[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive

Wed Aug 26 11:31:49 EDT 2020

Cory - that’s a really interesting install. 
Is 15 HP enough to get on a plane?
It would not work for my needs - it’s too deep.
I would need the prop to be no deeper than the bottom of the keel, and I would mount it in the middle of the cockpit floor, about a foot aft of the end of the keel,  understanding that the motor head (probably electric and smaller than the Yamaha head) would require a low cover above the cockpit floor.  
I would also like it to be a steerable sail drive with a remote. 
Not sure that such a thing is even available. 
Thanks 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:
> 
> Ric,
> 
> Here's a few pictures I dug up. I'm currently hunting for a source for the
> zincs.
> 
> Mark
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> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:53 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Mark
>> 15 HP is a lot of motor.
>> Can you show us a pic of where its mounted?
>> Any pics of it under the boat?
>> Can you share performance and maneuverability with us?
>> I’m dying to know more about this.
>> A steerable unit is my fantasy but a fixed one might work.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> HBNY
>> 
>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>> Office  631-283-1777
>> Cell            516-965-3164
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> 
>>> I purchased my 2000 R22 last year and it came with a 15hp Yamaha
>> saildrive.
>>> I haven't had a chance to use the boat much yet, but it seems like it
>> will
>>> address many of the issues with an outboard on the transom
>>> (raising/lowering, keeping the drive underwater).
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the company that made this saildrive is essentially out of
>>> business. I am concerned about what I'll have to do once this saildrive
>>> needs a part I can't get or needs a costly repair. I'm not sure I like
>> the
>>> alternative solutions that involve a motor on the transom. Maybe I need
>> to
>>> start saving my pennies toward a replacement. Regarding that option, the
>>> saildrives I've seen tend to have larger engine than mine - often a
>> diesel.
>>> Mine is essentially a Yamaha (made by Parsun) outboard head so it's not
>>> very tall. Maybe I'll be lucky and not have to solve the replacement
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Boston, MA
>>> 
>>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
>>> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
>>> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:14 AM Richard Stott <
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Cary
>>>> My ’84 GB mount broke on spring launch the year and my Yamaha 8 went in
>>>> the drink.
>>>> I purchased a motor mount from West marine immediately so I could
>> continue
>>>> to use the boat with a spare motor I happened to have on hand.
>>>> Its a stinky smoky ’99 Merc 2 stroke, but it always starts and runs when
>>>> it need it - well almost always.
>>>> I talked it over on the list and discussed with Mike Riter a plan to
>>>> convert the GB mount to be equipped with a threaded gear (his sketch) so
>>>> that the mont can be moved with a manual crank or an electric motor.
>>>> This would be huge advantage over the 6/1 tackle it came equipped with.
>>>> I’ve been enjoying the boat too much to stop and refine that design of
>>>> Mikes - that’s a winter project.
>>>> 
>>>> In any case the parallelogram type mount works fairly well, it has pros
>>>> and cons.
>>>> One of the biggest cons is that the moro in the down position is father
>>>> aft of the transom and will cavitate and lose thrust in larger waves,
>>>> especially with weight on the bow.
>>>> I will like the GB system (modified) over the alternative, but the West
>>>> marine mount was easy to install and serves the immediate need.
>>>> (What I really want is an electric,  steerable, remote controlled, 20 hp
>>>> sail drive mounted right behind the keel trunk.)
>>>> It’s doable for approximately one tone of money.
>>>> 
>>>> One way I use the boat is unusual.
>>>> I moore my boat 50 yards off shore.
>>>> I use a stand-up paddle board for a tender because it's light and easy
>> to
>>>> cary to the shore.
>>>> I then use the motor only, with the rudder up, to back the boat on to
>> the
>>>> beach to pick up  provisions and of course my wife, who is not one to
>>>> paddle out to the boat.
>>>> Depending on the tide and the slope of the beach, I can sometimes put
>> the
>>>> stern right on the beach.
>>>> An opening in the stern rail, like the more modern R22s would be a huge
>>>> asset for picking up passengers from the beach. (next year)
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> stay tuned for ‘motor mount mod’ updates
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com <http://www.stottarchitecture.com/>
>>>> Office  631-283-1777
>>>> Cell            516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Once
>>>>> again HELP. Wed. the 25th I was motoring from my slip out on to the
>> lake
>>>>> and kerplunk. The motor raising part of the boat fell off with the
>> motor
>>>>> attached and still running. I also had it attached with a s/s chain.
>>>> Lucky
>>>>> or not.? ? ? Stan no longer makes the parts for an 86. He said he has
>>>> long
>>>>> moved to newer and hopefully better designs. It seems the starboard
>>>>> material used to let the motor slide in the rails failed. My question
>> is
>>>>> should I attempt to repair with parts of better materials or buy a
>>>>> gerneric  system for raising and lowering one's motor . Say something
>>>> that
>>>>> would fit a Catalina 22? Looking for advice from the centuries of
>>>>> experience on the list
>>>>> Cary Tolbert S/V Whisper '86
>>>>> Radford, VA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Boston, MA
>>> 
>>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
>>> 1986 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
>>> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
>> 
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