[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: How to: A Trouble-free Furling Main | Sail Magazine

[Jesse Shumaker]

Chris, thanks for the info.  As you mentioned, the convenience of the IMF
makes a big difference.  I think that's one of the reasons my wife likes
the R22.  I consider myself lucky that my wife likes to go sailing since
there are a number of people at our local club where their significant
other doesn't have an interest in spending time on their boat and considers
sailing to be too much of a hassle.

Good luck with the winter plans.  For so many reasons, hopefully things
improve sooner rather than later regarding the pandemic.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:15 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes Jesse,
>   On the Catalina, the sail is cut differently than on the Rhodes a bit,
> and no vertical battens so no real roach.  That being said, one of the main
> reasons that we went with this particular boat was the IMF.  For our use
> and lifestyle, the slight loss of a bit of speed, matters not.  Furling
> both in and out is done with a manual winch on a port tack.  Sometimes it
> is reluctant to unfurl as it picks up a wrinkle or two and requires me to
> go forward and shake it out.  The sail is old and has been recut a bit
> (lost a foot of the leach due to sun damage).  So we have 43 sq. ft. less
> sail area than a regular main.  Going to get a new sail soon which
> I understand will not have this problem.  Just like on the Rhodes, we don't
> fall into the trap of waiting too long to reef in hopes the squall will go
> away.  We reef before it is too late and that is a real plus safety wise.
> Not sure what we are going to do this winter as the Bahamas has closed
> their country to all American vessels (and planes)........a wise precaution
> considering the situation here in the U.S.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> S?V ENOSIS
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:20 AM Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Chris, one thing that I've noticed about IMF on larger boats is that the
> > foot does not appear to be horizontal.  Instead it appears to be cut a
> bit
> > like jib in that the clue is higher than the tack.  I assume that might
> be
> > so that the foot doesn't bunch up on top of itself as it furls so it
> > doesn't take up too much room in the mast.  As a result of this it
> appears
> > that the boom is always at an angle for the IMF on larger boats.  On your
> > Catalina, do you furl it by hand, does it require a winch or is there an
> > electric winch?  Overall, do you like the IMF on the larger boat as well?
> >
> > One other note, does the IMF on the R22 require any maintenance such as
> > lubrication?
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:24 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yup,  Have used both and let me tell you the R22 furles a lot easier! I
> > > think about it every time I furl the big one on the Catalina.  I do
> miss
> > my
> > > Rhodes.  Just paid the insurance on it even though I am not sailing it
> > > (required) but it is so cheap I don't mind.  One of the reasons I spent
> > so
> > > much money (more than I paid for the boat) to ship it over to Greece
> was
> > > because of the IMF.  Thanks again to Stan for coming up with this
> > > marvelous feature!
> > >
> > > Chris Geankoplis
> > > SV ENOSIS
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:30 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > >
> > > > The R22 IMF furls in the opposite direction as the illustration
> > depicting
> > > > the Selden furling shown in the article.  There is a vertical batten
> > that
> > > > is inserted into the UV resistant portion of the sail, which is the
> > thick
> > > > colored section that sticks out when the sail is fully furled.
> > Forgoing
> > > > battens on the rest of the main seems to the price you pay in terms
> of
> > > > performance in exchange for the big benefits in terms of ease of
> using
> > > > IMF.  Horizontal battens are reserved for mains that hoist in the
> > > > traditional manner, or perhaps they could also be used on boom roller
> > > > furling, which seems to be less common than IMF.   I've not heard of
> > > anyone
> > > > else adding additional vertical battens and I'm not sure the mast
> would
> > > be
> > > > large enough to accommodate the extra size of a furled sail including
> > > > vertical battens.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't yet sailed on a larger boat with IMF, but people who have
> > used
> > > > those and then come on my R22 seem to be surprised about the ability
> to
> > > > raise and lower the entire system (boom and mainsail) with the pin
> > going
> > > > through the gooseneck to the mast.  I suppose that's not an option
> on a
> > > > larger boat because of the extra weight.  It is nice to have a high
> > boom
> > > > normally for plenty of room in the cockpit and to catch the most wind
> > up
> > > > high, but then be able to lower it quickly in stronger conditions.
> > > > Lowering the center of effort reduces heeling.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Chris G. could provide some perspectives on IMF for the R22
> vs. a
> > > > larger boat since he also has a Catalina 38(?) with IMF.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Shumaker
> > > > S/V Zephyr
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:39 PM Tom Van Heule <
> > > > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, I came across this article today - and was searching in the
> > > archives
> > > > > for any details - lots of talk on the IMF, but nothing explaining
> the
> > > > > system (that I have found!).  Aside, Is anyone using battens?
> > vertical
> > > or
> > > > > horizontal?    Is the GBI system similar/different from the Selden
> > > > > description?
> > > > >
> https://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/how-to-a-trouble-free-furling-main
> > > > >
> > > > > It was a nice read to hear some support for IMF in either case.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tom Van Heule
> > > > > Intrinsic Programs
> > > > > tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
> > > > > +1 303 525 5266
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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