6/1 tackle it came equipped with.
>> I’ve been enjoying the boat too much to stop and refine that design of
>> Mikes - that’s a winter project.
>> 
>> In any case the parallelogram type mount works fairly well, it has pros
>> and cons.
>> One of the biggest cons is that the moro in the down position is father
>> aft of the transom and will cavitate and lose thrust in larger waves,
>> especially with weight on the bow.
>> I will like the GB system (modified) over the alternative, but the West
>> marine mount was easy to install and serves the immediate need.
>> (What I really want is an electric,  steerable, remote controlled, 20 hp
>> sail drive mounted right behind the keel trunk.)
>> It’s doable for approximately one tone of money.
>> 
>> One way I use the boat is unusual.
>> I moore my boat 50 yards off shore.
>> I use a stand-up paddle board for a tender because it's light and easy to
>> cary to the shore.
>> I then use the motor only, with the rudder up, to back the boat on to the
>> beach to pick up  provisions and of course my wife, who is not one to
>> paddle out to the boat.
>> Depending on the tide and the slope of the beach, I can sometimes put the
>> stern right on the beach.
>> An opening in the stern rail, like the more modern R22s would be a huge
>> asset for picking up passengers from the beach. (next year)
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> stay tuned for ‘motor mount mod’ updates
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> www.stottarchitecture.com <http://www.stottarchitecture.com/>
>> Office  631-283-1777
>> Cell            516-965-3164
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Preview attachment 20200825_174517.jpg
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>>> <
>> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=be1ab8c6c5&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7374969717110164997&th=1742adb6a4937cb8&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=1742adb12d8c3f23bf81
>>> Once
>>> again HELP. Wed. the 25th I was motoring from my slip out on to the lake
>>> and kerplunk. The motor raising part of the boat fell off with the motor
>>> attached and still running. I also had it attached with a s/s chain.
>> Lucky
>>> or not.? ? ? Stan no longer makes the parts for an 86. He said he has
>> long
>>> moved to newer and hopefully better designs. It seems the starboard
>>> material used to let the motor slide in the rails failed. My question is
>>> should I attempt to repair with parts of better materials or buy a
>>> gerneric  system for raising and lowering one's motor . Say something
>> that
>>> would fit a Catalina 22? Looking for advice from the centuries of
>>> experience on the list
>>> Cary Tolbert S/V Whisper '86
>>> Radford, VA
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Boston, MA
> 
> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> 1986 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*



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