[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive

Mark Whipple mark at whipplefamily.com
Wed Aug 26 11:18:04 EDT 2020


Ric,

Here's a few pictures I dug up. I'm currently hunting for a source for the
zincs.

Mark
[image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 03.jpg]
[image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 04.jpg]
[image: Rhodes 22 MA CL 08.jpg]


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On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:53 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
wrote:

> Mark
> 15 HP is a lot of motor.
> Can you show us a pic of where its mounted?
> Any pics of it under the boat?
> Can you share performance and maneuverability with us?
> I’m dying to know more about this.
> A steerable unit is my fantasy but a fixed one might work.
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
> HBNY
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office  631-283-1777
> Cell            516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > I purchased my 2000 R22 last year and it came with a 15hp Yamaha
> saildrive.
> > I haven't had a chance to use the boat much yet, but it seems like it
> will
> > address many of the issues with an outboard on the transom
> > (raising/lowering, keeping the drive underwater).
> >
> > Unfortunately the company that made this saildrive is essentially out of
> > business. I am concerned about what I'll have to do once this saildrive
> > needs a part I can't get or needs a costly repair. I'm not sure I like
> the
> > alternative solutions that involve a motor on the transom. Maybe I need
> to
> > start saving my pennies toward a replacement. Regarding that option, the
> > saildrives I've seen tend to have larger engine than mine - often a
> diesel.
> > Mine is essentially a Yamaha (made by Parsun) outboard head so it's not
> > very tall. Maybe I'll be lucky and not have to solve the replacement
> > problem.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > Boston, MA
> >
> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:14 AM Richard Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Cary
> >> My ’84 GB mount broke on spring launch the year and my Yamaha 8 went in
> >> the drink.
> >> I purchased a motor mount from West marine immediately so I could
> continue
> >> to use the boat with a spare motor I happened to have on hand.
> >> Its a stinky smoky ’99 Merc 2 stroke, but it always starts and runs when
> >> it need it - well almost always.
> >> I talked it over on the list and discussed with Mike Riter a plan to
> >> convert the GB mount to be equipped with a threaded gear (his sketch) so
> >> that the mont can be moved with a manual crank or an electric motor.
> >> This would be huge advantage over the 6/1 tackle it came equipped with.
> >> I’ve been enjoying the boat too much to stop and refine that design of
> >> Mikes - that’s a winter project.
> >>
> >> In any case the parallelogram type mount works fairly well, it has pros
> >> and cons.
> >> One of the biggest cons is that the moro in the down position is father
> >> aft of the transom and will cavitate and lose thrust in larger waves,
> >> especially with weight on the bow.
> >> I will like the GB system (modified) over the alternative, but the West
> >> marine mount was easy to install and serves the immediate need.
> >> (What I really want is an electric,  steerable, remote controlled, 20 hp
> >> sail drive mounted right behind the keel trunk.)
> >> It’s doable for approximately one tone of money.
> >>
> >> One way I use the boat is unusual.
> >> I moore my boat 50 yards off shore.
> >> I use a stand-up paddle board for a tender because it's light and easy
> to
> >> cary to the shore.
> >> I then use the motor only, with the rudder up, to back the boat on to
> the
> >> beach to pick up  provisions and of course my wife, who is not one to
> >> paddle out to the boat.
> >> Depending on the tide and the slope of the beach, I can sometimes put
> the
> >> stern right on the beach.
> >> An opening in the stern rail, like the more modern R22s would be a huge
> >> asset for picking up passengers from the beach. (next year)
> >> Ric
> >> sv Dadventure
> >> stay tuned for ‘motor mount mod’ updates
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >> www.stottarchitecture.com <http://www.stottarchitecture.com/>
> >> Office  631-283-1777
> >> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Preview attachment 20200825_174517.jpg
> >>> 20200825_174517.jpg
> >>> 4 MB
> >>> <
> >>
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=be1ab8c6c5&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7374969717110164997&th=1742adb6a4937cb8&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=1742adb12d8c3f23bf81
> >>> Once
> >>> again HELP. Wed. the 25th I was motoring from my slip out on to the
> lake
> >>> and kerplunk. The motor raising part of the boat fell off with the
> motor
> >>> attached and still running. I also had it attached with a s/s chain.
> >> Lucky
> >>> or not.? ? ? Stan no longer makes the parts for an 86. He said he has
> >> long
> >>> moved to newer and hopefully better designs. It seems the starboard
> >>> material used to let the motor slide in the rails failed. My question
> is
> >>> should I attempt to repair with parts of better materials or buy a
> >>> gerneric  system for raising and lowering one's motor . Say something
> >> that
> >>> would fit a Catalina 22? Looking for advice from the centuries of
> >>> experience on the list
> >>> Cary Tolbert S/V Whisper '86
> >>> Radford, VA
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Boston, MA
> >
> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> > 1986 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
>
>
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