[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Trailer

Wed May 19 09:26:33 EDT 2021

Hello Roger. I’ve replaced the front tires once, but they were the original
pair from the previous owner. Although I’ve trailered around MN and WI a
lot, most trips have been within an hour’s drive, although I’ve been up to
the Apostle Islands on Lake Superior several times. That’s about three and
a half hours. So I don’t put on that many miles compared to say Chris G.
who, IIRC travels from Oregon to The Baja. Yes, the goal for adding the
second axle was to increase the tongue weight enough to stop the trailer
from fishtailing, which in my case was quite extreme and no amount of
struggle to load the boat farther forward helped. In fact, no matter the
degree of steepness of ramps or anything else, the boat always wound up in
the same position on the trailer plus or minus an inch or two. With the
trailer’s bow stop all the way forward I back in so just the front tips of
the bunks are showing above water. Then the boat loads all the way up to
the bow stop. As I pull out, the boat rocks back on the bunks and winds up
about a foot and a half away from the bow stop. Then slide the stop back
towards the boat for travel. The boat won’t load any farther forward and
shouldn’t have to if the trailer is designed right. Mine wasn’t, or at
least not without removing the motor and rudder etc. which to me is
impractical.  It was a Trailmaster, now it’s a Slimmaster!

Slim
Fandango

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:26 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Slim,
>
> So, your shop effectively moved the pitch radius from the original center
> of the single axle back to ~ halfway between the centers of the tandem
> wheels.  This will increase the tongue weight, fortunately in your case not
> enough to be dangerous.  I bet if you were to measure the tire loading, you
> would find your two front wheels are carrying considerable more load vs.
> the two back wheels.  Again, as long as you don’t exceed the tire load
> rating, this is not dangerous.  Have you noticed more tread wear on the
> front tires vs. the rear tires?  My four tires wear pretty evenly and I
> don’t rotate them or anything like that.  In fact, I tend to have to
> replace trailer tires most often due to cracking in the sidewalls due to
> oxygen and UV exposure after several years.  I have had a blowout and a
> steel wheel failure on my boat trailer in the 34 years I’ve owned it.  In
> both cases, I was extremely glad I had a tandem axle trailer!
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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> From: Steven Alm<mailto:stevenalm at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Trailer
>
> When I added the second axle to my trailer I did not reposition the first
> axle. The second one was put on behind it. I did not do this work myself. I
> checked with several  shops in my area until I found one who I felt would
> do it right. They also fabricated new fenders over the wheels — single long
> fenders covering both wheels. I don’t know what the tongue weight is but it
> weighs down the back of the vehicle about two inches, so at least a couple
> hundred pounds, probably more. They added electric breaks to the front
> wheels and installed the controller up next to the steering column. In the
> last 25 years  I’ve owned four different tow vehicles ranging from a 3/4
> ton Ford E250 to a 6 cylinder Toyota 4Runner. All towed it fine without any
> issues.
>
> Slim
> Fandango
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:33 PM Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I leave my Tohatsu 9.8 motor on the transom while trailering because it
> is
> > heavy.  However, I take my rudder off and put that in the v-berth since
> > that helps put more weight forward and takes stress off the transom.  I
> > help support my motor with 3 separate straps that hang off the stern
> rail.
> >
> > My most recent process is to remove the tiller and connector to the motor
> > so it's easy to handle the components rather than the whole assembly.  I
> > had a cover made for the rudder so it's easy to maneuver through the
> cabin
> > without scraping anything.  The cover is made such that I can put on and
> > take it off while the rudder is mounted on the boat.
> >
> > The ramp at the lake where I sail is quite gradual so it's easy to get
> the
> > boat far enough forward.  I'm still a novice when it comes to towing but
> > haven't had any issues when towing around 60 MPH on my 2011 Triad single
> > axle trailer.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:10 PM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I have very little weight on my hitch and inquired to Triad trailer
> with
> > > the response that I needed to remove motor.   Has anyone else had this
> > > problem and resolved without having to take motor off?
> > >
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > > From: Michael Orro <mike at triadtrailers.com>
> > > > Date: April 28, 2021 at 3:16:51 PM EDT
> > > > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: Polise trailer
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Hello Mr. Polise,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for this information and for the measurements.   According
> to
> > > the measurements, the trailer is built correctly.   I’ve attached a
> > > photograph of a Rhodes 22 sitting on her Triad Trailer.   The boats
> > appear
> > > to be loaded in the same spot.  It looks like you have a motor hanging
> > off
> > > the back of the boat.  Do you?  If so, that motor needs to be loaded in
> > the
> > > boat as far forward as possible.   Other than this, I’m not sure what’s
> > > going on.  I’m surprised they can’t move the boat a bit more forward on
> > the
> > > trailer.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Mike Orro
> > > > Triad Trailers LLC
> > > > 5831 Triangle Drive
> > > > Raleigh NC 27617
> > > > Phone: 919.782.6007
> > > > Fax: 919.782.6009
> > > > email: Mike at TriadTrailers.com
> > > > Web:  www.TriadTrailers.com<http://www.TriadTrailers.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:13 PM
> > > > To: Michael Orro <mike at triadtrailers.com>
> > > > Subject: Polise trailer
> > > >
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