[Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount

[Tom Van Heule]

Yup

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 1:00 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did my post with photos come through?
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ric.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ric.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ric,
> >>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
> >>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted
> to the
> >>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside.
> There
> >>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
> >>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side bolts
> do.
> >>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
> >>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or white
> >>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the
> hull.
> >>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra
> spacer.
> >>> (This is my second attempt. First one with three pics was too large, so
> >>> I'll send separately.)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ric,
> >>>> My aluminum tracks are screwed into the sides of the black plastic,
> >>>> Starboard, or whatever it is and the black strips are through-bolted
> to the
> >>>> transom. The through-bolts just have washers and nuts on the inside.
> There
> >>>> are two wooden backing supports on the inside but the bolts on the
> >>>> starboard track do not go through the support, but the port side
> bolts do.
> >>>> The black strips are 1" wide and 2" thick. If you look closely at the
> >>>> picture you'll see the starboard side strip has an extra clear or
> white
> >>>> strip of plastic spacer sandwiched between the black strip and the
> hull.
> >>>> It's 1" wide and 3/8" thick. The port side does not have that extra
> spacer.
> >>>> Hope my pics come through:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Slim"
> >>>> Fandango
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:00 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Steven
> >>>>> I’m glad my pics came through.
> >>>>> Yours a looks more like Cary’s than mine.
> >>>>> You both have have plastic outside of the U channel.
> >>>>> I think mine rails are screwed to the transom using screws from the
> >>>>> laz, that is, the inside of the transom - directly into the plastic
> strips
> >>>>> on the inside of my rails.
> >>>>> I have a 1/2 plastic running vertical on the inside of each U
> channel.
> >>>>> The StarBoard or whatever that is, decreases the dept of the u
> channel
> >>>>> by 1/2”, so there is only a 1/2” channel to hold the motor on the
> boat.
> >>>>> The mount and transom was very weak in the area and the whole transom
> >>>>> flexed - even in the area the rails attached, which hold have
> stiffened it
> >>>>> vertically at least.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like your set up better and will move in that direction.
> >>>>> It appears that your Plastic strips are screwed into the transom at
> >>>>> like- 3” o.c.
> >>>>> The material looks to be about 3/4’ x 1” - can you confirm that for
> >>>>> me?
> >>>>> Are those thru bolts?
> >>>>> What is the backing behind the transom?
> >>>>> How are the U channels fastened to the Plastic strips on each side?
> >>>>> Thanks - that’s alotta questions.
> >>>>> Ric Dadventure
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
> >>>>> Office  631-283-1777
> >>>>> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks Steven. It does look similar to my tracks. Less secure than
> I
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> > have thought.  Your track looks to be longer than my set up.
> >>>>> > Thanks again for the help.
> >>>>> > Cary
> >>>>> > S/V Whisper
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:56 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> My boat is a 1990 but probably similar vintage motor lift. The
> >>>>> stopper is
> >>>>> >> only on the starboard side track with is longer than the port
> side.
> >>>>> It is
> >>>>> >> not through-bolted to the transom and just unscrews. The bolt is
> >>>>> covered
> >>>>> >> with a plastic or composite bushing.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:11 AM Richard Stott <
> >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> >>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> Nabble is a PITA
> >>>>> >>> Here are some pics.
> >>>>> >>> Westmarine mount is temporary.
> >>>>> >>> The GB 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" rails are 11 7/8” apart - out to out.
> >>>>> >>> My new rails will extend past the useless rub rail.
> >>>>> >>> But -They will not extend past the top of the transom.
> >>>>> >>> It will be manual.
> >>>>> >>> The stops are simple 1/4” aluminum bolts at the bottom of the
> >>>>> rails.
> >>>>> >>> More to follow
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >>>>> >>> www.stottarchitecture.com
> >>>>> >>> Office  631-283-1777
> >>>>> >>> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Cary Tolbert <
> retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Thanks Rob
> >>>>> >>>> There is a good reason for asking questions.  The more brains
> the
> >>>>> >> better.
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 8:32 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> Cary,
> >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe grease on the tracks would be a good idea.  Any
> >>>>> grease
> >>>>> >>>>> would attract and hold dirt, which will just add to the wear.
> I
> >>>>> >> think a
> >>>>> >>>>> spray lubricant such as Sailcoat would be the most you would
> >>>>> want to
> >>>>> >>> use. -
> >>>>> >>>>> Rob
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> >>>>> behalf of
