[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive

[Mark Whipple]

Hi Stephen,

Yes, that's my boat. Was the club where you saw it really in Everett? I
can't find any boat clubs in Everett. I'd like to know more about the
history of the boat. The guy I bought it from acquired it from a boat club
and then moored it in Quincy Bay, so it's certainly the same boat. I'll
know better how it sails after next month.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:00 PM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Do you also have wheel steering & a self tending jib?  Is so, I know the
> boat. I looked at it a number of years ago when it was being sold by a club
> in Everett, MA & then it turned up a few years later on a mooring next to
> me at Squantum Yacht Club in Quincy. Are you floating?  I never got to sail
> it & am curious how it handles.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:44 AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> >
> >
> > I purchased my 2000 R22 last year and it came with a 15hp Yamaha
> saildrive.
> >
> > I haven't had a chance to use the boat much yet, but it seems like it
> will
> >
> > address many of the issues with an outboard on the transom
> >
> > (raising/lowering, keeping the drive underwater).
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately the company that made this saildrive is essentially out of
> >
> > business. I am concerned about what I'll have to do once this saildrive
> >
> > needs a part I can't get or needs a costly repair. I'm not sure I like
> the
> >
> > alternative solutions that involve a motor on the transom. Maybe I need
> to
> >
> > start saving my pennies toward a replacement. Regarding that option, the
> >
> > saildrives I've seen tend to have larger engine than mine - often a
> diesel.
> >
> > Mine is essentially a Yamaha (made by Parsun) outboard head so it's not
> >
> > very tall. Maybe I'll be lucky and not have to solve the replacement
> >
> > problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Boston, MA
> >
> >
> >
> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> >
> > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> >
> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:14 AM Richard Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Cary
> >
> > > My ’84 GB mount broke on spring launch the year and my Yamaha 8 went in
> >
> > > the drink.
> >
> > > I purchased a motor mount from West marine immediately so I could
> > continue
> >
> > > to use the boat with a spare motor I happened to have on hand.
> >
> > > Its a stinky smoky ’99 Merc 2 stroke, but it always starts and runs
> when
> >
> > > it need it - well almost always.
> >
> > > I talked it over on the list and discussed with Mike Riter a plan to
> >
> > > convert the GB mount to be equipped with a threaded gear (his sketch)
> so
> >
> > > that the mont can be moved with a manual crank or an electric motor.
> >
> > > This would be huge advantage over the 6/1 tackle it came equipped with.
> >
> > > I’ve been enjoying the boat too much to stop and refine that design of
> >
> > > Mikes - that’s a winter project.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > In any case the parallelogram type mount works fairly well, it has pros
> >
> > > and cons.
> >
> > > One of the biggest cons is that the moro in the down position is father
> >
> > > aft of the transom and will cavitate and lose thrust in larger waves,
> >
> > > especially with weight on the bow.
> >
> > > I will like the GB system (modified) over the alternative, but the West
> >
> > > marine mount was easy to install and serves the immediate need.
> >
> > > (What I really want is an electric,  steerable, remote controlled, 20
> hp
> >
> > > sail drive mounted right behind the keel trunk.)
> >
> > > It’s doable for approximately one tone of money.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > One way I use the boat is unusual.
> >
> > > I moore my boat 50 yards off shore.
> >
> > > I use a stand-up paddle board for a tender because it's light and easy
> to
> >
> > > cary to the shore.
> >
> > > I then use the motor only, with the rudder up, to back the boat on to
> the
> >
> > > beach to pick up  provisions and of course my wife, who is not one to
> >
> > > paddle out to the boat.
> >
> > > Depending on the tide and the slope of the beach, I can sometimes put
> the
> >
> > > stern right on the beach.
> >
> > > An opening in the stern rail, like the more modern R22s would be a huge
> >
> > > asset for picking up passengers from the beach. (next year)
> >
> > > Ric
> >
> > > sv Dadventure
> >
> > > stay tuned for ‘motor mount mod’ updates
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >
> > > www.stottarchitecture.com <http://www.stottarchitecture.com/>
> >
> > > Office  631-283-1777
> >
> > > Cell            516-965-3164
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Preview attachment 20200825_174517.jpg
> >
> > > > 20200825_174517.jpg
> >
> > > > 4 MB
> >
> > > > <
> >
> > >
> >
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=be1ab8c6c5&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7374969717110164997&th=1742adb6a4937cb8&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=1742adb12d8c3f23bf81
> >
> > > >Once
> >
> > > > again HELP. Wed. the 25th I was motoring from my slip out on to the
> > lake
> >
> > > > and kerplunk. The motor raising part of the boat fell off with the
> > motor
> >
> > > > attached and still running. I also had it attached with a s/s chain.
> >
> > > Lucky
> >
> > > > or not.? ? ? Stan no longer makes the parts for an 86. He said he has
> >
> > > long
> >
> > > > moved to newer and hopefully better designs. It seems the starboard
> >
> > > > material used to let the motor slide in the rails failed. My question
> > is
> >
> > > > should I attempt to repair with parts of better materials or buy a
> >
> > > > gerneric  system for raising and lowering one's motor . Say something
> >
> > > that
> >
> > > > would fit a Catalina 22? Looking for advice from the centuries of
> >
> > > > experience on the list
> >
> > > > Cary Tolbert S/V Whisper '86
> >
> > > > Radford, VA
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Boston, MA
> >
> >
> >
> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> >
> > 1986 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> >
> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >
> > --
> Stephen Staum
> Pariser Industries, Inc.
>