[Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle

[Cary Tolbert]

Got it Ric
 Very nice, wish I were there.
Cary
S/V Whisper "86

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:14 PM Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see a beautiful sunset, Ric.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
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> > This is an experiment.
> > I have not been able to send attachments using my mac mail - ever.
> > I have logged on to gmail and I'm replying from gmail.
> > I'm attaching a photo to see if it goes through.
> > LMK
> > Ric
> > Dadventure
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> > www.stottarchitecture.com
> > Office 631-283-1777
> > Cell 516-965-3164
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the quick responses, links to articles and details of your
> > experiences removing "the devil's glue."  It really helps to have the
> > collective knowledge and research of the group!
> >
> > I ordered some Marine Formula DeBond and a razor blade scraper knife.  I
> > also made a wooden wedge and have a rubber mallet ready for some *very
> > *gentle
> > taps after patiently waiting for the adhesive remover to go to work.  The
> > DeBond should get here on Friday so this will be a weekend project.
> Until
> > then, I have other boat projects underway to keep me busy when I'm not at
> > work.
> >
> > I'll be sure to follow up this weekend and let you know the (hopefully
> not
> > gripping) conclusion.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > OK I am adding to this as I JUST got through managing a 5200-attached
> hatch
> > on forward deck
> > STRONGLY recommend you not use mallet  or cutting as this can damage the
> > deck.
> > DEBOND (can get via Amazon)works well and is safer
> > Spray a good layer of the debond under one side of the tabernacle and
> wait
> > a few minutes, then lightly tap wooden wedges into the gap. patience
> > essential here. Spray more in and advance a little bit at a time. It will
> > work, just do not force it or you will split the fiberglass. Will need a
> > sharp chisel to clean off the gel coat
> > Agree that Practical Sailor article very helpful as well
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how 3M 5200 compares to adult barnacle attachment secretion
> >
> > which
> >
> > is nearly impossible to break.
> >
> > Maybe Debond would work on barnacles!
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Graham Stewart
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:07 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
> >
> > Mark: I wouldn't even use it for the hull-deck joint. In fact I had to
> > break the seal to remove the foredeck on my boat. I may be the only
> >
> > person
> >
> > to ever do that but still I don't think anything is permanent. 5200 and
> > similar are incredible adhesives but if you are primarily interested in a
> > sealant where high adhesive qualities are not the highest priority and if
> > there is any possibility that you might want to break the bond in the
> > future, I would always seek an alternative. 3M 4200 is a very strong
> > adhesive but is easier to remove.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >
> > Behalf
> >
> > Of Mark Whipple
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:28 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
> >
> > I've read that if you take a strong, thin wire like piano wire you can
> > slowly cut through the 5200 (AKA Devil's Glue). Don't know if heating it
> > would help. I've never needed to try this so if you do let us know how it
> > goes.
> >
> > About the only legit use I've heard of for 5200 is a hull-to-deck joint.
> > That's something that you hope you'll never have to disassemble.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Boston, MA
> >
> > 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
> > 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
> > 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:03 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Where something is adhering to fiberglass with 5200 I think a
> > sufficient whack to break the bond is likely to remove the gel coat
> > before the bond breaks. A whack might work for a metal to metal bond
> > but I would still be very careful especially for something like cast
> >
> > aluminum.
> >
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Ric Stott
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:09 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
> >
> > Careful wack with Rubber mallet!!
> > Ric
> > Dadventure
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
> >
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey Jesse,
> > Sounds like PL5200. Strongest stuff in the world. Just about
> > impossible
> >
> > to
> >
> > remove. You might make a hack saw frame but with the blade at 90
> > degrees
> >
> > to
> >
> > a normal one. Slowly cut between the cabin roof and tabernacle. At
> > some point you can apply a rotational motion and should get it off.
> > You will Have an ugly scarred area. Research to see if they have
> > come up with a solvent for 5200. If so, use that rather than the
> > butchery method. Good luck.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Enosis.
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Jesse Shumaker <
> >
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I'm attempting to remove the mast tabernacle in order to
> > install the Dwyer Halyard Organizer plate (part DH288).  The three
> > screws came out easily, but the tabernacle is still attached very
> > strongly with an adhesive.  I don't know what adhesive was used.
> > The adhesive is colored white.  I tried heating up the plate with a
> > soldering iron and tried to squeeze in a razor but have been unable
> >
> > to break the seal.
> >
> >
> > I would appreciate any tips from the group on how to free the
> > tabernacle from the cabin top.  Thanks in advance for any advice!
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
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