[Rhodes22-list] Another owner grateful for positive flotation

[cjlowe at sssnet.com]

Mark,
  That is an easy fix. Turn that tee fitting 180 degrees to straight up ,
add two-inch of pipe to a 90 degree fitting and attach to the tee. On
the other end of the 90 degree fitting, reduce to the size of the bilge
pump hose, add another 90 degree fitting and attach the bilge pump hose
to the bottom of the fitting. The reason you reduce after the first 90
is to limit drain back, when the pump shuts off.

  Jerry Lowe


 Mark,
>
> Working out the kinks on a new (to you) boat can be such an adventure.
>
> Clearly the existing plumbing arrangement is sub-optimal.  It’s probably
> the source of you water problem, but how could the previous owner have not
> also had this problem? Maybe they only sailed flat.
>
> As to bilge pumps, I am of the opinion that they are mostly useless on a
> Rhodes 22.  In a situation where your boat starts taking on water while it
> is connected to shore power, I can see how one could save the day.
> Otherwise, either the amount of water is small and can be dealt with with
> a sponge, or you’ve got a real leak and the pump drains your battery,
> and then the boat sinks anyway.
>
> As to the halyard, I’ve been bitten by this myself.  In my case it was
> to starboard as well.  Maybe moving it to port would be better.  What I
> did was to move the lower attachment point away from the mast, to a deck
> mounted block out towards the hand rail.  Since that repositioning, I’ve
> never again gotten the halyard caught up in the IMF.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:
>>
>> Please take a look at the attached picture. In the picture it appears
>> that
>> someone connected the hose from the bilge pump to the sink drain. You
>> might
>> ask yourself, who would connect a through-hull to a bilge pump hose
>> without a loop up to the waterline? I can only say someone did it before
>> I
>> bought the boat. Then you might say, well, didn't you see the problem
>> when
>> you bought the boat? Yup, I do remember making a mental note of it when
>> I
>> originally inspected the boat. The problem is, at my age you need to
>> physically write stuff down (or at least make a note on the phone)
>> because
>> mental notes are fickle things. I know the through-hull is actually
>> above
>> the waterline, but read on.
>>
>> The rest of the story:
>>
>> Last Friday my son made a rare visit to Boston from his home in
>> Manhattan,
>> and asked if we could go sailing. So, I launched the Rhodes last week
>> and
>> we took her out on the harbor for the first time since I've owned her. A
>> good day overall, but not without some of the traditional first sail
>> "thrilling" moments.
>>
>> Side note on the saildrive: I was able to easily get the boat up to 5
>> kts
>> under power and nearly 6 kts when motorsailing on a broad reach. Over
>> about
>> 4kts the stern begins to squat as boats often do at some point under
>> power.
>> There were also three adults in the cockpit (my daughter was with us).
>> We
>> would get a little water in the cockpit while motoring but I attributed
>> that to the stern squat. Toward the end of the sail there was more water
>> in
>> the cockpit when motoring but that didn't quite register at the time.
>>
>> While sailing we occasionally had a tough time rolling in the main when
>> I
>> wanted to. I had recalled Stan's words from just last week: if it's hard
>> to
>> roll in the main then something's wrong. We didn't really solve the
>> problem
>> until we were almost back at the mooring. There is an extra halyard I
>> have
>> for the asymmetrical spinnaker that goes on the bowsprit (that I broke
>> in
>> half). That halyard runs down the back side of the mast, and was loose
>> enough to get caught in the main as we tried to roll it in. I'm going to
>> try to shift that halyard to the port side of the mast and make sure
>> it's
>> pretty taught.
>>
>> When we got back to the mooring my son told me there was water above the
>> cabin sole. At that point we had just picked up the mooring and I was
>> still
>> struggling with the main. We got the main sorted and the mooring
>> pennants
>> secured. I then checked the bilge pump and it wasn't running. I suspect
>> a
>> flaky float switch, but there were also leaves down there so I had to
>> keep
>> clearing them from the base of the bilge pump. It's possible that while
>> we
>> were sailing the pump clogged and became overheated. After we got most
>> of
>> the water out we had to rush off the boat to drive down to meet my wife
>> on
>> Cape Cod (I know, such problems).
>>
>> My conclusion: it was a pretty gusty day and I saw the boat heel 20deg
>> or
>> more on both tacks. I'm reasonably confident that I was taking water in
>> through the bilge hose on port tacks. The through-hull is above the
>> waterline but only 6-8" if memory serves. I'm also thinking - wouldn't
>> the
>> person who plumbed this realize that the drainage from the sink would
>> end
>> up in the bilge? In any case I have a project that just became a little
>> more urgent.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> --
>> Boston, MA
>>
>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
>> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
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