[Rhodes22-list] Axle location

[Rick Lange]

Graham,

Fill your water tank.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Graham,
>
> Whatever the reference point or the measurement, the fact that your tongue
> weight is too low tells you everything you need to know.  If you don’t want
> to just live with it, your options are: move the single axle backward on
> the trailer, add a 2nd axle behind the 1st, move the boat forward on the
> trailer, or add weight to the tongue.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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> From: Graham Stewart<mailto:gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 12:50 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Axle locattion
>
> Sorry for the confusion. Because all of the other dimensions matched the
> drawing I used the distance from the axle to the back because it was the
> easiest measurement forgetting that others might have a different
> structure.
>
> The distance between the center of the axle and the point where the
> extension enters the trailer is 165" while that distance on the drawing is
> 172"
>
> Graham Stewart
> gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
>
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Lowe, Rob
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 12:33 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Axle locattion
>
> I agree with Todd that the reference point should be the center of the ball
> socket.  That's where the tongue weight is measure and where the towing
> force is applied. - Rob
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Todd
> Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:11 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Axle locattion
>
> By looking at these old drawings, I guess the datum point/benchmark really
> should have been the center of the ball socket, which would have better
> standardized the tongue weight (and balance). That would have to assume the
> coupler and extension lengths were somewhat uniform.
>
> Measuring the axle position from the rear of the trailer frame or the rear
> bunk support is not the best reference.
> Also, the angles of the bunks are a little off (I was never good at trig).
> Thankfully my carpenter's calculator has a rise over run function. The
> angles for the bunks are closer to 22.5° in the rear and 37° in the front
> (from horizontal).
>
> I seemed to remember there was approximately a 6" difference in axle
> positions between owners' trailers, but most reported the more rearward
> dimension so I changed the drawing. There may be early drawings of the
> trailer in the archives before I edited the drawing which show the forward
> measurements..but I do not know.
>
> Todd T.
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021, 10:46 AM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Graham, my boat is an '86 and the trailer that came with the boat is a
> > Triad.. Therefore I must assume the trailer is an 86 as well. I just
> > measured from the end of the trailer to the center of the axle and it is
> ,
> > DRUM ROLL  . . . . . . . . . 75 1/2 inch. Sorry to add to the confusion..
> > My front end measurements may also be off. I had the extension bar
> replaced
> > and last year added a braking system which added to the length of the
> > extension with a brake actuator.  Mike is the second generation in the
> > trailer company and I am sure the trailer has evolved over the years.
> You
> > know that Stan is always tinkering with something. I think my trailer was
> > manufactured in Connecticut . The newer trailers are made in NC.
> >
> > Best of luck
> > Cary
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:33 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just measured the location of my axle and compared it to the drawings
> > > prepared by Todd and found that my axle is 7" forward of what the
> > drawings
> > > specify. That strikes me as a pretty significant difference. I am
> > wondering
> > > if the others who have found it impossible to get their boats far
> enough
> > > forward might also measure the distance between the back of their
> trailer
> > > to the center of the axle to see if this is the reason for the
> > difficulty.
> > > The drawing stipulates that this distance should be 70" but mine is
> 77".
> > >
> > > Does anyone know whether this dimension changed at some time between
> > older
> > > and newer iterations of the boat?
> > >
> > >
> > > Graham Stewart
> > > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > > Kingston Ontario
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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