> >>>>> >>>>> Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:07 PM
> >>>>> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Ric. You mentioned, from your survey, that we had the
> same
> >>>>> >> mount.
> >>>>> >>>>> The pictures would be really great. If you could give me the
> >>>>> >>>>> dimensions that would put me in business.
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> While I am at it, I have one more question for those on da
> List.
> >>>>> Does
> >>>>> >>>>> anyone have experience with silicone dielectric grease as
> >>>>> lubricant
> >>>>> >> on a
> >>>>> >>>>> track. I am thinking of  the rails of the motor lift.
> >>>>> >>>>> Cary
> >>>>> >>>>> Whisper
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM Ric Stott <
> >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> >>>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> Cory
> >>>>> >>>>>> The pics I see of the red boat has a motor mount a grade level
> >>>>> up
> >>>>> >> from
> >>>>> >>>>>> mine.  My aluminum rails are attached directly to the hull.
> >>>>> There is
> >>>>> >> a
> >>>>> >>>>>> Delrin (I think) strip that runs on the inside of the channel,
> >>>>> bottom
> >>>>> >>> to
> >>>>> >>>>>> top. I took some pics and will send them out on Monday if I
> can.
> >>>>> >>>>>> Ric
> >>>>> >>>>>> Dadventure
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>> The minute I get off the waiting list at your marina I'll
> >>>>> pull the
> >>>>> >>>>>> trigger
> >>>>> >>>>>>> on getting a recycled one from Stan.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Cary Tolbert <
> >>>>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Lee. Your boat looks like it was upgraded in its
> >>>>> life. That
> >>>>> >>>>>> system
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> is much newer and a better thought out system than the one
> on
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> >> 86.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob's 90 something has something similar for his 9.9 hp with
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> >>>>>> electrical
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> controls.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Any luck on tracking down your Rhodes 22 to be?
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Cary
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Lee Kuhn <
> lvjkuhn at gmail.com
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary,
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't know if any of the attached of my former 1986 AT EASE
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> >>>>> help.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Might need to enlarge.  Seems like a variety of stops might
> >>>>> work.
> >>>>> >>>>> Good
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> luck!
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lee
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> No Boat Yet
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Claytor Lake, VA
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cary Tolbert <
> >>>>> >>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am asking for help with photos for an 86 Rhodes.  My
> boat
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> apparently hit
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in the marina and I have a damaged motor mount. I was able
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> >>>>> salvage
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> most
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of the damaged parts and replicate them from existing
> >>>>> patterns of
> >>>>> >>>>> the
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> old
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> parts.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, the LOWER STOPS were missing. So at this point I
> >>>>> have no
> >>>>> >>>>> idea
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need to do to replicate these parts. Photos will be very
> >>>>> >> helpful.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Measurement would also be greatly appreciated. I am
> >>>>> guessing any
> >>>>> >>>>> boat
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> an 82 to an 89 may have a very similar set up.  Ric I am
> >>>>> glad you
> >>>>> >>>>> can
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> now
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> send pictures with your computer. You mentioned that we
> >>>>> have the
> >>>>> >>>>> same
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> set
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> up. What type of material did Stan use for the stops?
> Stan
> >>>>> said,
> >>>>> >>> he
> >>>>> >>>>>> no
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> longer makes this type of mount and cannot furnish parts.
> >>>>> So I
> >>>>> >> must
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> rely
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> your help and my modest skills to be able to sail next
> >>>>> season.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It must have been a lot of force on the collision as I
> found
> >>>>> >> three
> >>>>> >>>>>>>> 1/4
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> inch stainless steel bolts bent to 90 degrees and one bolt
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> >>>>> sheared
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> two pieces.
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cary Tolbert
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S/V Whisper "86
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Radford, VA
> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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