[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Trailer

Wed May 19 09:36:59 EDT 2021

Incidentally, if you go to my Facebook page you’ll see my rather elaborate
method of removing the motor using a giant lever and block and tackle.
Stan’s sales pitch “For lazy sailors with bad backs” speaks to me.

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:26 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Roger. I’ve replaced the front tires once, but they were the
> original pair from the previous owner. Although I’ve trailered around MN
> and WI a lot, most trips have been within an hour’s drive, although I’ve
> been up to the Apostle Islands on Lake Superior several times. That’s about
> three and a half hours. So I don’t put on that many miles compared to say
> Chris G. who, IIRC travels from Oregon to The Baja. Yes, the goal for
> adding the second axle was to increase the tongue weight enough to stop the
> trailer from fishtailing, which in my case was quite extreme and no amount
> of struggle to load the boat farther forward helped. In fact, no matter the
> degree of steepness of ramps or anything else, the boat always wound up in
> the same position on the trailer plus or minus an inch or two. With the
> trailer’s bow stop all the way forward I back in so just the front tips of
> the bunks are showing above water. Then the boat loads all the way up to
> the bow stop. As I pull out, the boat rocks back on the bunks and winds up
> about a foot and a half away from the bow stop. Then slide the stop back
> towards the boat for travel. The boat won’t load any farther forward and
> shouldn’t have to if the trailer is designed right. Mine wasn’t, or at
> least not without removing the motor and rudder etc. which to me is
> impractical.  It was a Trailmaster, now it’s a Slimmaster!
>
> Slim
> Fandango
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:26 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Slim,
>>
>> So, your shop effectively moved the pitch radius from the original center
>> of the single axle back to ~ halfway between the centers of the tandem
>> wheels.  This will increase the tongue weight, fortunately in your case not
>> enough to be dangerous.  I bet if you were to measure the tire loading, you
>> would find your two front wheels are carrying considerable more load vs.
>> the two back wheels.  Again, as long as you don’t exceed the tire load
>> rating, this is not dangerous.  Have you noticed more tread wear on the
>> front tires vs. the rear tires?  My four tires wear pretty evenly and I
>> don’t rotate them or anything like that.  In fact, I tend to have to
>> replace trailer tires most often due to cracking in the sidewalls due to
>> oxygen and UV exposure after several years.  I have had a blowout and a
>> steel wheel failure on my boat trailer in the 34 years I’ve owned it.  In
>> both cases, I was extremely glad I had a tandem axle trailer!
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>
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>> From: Steven Alm<mailto:stevenalm at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:37 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Trailer
>>
>> When I added the second axle to my trailer I did not reposition the first
>> axle. The second one was put on behind it. I did not do this work myself.
>> I
>> checked with several  shops in my area until I found one who I felt would
>> do it right. They also fabricated new fenders over the wheels — single
>> long
>> fenders covering both wheels. I don’t know what the tongue weight is but
>> it
>> weighs down the back of the vehicle about two inches, so at least a couple
>> hundred pounds, probably more. They added electric breaks to the front
>> wheels and installed the controller up next to the steering column. In the
>> last 25 years  I’ve owned four different tow vehicles ranging from a 3/4
>> ton Ford E250 to a 6 cylinder Toyota 4Runner. All towed it fine without
>> any
>> issues.
>>
>> Slim
>> Fandango
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:33 PM Jesse Shumaker <
>> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I leave my Tohatsu 9.8 motor on the transom while trailering because it
>> is
>> > heavy.  However, I take my rudder off and put that in the v-berth since
>> > that helps put more weight forward and takes stress off the transom.  I
>> > help support my motor with 3 separate straps that hang off the stern
>> rail.
>> >
>> > My most recent process is to remove the tiller and connector to the
>> motor
>> > so it's easy to handle the components rather than the whole assembly.  I
>> > had a cover made for the rudder so it's easy to maneuver through the
>> cabin
>> > without scraping anything.  The cover is made such that I can put on and
>> > take it off while the rudder is mounted on the boat.
>> >
>> > The ramp at the lake where I sail is quite gradual so it's easy to get
>> the
>> > boat far enough forward.  I'm still a novice when it comes to towing but
>> > haven't had any issues when towing around 60 MPH on my 2011 Triad single
>> > axle trailer.
>> >
>> > Jesse Shumaker
>> > S/V Zephyr
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:10 PM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
>> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have very little weight on my hitch and inquired to Triad trailer
>> with
>> > > the response that I needed to remove motor.   Has anyone else had this
>> > > problem and resolved without having to take motor off?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Begin forwarded message:
>> > >
>> > > > From: Michael Orro <mike at triadtrailers.com>
>> > > > Date: April 28, 2021 at 3:16:51 PM EDT
>> > > > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
>> > > > Subject: RE: Polise trailer
>> > > >
>> > > > 
>> > > > Hello Mr. Polise,
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you for this information and for the measurements.
>>  According to
>> > > the measurements, the trailer is built correctly.   I’ve attached a
>> > > photograph of a Rhodes 22 sitting on her Triad Trailer.   The boats
>> > appear
>> > > to be loaded in the same spot.  It looks like you have a motor hanging
>> > off
>> > > the back of the boat.  Do you?  If so, that motor needs to be loaded
>> in
>> > the
>> > > boat as far forward as possible.   Other than this, I’m not sure
>> what’s
>> > > going on.  I’m surprised they can’t move the boat a bit more forward
>> on
>> > the
>> > > trailer.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best wishes,
>> > > > Mike Orro
>> > > > Triad Trailers LLC
>> > > > 5831 Triangle Drive
>> > > > Raleigh NC 27617
>> > > > Phone: 919.782.6007
>> > > > Fax: 919.782.6009
>> > > > email: Mike at TriadTrailers.com
>> > > > Web:  www.TriadTrailers.com<http://www.TriadTrailers.com>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:13 PM
>> > > > To: Michael Orro <mike at triadtrailers.com>
>> > > > Subject: Polise trailer
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