[Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
Steven Alm
stevenalm at gmail.com
Mon Nov 23 13:59:34 EST 2020
Did my post with photos come through?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ric.
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ric.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ric,
>>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
>>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the
>>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There
>>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
>>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do.
>>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
>>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white
>>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull.
>>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer.
>>> (This is my second attempt. First one with three pics was too large, so
>>> I'll send separately.)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ric,
>>>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
>>>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted to the
>>>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside. There
>>>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
>>>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts do.
>>>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
>>>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white
>>>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the hull.
>>>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra spacer.
>>>> Hope my pics come through:
>>>>
>>>> "Slim"
>>>> Fandango
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:00 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steven
>>>>> I’m glad my pics came through.
>>>>> Yours a looks more like Cary’s than mine.
>>>>> You both have have plastic outside of the U channel.
>>>>> I think mine rails are screwed to the transom using screws from the
>>>>> laz, that is, the inside of the transom - directly into the plastic strips
>>>>> on the inside of my rails.
>>>>> I have a 1/2 plastic running vertical on the inside of each U channel.
>>>>> The StarBoard or whatever that is, decreases the dept of the u channel
>>>>> by 1/2”, so there is only a 1/2” channel to hold the motor on the boat.
>>>>> The mount and transom was very weak in the area and the whole transom
>>>>> flexed - even in the area the rails attached, which hold have stiffened it
>>>>> vertically at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like your set up better and will move in that direction.
>>>>> It appears that your Plastic strips are screwed into the transom at
>>>>> like- 3” o.c.
>>>>> The material looks to be about 3/4’ x 1” - can you confirm that for
>>>>> me?
>>>>> Are those thru bolts?
>>>>> What is the backing behind the transom?
>>>>> How are the U channels fastened to the Plastic strips on each side?
>>>>> Thanks - that’s alotta questions.
>>>>> Ric Dadventure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks Steven. It does look similar to my tracks. Less secure than I
>>>>> would
>>>>> > have thought. Your track looks to be longer than my set up.
>>>>> > Thanks again for the help.
>>>>> > Cary
>>>>> > S/V Whisper
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:56 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> My boat is a 1990 but probably similar vintage motor lift. The
>>>>> stopper is
>>>>> >> only on the starboard side track with is longer than the port side.
>>>>> It is
>>>>> >> not through-bolted to the transom and just unscrews. The bolt is
>>>>> covered
>>>>> >> with a plastic or composite bushing.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:11 AM Richard Stott <
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Nabble is a PITA
>>>>> >>> Here are some pics.
>>>>> >>> Westmarine mount is temporary.
>>>>> >>> The GB 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" rails are 11 7/8” apart - out to out.
>>>>> >>> My new rails will extend past the useless rub rail.
>>>>> >>> But -They will not extend past the top of the transom.
>>>>> >>> It will be manual.
>>>>> >>> The stops are simple 1/4” aluminum bolts at the bottom of the
>>>>> rails.
>>>>> >>> More to follow
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> >>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> >>> Office 631-283-1777
>>>>> >>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Thanks Rob
>>>>> >>>> There is a good reason for asking questions. The more brains the
>>>>> >> better.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 8:32 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Cary,
>>>>> >>>>> I don't believe grease on the tracks would be a good idea. Any
>>>>> grease
>>>>> >>>>> would attract and hold dirt, which will just add to the wear. I
>>>>> >> think a
>>>>> >>>>> spray lubricant such as Sailcoat would be the most you would
>>>>> want to
>>>>> >>> use. -
>>>>> >>>>> Rob
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>>>> behalf of
>>>>> >>>>> Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:07 PM
>>>>> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thanks Ric. You mentioned, from your survey, that we had the same
>>>>> >> mount.
>>>>> >>>>> The pictures would be really great. If you could give me the
>>>>> >>>>> dimensions that would put me in business.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> While I am at it, I have one more question for those on da List.
>>>>> Does
>>>>> >>>>> anyone have experience with silicone dielectric grease as
>>>>> lubricant
>>>>> >> on a
>>>>> >>>>> track. I am thinking of the rails of the motor lift.
>>>>> >>>>> Cary
>>>>> >>>>> Whisper
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM Ric Stott <
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Cory
>>>>> >>>>>> The pics I see of the red boat has a motor mount a grade level
>>>>> up
>>>>> >> from
>>>>> >>>>>> mine. My aluminum rails are attached directly to the hull.
>>>>> There is
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >>>>>> Delrin (I think) strip that runs on the inside of the channel,
>>>>> bottom
>>>>> >>> to
>>>>> >>>>>> top. I took some pics and will send them out on Monday if I can.
>>>>> >>>>>> Ric
>>>>> >>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> The minute I get off the waiting list at your marina I'll
>>>>> pull the
>>>>> >>>>>> trigger
>>>>> >>>>>>> on getting a recycled one from Stan.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Cary Tolbert <
>>>>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Lee. Your boat looks like it was upgraded in its
>>>>> life. That
>>>>> >>>>>> system
>>>>> >>>>>>>> is much newer and a better thought out system than the one on
>>>>> my
>>>>> >> 86.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob's 90 something has something similar for his 9.9 hp with
>>>>> all
>>>>> >>>>>> electrical
>>>>> >>>>>>>> controls.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any luck on tracking down your Rhodes 22 to be?
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cary
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't know if any of the attached of my former 1986 AT EASE
>>>>> will
>>>>> >>>>> help.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Might need to enlarge. Seems like a variety of stops might
>>>>> work.
>>>>> >>>>> Good
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> luck!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lee
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No Boat Yet
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Claytor Lake, VA
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cary Tolbert <
>>>>> >>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am asking for help with photos for an 86 Rhodes. My boat
>>>>> was
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> apparently hit
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in the marina and I have a damaged motor mount. I was able
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>> salvage
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> most
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of the damaged parts and replicate them from existing
>>>>> patterns of
>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>> old
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, the LOWER STOPS were missing. So at this point I
>>>>> have no
>>>>> >>>>> idea
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need to do to replicate these parts. Photos will be very
>>>>> >> helpful.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Measurement would also be greatly appreciated. I am
>>>>> guessing any
>>>>> >>>>> boat
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> an 82 to an 89 may have a very similar set up. Ric I am
>>>>> glad you
>>>>> >>>>> can
>>>>> >>>>>>>> now
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> send pictures with your computer. You mentioned that we
>>>>> have the
>>>>> >>>>> same
>>>>> >>>>>>>> set
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> up. What type of material did Stan use for the stops? Stan
>>>>> said,
>>>>> >>> he
>>>>> >>>>>> no
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> longer makes this type of mount and cannot furnish parts.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> >> must
>>>>> >>>>>>>> rely
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> on
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> your help and my modest skills to be able to sail next
>>>>> season.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It must have been a lot of force on the collision as I found
>>>>> >> three
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1/4
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> inch stainless steel bolts bent to 90 degrees and one bolt
>>>>> was
>>>>> >>>>> sheared
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> into
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> two pieces.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cary Tolbert
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S/V Whisper "86
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Radford, VA
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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