[Rhodes22-list] The Rhodes 22 As An "Offshore" Cruising Boat

Roger Pihlaja rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:56:08 -0400


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Richard,

As I've been saying, this type of cruising isn't for everyone.  A man =
needs to know his limits.  You shouldn't do something that makes you =
uncomfortable unless you are intending to test & possibly expand those =
limits.  Just realize the limits most of us set for ourselves are well =
below what the Rhodes 22 is capable of handling.  If probing the edge of =
the envelope doesn't interest you, then you should definitely stay back =
from the edge.

Gary & I had great time on that spinnaker run across Saginaw Bay several =
weeks ago.  But, a lot of people would have been terrified to be out =
under such conditions. =20

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: R.G. Smith=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] The Rhodes 22 As An "Offshore" Cruising =
Boat


  <I see that some guy has just finished a trip, San Francisco to Hilo, =
Hawaii in August in his WW Potter 19.>



  I know nothing of this trip BUT the early passages which made the =
Potters present reputation were accomplished in a very highly modified =
boat.  Check out the Potter net groups and you will be surprised at just =
how different the famous boat was from what is made today.  There is a =
brand new Potter in my marina.  For costal sailing it's ok but, I for =
one would not trust my life to it.



  <Some of us seem to set pretty low limits for ourselves.>



  In my case it's a matter of the weight (my perception) of a captains =
responsibility.  I generally have my wife and frequently my children =
onboard.  On these occasions the cloak of "command" and ethical =
answerability hangs heavily on me and  I become extraordinarily =
cautious.



  A couple of weeks ago Roger posted a fascinating story describing a =
spinnaker run under very difficult conditions.  It reminded me of a =
similar passage I made (20 years ago)  in a 19 foot Albin one design =
swing keel boat which was my first serious monohull vessel.  We flew for =
40 miles.  Looking back at it and considering what might have happened I =
am positive I would not try it today.  Is this the wisdom of experience =
or just fear. I don't know.



  In the early days of sail/steam cross Atlantic service the Cunard Line =
instructed their captains that one thing mattered above all else.  To =
deliver their vessel and passengers safely.  By paying no heed to that =
rule Captain Smith cooked the White Star Line.  After more then two =
decades of sailing.dodging water spouts and a few other spectaular =
eventualities I (at last) try to live up to Cunards principal.



  Richard Smith




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I've been saying, this type of =
cruising isn't=20
for everyone.&nbsp; A man needs to know his limits.&nbsp; You shouldn't =
do=20
something that makes you uncomfortable unless you are intending to test =
&amp;=20
possibly expand those limits.&nbsp; Just realize the limits most of us =
set for=20
ourselves&nbsp;are well below what the Rhodes 22 is capable of =
handling.&nbsp;=20
If probing the edge of the envelope doesn't interest you, then you =
should=20
definitely stay back from the edge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gary &amp; I had great time on that =
spinnaker run=20
across Saginaw Bay several weeks ago.&nbsp; But, a lot of people would =
have been=20
terrified to be out under such conditions.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dsailnut@asan.com href=3D"mailto:sailnut@asan.com">R.G. =
Smith</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 06, =
2002 10:37=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Rhodes22-list] =
The Rhodes=20
  22 As An "Offshore" Cruising Boat</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">&lt;</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I see that some guy has just finished a =
trip,=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">San=20
  Francisco</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> =
to=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hilo</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hawaii</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> in August in his WW Potter 19.<FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black">&gt;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know =
nothing of=20
  this trip BUT the early passages which made the Potters present =
reputation=20
  were accomplished in a very highly modified boat.&nbsp; Check out the =
Potter=20
  net groups and you will be surprised at just how different the famous =
boat was=20
  from what is made today.&nbsp; There is a brand new Potter in my =
marina.&nbsp;=20
  For costal sailing it=92s ok but, I for one would not trust my life to =

  it.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">&lt;</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Some of us seem to set pretty low limits for =

  ourselves.<FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black">&gt;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In my case =
it=92s a=20
  matter of the weight (my perception) of a captains =
responsibility.&nbsp; I=20
  generally have my wife and frequently my children onboard.&nbsp; On =
these=20
  occasions the cloak of =93command=94 and ethical answerability hangs =
heavily on me=20
  and &nbsp;I become extraordinarily cautious.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A couple =
of weeks=20
  ago Roger posted a fascinating story describing a spinnaker run under =
very=20
  difficult conditions.&nbsp; It reminded me of a similar passage I made =
(20=20
  years ago) &nbsp;in a 19 foot Albin one design swing keel boat which =
was my=20
  first serious monohull vessel.&nbsp; We flew for 40 miles.&nbsp; =
Looking back=20
  at it and considering what might have happened I am positive I would =
not try=20
  it today.&nbsp; Is this the wisdom of experience or just fear=85 I =
don=92t=20
  know.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the =
early days of=20
  sail/steam cross </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Atlantic</SPAN></FONT><FONT =

  face=3DArial color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> service=20
  the Cunard Line instructed their captains that one thing mattered =
above all=20
  else.&nbsp; To deliver their vessel and passengers safely. &nbsp;By =
paying no=20
  heed to that rule Captain Smith cooked the White Star Line.&nbsp; =
After more=20
  then two decades of sailing=85dodging water spouts and a few other =
spectaular=20
  eventualities I (at last) try to live up to Cunards=20
  principal.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard=20
  Smith</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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