[ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good idea
Steve
rhodes2282@yahoo.com
Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:07:32 -0800 (PST)
Well, Brad, good write up but the Clinton thing;
mercy. I just do not like a guy that can't keep his
pants on. This country would not be having these
problems if he would have handled these things and not
been humping every women he came across. Lieing about
it, lieing to grand jury and then going off and huming
something else. I guess he was keeping busy; just not
running the country or seeing to it that our military
and spy agencies were being probably funded. Of
course, he was seeing to it that he was being probably
funded. These war protesters need to get a life and
realize that Sudam is killing his own people. Funding
terrorists, and laughing at the UN. Of couse, the UN
is a joke. We are the only country on the planet that
helps people that are being mistreated by thier
governments. What can you say about a group of US
protestors that are protesting this country to try and
help a group of people that are being killed and
mistreated. I think, their more concern with their
bank statements and not with helping a group of people
that needs help.
Steve
--- brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:
> MJM,
>
> There was a very telling photo in the USA Today last
> week of the Korean Penusula from a satellite at
> night,
> showing South Korea completely lit up and North
> Korea
> mostly dark. Let's see, there's N. Korea, Cuba, a
> couple of African countries, that's about it for
> nations that are still trying to run their economies
> on communist economic theories. I found myself in
> agreement with Bill Clinton (Lord take me now) last
> week when he said the North Koreans want economic
> aid
> and this is their cry for attention. They need food
> and power. The problem is, if we cave in, every two
> bit nation in the world will act the same. If the
> only threat from N. Korea is their nuclear reactor,
> we
> simply do like Israel did with Saddam, take it out.
> My gut feeling is that the US is not that concerned
> about Korea yet because the time line is not as
> critical as Iraq. Plus, China has a huge stake in
> this because of their geography and customer base.
> You're right about nukes in Japan. I don't trust
> them
> with weapons and the Chinese sure as hell don't.
> Until
> I can walk into any restaurant in Tokyo that I
> choose
> and get a table, they don't deserve even a
> firecracker
> (I've been refused admission to eat three times in
> Japan because I was an American). Makes me want to
> trade my Lexus for a Renault, NOT!
>
> Brad
> --- Michael Meltzer <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> > my view is china should send in about 3 million of
> > the PLA to "protect" North Korea from us :-),
> > barring that stop propping up the
> > assholes and tolerate some insurability while
> North
> > Korea's go thought their death throws. I have a
> > hard time believing china are
> > going to like Japan having nukes(like 800) with
> > their history, Taiwan will be next with
> nukes(would
> > not make any bets on them having
> > them now), India has them and hates china. a very
> > bad hood where life is cheap. They worst part is
> the
> > only is the only milarty
> > answer for North Korea is to use enought nukes for
> a
> > first strike and a mopup to take out the whole
> > contry at one time. they are
> > dug in to well with to much, funny thing is china
> > (and all the oithers in the hood)know it too.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good idea
> >
> >
> > > MJM,
> > >
> > > Actually the stopesso.com website is quite
> > > informative. I downloaded the Deutsche Bank
> > analysis
> > > and quickly read through it to see how well it
> > > dovetailed with a research paper I wrote about a
> > year
> > > ago. The website producers used some out of
> > context
> > > excerpts about Exxon to support their position.
> > I'm
> > > no cheerleader of big oil companies but for
> those
> > who
> > > think its all easy money, buy some oil company
> > stock.
> > >
> > > Now, for that Korea thing. It IS up to China.
> > They
> > > have more reason to be nervous about a fruitcake
> > > leader having nukes in their backyard than we
> do.
> > > China is North Korea's largest trade partner and
> > > energy supplier. Compared to Japan, South
> Korea,
> > and
> > > us, North Korea is very small potatoes. Plus,
> > China
> > > doesn't need any more people, they have plenty
> > > already, trust me. China is open for business
> and
> > > will follow the money. The US represents 40% of
> > > China's growth. They may do some posturing and
> > chest
> > > beating but in the end, they'll deal with North
> > Korea.
> > >
> > > Brad Haslett
> > > --- Michael Meltzer <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > I found it funny to, that all.
> > > >
> > > > the "oil conspiracy" are right for the wrong
> > > > resions, I think they (us. gov) are looking at
> > it as
> > > > a funding source to rebuild the
> > > > place "after" the war, get money and jobs to
> > people
> > > > so they love us, right, but 10 billion a year
> go
> > a
> > > > long way, open the taps so
> > > > the price goes to 20-25 dollars is a plus and
> > have
> > > > troops on 2(3) sides of Iran is the big plus.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line we do like him and maybe a warning
> > to
> > > > china to deal with North Kara
> > > >
> > > > MJM
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good
> > idea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Actually that's quite funny, and fun to play
> > with.
> > > > > Since no one is sailing we may as well
> solve
> > the
> > > > > worlds problems. What I find so amusing
> about
> > the
> > > > > "oil conspiracy" theories is how little
> > reality
> > > > based
> > > > > thinking there is behind them. The big oil
> > > > companies
> > > > > are heavily vertically integrated entities.
> > > > Believe
> > > > > it or not, they make money on donuts,
> coffee,
> > > > > newspapers, and stuff, regardless of the
> price
> > of
> > > > > gasoline. What they don't do is drill when
> > the
> > > > price
> > > > > per barrel of crude goes below about $25 per
> > > > barrel.
> > > > > If our only goal in Iraq was to get our
> hands
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > oil, and we open the spigots full, it would
> > > > decimate
> > > > > our domestic production industry, i.e.,
> > > > Halliburton
> > > > > and the like. GW knows this because his
> > company
> > > > went
> > > > > bust when crude prices went south. What
> will
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > happen is that Iraqi oil production profits
> be
> > > > > diverted to internal re-construction. This
> is
> > > > good
> > > > > for the Iraqi people and good for France,
> and
> > > > others,
> > > > > dependent on their oil. Since President 41
> > didn't
> > > > go
> > > > > for the oil when he had the opportunity
> there
> > is
> > > > no
> > > > > reason to believe that 43 will either except
> > to
> > > > > rebuild Iraq's domestic economy. Surely
> > everyone
> > > > > agrees that the Iraqi people could use oil
> > profits
> > > > for
> > > > > better things than a bigger army.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad Haslett
> > > > > --- Michael Meltzer <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.stopesso.com/funstuff/nose.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Steve Alm" <salm@mn.rr.com>
> > > > > > To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:54 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] FW: A good
> > idea
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > > ------ Forwarded Message
> > > > > > > From: Pat Frederick <pfsongs@mn.rr.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:50:08 -0600
> > > > > > > To: Steve Alm <salm@mn.rr.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: A good idea
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yahoo pat
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