[Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel

Glen & Dorene Barrera dbarrera at comcast.net
Mon Feb 2 21:02:45 EST 2004


Oops.

Sent the last without noting that Paul G. from In. came in. Nice chat.
Thanks Paul

Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen & Dorene Barrera" <dbarrera at comcast.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel


> Michael and All;
>
> "Got to love the guy" is right on. We were there on Sat. at S/S in Chgo.
The
> boats looked good! If you didn't see the picture board, with the typed
inset
> which started, "A funny thing happened on the way from North Carolina to
> Chgo..." you wouldn't know there was anything up with Elton or the boat
(had
> to look under the stern to see the dings). Elton was at his usual which is
> pretty laid back and non chalant. He had a great "crew" with him. Bob and
> Kathy Quinn who came up from temperate weather in Flordia (ask them about
> the weather change), cleaned up the Rhodes, and with Dave from Seaward,
> raised the mast and cleaned up the 26 Seaward. Very nice job! Bob and
Kathy,
> Elton and Dave were working the boats the entire day, which at most times
> was non-stop. Dorene and I made some "cushion runs" with Elton out to the
> van, which had gotten pretty banged up from the accident. The day ended up
> with a dinner at "Joes Bebop" at Navy Pier with Elton from NC, Bob and
Kathy
> from Fl, Julie and  Dan who came in from Mn., Jerry and Carol who came in
> from Oh.  and Dorene and I, Ron and Becky, Bob and Debby, from spitting
> distance. All Rhodes owners and (as expected) a good group!
>
> Glen and Dorene
>
> P.S. also looking at the 26.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
>
>
> > here the story as I know it and I do not know if I have all the details,
> got it from some quickly phone calls.
> >
> > 1)Monday night/Tuesday mooring, Eltion was moving boat north for the
boat
> show, the seaward26 in this case. remember he needs to
> > take two boats to Chicago(the rhodes22 was already propositioned 60
miles
> from the show), The "working under time pruesser" is what
> > got him, at least in my option, A bad thing to do with sailboats :-)
> >
> > 2)That was the night of the storm, about 120 miles north of the plant on
> 295, going 50 mph(claims everyone was passing him). road
> > were dry, so into a turn near a exit ramp and hits black ice(My option
he
> drove into the frezing rain part of the storm but that
> > 20/20 hind sight, 120 miles south on the coast the road might have been
> fine when he left the plant, my option.
> >
> > 3)jackknife, boat trailer/van go spinning, his van loose the running
> board, trailer looks like it smashed into the side of the van,
> > trailer very bent up, fount coupler and bar bent to hell, trailer messed
> up where is meet the van. boat is flung from the
> > trailer(remember he in the right lane, boat ends up in the center strip,
> 2-3 lane wide road), lands on the keel. Their was some snow
> > that protected the finish form "road rash" and the only damage is the
lead
> bulb came off where is landed on it(BTW about 400 pounds
> > on the 1200 of bassist), not bad at all considering, no crack, no
> buckheads broken, no hull broken/cracked,  mast hardware fine
> > etc..., bottom line the boat came thought fine and better than could be
> expected.
> >
> > 4)"Eltion is Fucked time", Think what you would do:-) it is not pretty,
in
> the middle of nowhere, van  smashed, trailer smashed,
> > boat on the side of the road, alot of money invested in a boat and a
boat
> show. Lots of money flowing to make things happen, OK gets
> > the trailer into a weild shop and they fix up it up along with the van.
> thats tuesday. gets a hold craine services for wednesday
> > morring to get the boat on the trailer, but they need to close 295 to do
> it, calls the cops at first they where delaying for a few
> > days then he told them he is getting the boat on the side of the road,
> "You are the boat man", apparently he is famious that every
> > cop known the story on that strech of highway. He tells them about the
> boat show and they let him use the crane 900am.
> >
> > 5)late and behind time he makes it to the show, but turnes it into a
great
> marketing optiunity to show how strong the boat is, got
> > to love the guy.
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > I am sure thier move but he have fill you in.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> >
> >
> > > So what the heck happened?  Everyone is OK right?
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:54 -0500
> > > >
> > > >I heard stan make a quote, "I guest we should use straps" :-), I not
> shore
> > > >it would have made a difference in this case, I waiting
> > > >for the pictures but the trailer got turned into a pretzel, spent a
day
> in
> > > >the weild shop being rebuilt. The boat would have simply
> > > >rolled with it attached and then broken apart, maybe sending a beam
> thought
> > > >the hull, happened before.
> > > >
> > > >MJM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Didn't we have a discussion about the durability of the Bulb Keel
> > > > > recently?
> > > > >
> > > > > And I think back, it was Elton who told me that I did not need
cross
> > > > > boat tie down straps when I got my boat.  Humm?  Would a strap
> across
> > > > > the cockpit have been worth the twenty bucks it cost?
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  _/)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >                                      Ed K
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ronald
> Lipton
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:42 AM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > >
> > > > > Both the Seaward and the Rhodes 22 are being offered at a $2000
> > > > > discount at the show.  Given what happend the Seaward is in
> remarkable
> > > > > shape
> > > > > with the exception of the bulb keel, which did not survive the 70
> mph
> > > > > "grounding".
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe GB will have a scratch and dent sail, er I mean sale .....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "keith burkhardt" <mkburk at adelphia.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's excellant adventure
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:03:57 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I just got back from the  chi boat show...Elton had  the
Seaward
> in
> > > > > tow
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >it slipped offf the trailer ,,,He has great pics of this
> adventure
> > > > > and
> > > > > was
> > > > > > >able to reload the boat abd got it into the show today...I
looked
> at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >Seaward and there appears very little damage...It was the talk
of
> the
> > > > > show
> > > > > > >and many folks visited the area..reagards keith
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