[ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand up?

Michael Meltzer mjm@michaelmeltzer.com
Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:11:14 -0500


to long, just do it. welcome to the wonderful world of salt water. If you donot you have a real mess and a nightmare to get the hard
growth off.

MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saroj" <saroj@pathfind.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand up?


> Can anyone tell me how I can tell if my bottom paint is still good?  That
> is, without finding it covered in animals in 3 months.  About to put it into
> salt water after quite a few years in fresh or on the trailer.  It is still
> very powdery.  Or is this just a regular maintenance item regardless of what
> it's current active state is?
>
> Thanks,
> Saroj
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy@netreach.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand up?
>
>
> > I would like to add to the bottom paint confusion that we use Woolsey
> > Neptune II keeping Fretless in a slip in the brackish water of the upper
> > Chesapeake Bay. It's ablative and seems to do a good job keeping the scum
> > and the growth down. We generally give the waterline a scrub once or twice
> > a season. It's very attractive to us because it is water based - no nasty
> > solvents to breathe in the application. You still have to protect yourself
> > and the environment from the dust sanding (high copper content) but the
> > application and clean-up are much easier.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> > At 01:48 AM 4/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> > >The Zebra Mussels are here in the Mississippi and the Minnesota Rivers.
> > >
> > >And speaking of cancerous marine life, has anyone heard anything lately
> > >about the Chinese Snake Fish?  This critter not only infests its habitat,
> it
> > >can wiggle its way across dry land, apparently quite a distance, and
> infest
> > >neighboring waters as well.   Scary!
> > >
> > >But I digress--back to bottom paint.  Sorry to sound so stupid but,
> > >hey...too much information f**ks me up  :-)  The bottom paint that's on
> my
> > >boat now is sort of chalky and rubs off on your hand, or anything else,
> wet
> > >or dry.  This is called "ablative", right?  Again, sorry to be stupid.
> I'm
> > >up here in MN in fresh, cool water and whatever this is on my boat seems
> to
> > >work pretty well keeping off the slime.  So I was thinking about just
> giving
> > >'er a light sand and laying on a couple coats of the same paint. No
> primer,
> > >no fuss, no muss.  Just paint it.  Would it be so wrong?  But what
> exactly
> > >is the name (brand) of this kind of paint?  Can I just ask for Interlux
> > >ablative at WM or do I really have to do all those chemistry tests on the
> > >existing paint to determine exactly the shoe size of the original
> painter,
> > >etc.?  I'm OK with cutting some corners--I just want a
> > >pretty-decent-do-it-yourself job done the easy way.
> > >
> > >The PS pick is Interlux Micron Optima two-part ablative.  How many coats
> per
> > >gallon?   Comments anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > >Slim
> > >S/V Fandango
> > >
> > >On 4/1/03 10:41 PM, "anima" <anima13@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wally, a big problem here as well!
> > > > Anne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand up?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Rummy,
> > > >>
> > > >> Those pesky Zebra Mussels are spreading beyond the Great Lakes.
> Although
> > > > not
> > > >> a big problem yet on the TN River, they are starting to show up. We
> get
> > > >> quite a bit of boat traffic from people who cruise from the Great
> Lakes
> > > > and
> > > >> the mussels travel down with them.
> > > >>
> > > >> It would be nice if Zebra Mussels tasted good. It never seems to work
> out
> > > >> that way though.
> > > >>
> > > >> Wally
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes@earthlink.net>
> > > >>> Reply-To: johntonjes@earthlink.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >>> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand
> up?
> > > >>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:44:24 -0500
> > > >>>
> > > >>> MJM,
> > > >>> It depends where the fresh water is located. Our lake, Lake Hartwell
> in
> > > >>> South Carolina, is notorious for vigorous growth. It requires a very
> > > > strong
> > > >>> anti-fouling paint such as the Interlux Micron Extra with Biolux.
> Zebra
> > > >>> Mussels are pretty much contained to the Great Lakes from what I
> > > >>> understand.
> > > >>> Most boats when pulled after spending only a few weeks in the water
> > > > without
> > > >>> any protection have acquired the notorious Hartwell stripe (aka:
> slime).
> > > >>> It's not hard to clean when you first pull the boat, just don't let
> it
> > > > sit
> > > >>> around and dry on the hull. It's so bad, I'm contemplating putting
> > > >>> anti-fouling on the bottom of my run about.
> > > >>> When I pulled Rum Runner from the lake for the bottom work, there
> was a
> > > >>> good 1/2 inch of growth on the bottom. I wonder if that was slowing
> me
> > > > down
> > > >>> any?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Rummy
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> [Original Message]
> > > >>>> From: Michael Meltzer <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>>> Date: 4/1/2003 4:33:02 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand
> up?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> freah water does not a problem with hard growth, just zebra musles,
> > > > the
> > > >>> grasses and slime are more of the a problem, most of the
> > > >>>> hight rated paints will work, the thought problem are salt/brackish
> > > >>> water. it is a hard paint, the "sr" version is a big plus in
> > > >>>> this case, alittle overkill for freash water.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> MJM
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Steve Alm" <salm@mn.rr.com>
> > > >>>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:13 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand
> up?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Is the Petit Trinidad an ablative?  Is there a different bottom
> > > > paint
> > > >>> for
> > > >>>>> salt/fresh water?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 4/1/03 11:57 AM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Cut Stan a break, do you really think he keeps track of the
> bottom
> > > >>> paint on
> > > >>>>>> every boat.
> > > >>>>>> I am sure him like other just look at the paint on the boat for
> > > > the
> > > >>> answer.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> the issues:
> > > >>>>>> Teflon can only go over Teflon, Stan does not use it unless
> > > > someone
> > > >>> sent him
> > > >>>>>> some.
> > > >>>>>> High copper hard epoxy, his favorite, if in good shape anything
> > > > can
> > > >>> go over.
> > > >>>>>> adbaitve, only abative can go over, it washs off(hint, wet a
> area,
> > > >>> good, then
> > > >>>>>> try a scrubber sponge, does it come off like a bar of
> > > >>>>>> soap).
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> This is my second time trying to help, you never answered the
> > > >>> questions from
> > > >>>>>> last time how it being used..........
> > > >>>>>> BTW Awlgrip is know for thier top side paint, not thier bottom
> > > > pain.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> MJM
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>>> From: "Ken Wise" <skipperken@excite.com>
> > > >>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:34 PM
> > > >>>>>> Subject: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Stan, will the real paint stand
> up?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Stan, we need to reapply an anti-fouling paint to the bottom of
> > > >>> Awaken, but
> > > >>>>>>> want to know what paint you used to make certain what
> > > >>>>>> we choose is compatable. I used the faq site and got an answer of
> > > >>> Awlgrip. Gil
> > > >>>>>> said you used Petit Trinidad on his boat. Only you
> > > >>>>>> know what is on my boat, please clear this up. Ken
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Ken Wise
> > > >>>>>>> Awaken
> > > >>>>>>> Trail Creek Marina
> > > >>>>>>> Michigan City, IN
> > > >>>>>>>
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