[Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

Mon Jun 22 09:09:38 EDT 2020

Alexis,
Glad to hear you are repaired and on the water.  Let the sailing season begin!  So it cost you a thousand and you learned  a valuable lesson.  Sometimes that's not a bad deal.  It is a boat after all. - rob

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Alexis Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:10 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

To follow up on my failed launch last month, I got my boat repaired at the
marina and ended up paying $1080. Not too bad. Picture of the repair
attached.

I launched the boat yesterday and it all went smoothly. I opened the cover
of the bilge fully to empty the remaining water and check for leaks, and
it’s all good now. I was a bit worried that the centerboard trunk cap had
been damaged, but it’s in perfect shape.

The sailing season starts now!

Alexis

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:01 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Alexis,
> Cool, those tires look adequate.  The reason I ask is I had never paid any
> attention to my trailer tires, I just assumed they were adequate.  One day
> I'm in the midst of taking my boat to the lake and I'm in a parking lot.  I
> happened to look in my side mirror at the boat and noticed the trailer tire
> was split right now the middle of the tread and what looked like an inner
> tube was visible!  Upon further inspection I discovered the tires were
> standard automotive tires and not adequate for a trailer.  I didn't have a
> spare tire with me.  I ended up leaving the boat where it was and came back
> with a jack and stands.  I took both tires off and took them to be replace
> with trailer tires.  So now I pay attention to trailer tires. - rob
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Alexis Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:40 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> Thanks, Rob.
>
> The previous owner had done a good job keeping the boat in good shape.
> It’s all on my shoulders now...
>
> The tires I used are Carlisle Sport Trail ST 225/75D15 LRD. I believe this
> is what was originally used on the trailer, and the load range (D) should
> be adequate.
>
> And you’re right, I don’t have the mast crutch and raising system on the
> boat. I use wood supports to hold the mast in place when trailering, and I
> keep the other accessories inside the cabin. I feel like the mast is more
> solidly held in place this way.
>
> Good to know about welding brackets on the trailer. I don’t think I am
> going to have to do that this time but I will keep that in mind for the
> future.
> Alexis
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:51:08 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> Alexis,
> Nice looking boat.  Hope you get her repaired and splashed soon.
>
> I had similar problems with my bunks and ended up replacing all of them.
> I also had to have a couple of the metal support pieces re welded.  If you
> need to go that route, make sure they are welded vertically.  They welded
> mine on perpendicular to the frame which made them too close together.
> This was for the keel guide boards and I could not get the boat loaded as
> the keel would not slide it.  I ended up replacing the 2X guide boards with
> 1X which gave me sufficient room.
>
> What type of tires did you put on the trailer?  I hope trailer tires,
> automobile tires do not have the weight capacity you will need.  Good time
> to take a look.
>
> I notice you do not have the mast crutch.  How about the mast raising
> system?  A word from experience, when you raise the mast you'll want to get
> the aft end of it much higher up in the air before you raise.  Good luck! -
> rob
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Alexis Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:20 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> My trailer is a single-axle Triad trailer. All the galvanized steel is in
> good shape. It’s just the wood that was probably too old, and the screws
> came off.
>
> I am attaching a picture of the bracket that ended up sticking out. It’s
> the little one, on the inside bunk, not the outside one.
>
> And yes, you can see I had a flat tire. I am not being very lucky this
> year... I did replace both tires as they were from 2007, which - I also
> learned the hard way - is past age.
>
> Regarding the rollers, I think my trailer only has one at the aft end. I
> think it supports the centerboard but nothing else.
>
> Alexis
>
> [Image.jpeg]
>
> [Image.jpeg]
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:26:47 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> I actually carry a roll of Flex Tape (as seen on TV holding a boat
> together)
> purchased from Home Depot:
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-SEAL-FAMILY-OF-PRODUCTS-Flex-Tape-Black-4-i
> n-x-5-ft-Strong-Rubberized-Waterproof-Tape-TFSBLKR0405/302634866
> <https://www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-SEAL-FAMILY-OF-PRODUCTS-Flex-Tape-Black-4-in-x-5-ft-Strong-Rubberized-Waterproof-Tape-TFSBLKR0405/302634866>
>
> The commercial also shows the tape's waterproof property by patching a hole
> in an aquarium FROM THE INSIDE, not really useful for a hole in a boat, I
> would think.
>
> I found an investigative report that seems to validate the commercial claim
> at:
>
> https://www.insideedition.com/investigative/25621-are-the-commercials-hyped-
> up-investigation-tests-whether-flex-tape-can-hold-a-boat-together
> <https://www.insideedition.com/investigative/25621-are-the-commercials-hyped-up-investigation-tests-whether-flex-tape-can-hold-a-boat-together>
>
> Hopefully, I will never need to use it.  According to my "friend", Mr.
> Murphy, in the unlikely event that I will need the tape, the adhesive will
> probably be dried out!
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I'd rather be sailing :~)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Lowe,
> Rob
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:07 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> Not that I'm planning on holing my boat, but I wonder if any boaters carry
> tape that could be applied to a hole like this underwater? - rob
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Intertape-Polymer-Group-3-in-x-5-yds-VersaTape-U
> nderwater-Tape-99688/206300616
> <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Intertape-Polymer-Group-3-in-x-5-yds-VersaTape-Underwater-Tape-99688/206300616>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Alexis
> Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> I am quite impressed most of you are recommending for me to do the repair
> myself! I have watched countless hours of Boatworks Today and Sail Life
> videos, so I kind of know the steps for this repair, but I wasn't feeling
> like it was a good first project for a fiberglass repair. It's structural
> and under the water line, so definitely needs to be done right. I will
> think
> about it and we'll see what I decide!
>
> Thanks all,
> Alexis
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Hank
> <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:29:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure
>
> I also didn't have the benefit of all of the youtube videos now available
> to
> show folks how to do things when I did my first fiberglass repair.  Much
> easier to be a DIYer these days.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:00 AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree that fiberglass work is not difficult, but I would also
> > suggest that repairing a hole below the waterline may not be the best
> > first-time project. It would be great, though, if you could find
> > someone to give you a hand like Hank was able to that would be idea.
> > FWIW I would recommend Allan H. Vaites Fiberglass Repair Manual <
> > https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0071569146?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag
> > =1ba00-01000-org00-mac00-other-smile-us000-pcomp-feature-scomp-wm-5&re
> > f=aa_scomp
> > >
> > .
> >
> > Mark Whipple
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:14 AM Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This is definitely true. I had some fiberglass issues on another
> > > boat
> > that
> > > I used to own and was gonna have the yard do it.Instead one of the
> > > other guys in the marina showed me that it wasn't that hard to do
> > > and I did it myself.  Very satisfying and glad I was a able to learn
> > > these skills.  If you are at all handy you can probly do this yourself
> as well.
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 10, 2020, 05:39 JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fiberglass work is fairly easy, if you have the time and access to
> > > > the boat.
> > > > Check out some YouTube videos and figure out whether you have the
> > skills
> > > > and
> > > > patience.  You probably do.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Jeff Smith
> > > > 2009 R22 #101 RADIANT
> > > > Atlantic Highlands Municpal Harbor Atlantic Highlands, NJ
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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