[Rhodes22-list] Story: Forward Weight?

Peter Thorn pthorn at nc.rr.com
Tue Feb 24 11:26:20 EST 2004


Bob K,

Where was you centerboard positioned during all this?  If aft, weather helm
could be reduced, even while heeled.

PT

> Here's a short story that I have been meaning to share, and there is
> actually a question at the end.  Several weeks ago Rummy, Roger R and I
were
> out doing some tandem sailing on Hartwell.  It was a beautiful winter
> day-temps in the high 50's maybe 60, and the wind was blowing 15-20 with
> gusts higher.  Great day of sailing.  After we parted company at the end
of
> the day to head back toward our opposite ends of the lake, I was
> singlehanding back to my dock, but the long way.  The wind was strong, the
> boat was hauling a--.  Had the full main, half the genoa and the boom in
the
> lower position.  It was almost dark at this point, but it was too great to
> rush back to the dock.  Still, I was sailing pretty hard and was heeling
> nicely as I sat in the stern seat.  Then a strong gust of wind hit and the
> boat healed over so far that water came pouring into the cockpit.  The
water
> actually filled up the compartment in the coaming and floated the cushion
> off the seat before I released the mainsheet.  I was surprised that the
boat
> never rounded up, but I think the gust hit so quickly that it just heeled
> over instead.  I was puzzled by the water coming into the cockpit and
wonder
> if more weight forward would prevent that?  I remember this happening one
> other time and it was when I had one crewmember with me on the high side
> near the cabin.  Of course, the first time it happened I immediately
> released the sheet and there was not much water in the cockpit.  But this
> time, I was in no hurry to release the sheet and wanted to see how much
> water would come in.  The answer:  a lot!  Would have continued if I did
not
> release the sheet.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this?  Is it a normal part of the design,
or
> is it because of the weight at the stern (motor, battery, me, etc...)?
> Bob K
>
>
> >From: "Glen & Dorene Barrera" <dbarrera at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <paul at grandpower.com>,"The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Forward Weight
> >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:38:14 -0600
> >
> >Ah-hem, Paul.... If Carol monitors the list.... "her weight forward
offsets
> >the big honkin' four stroke Mercury?"  ...... you're gonna be in big
> >trouble... ;^)
> >
> >Dorene
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Grandholm" <paul at grandpower.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:41 PM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Forward Weight
> >
> >
> >My wife likes to sit on the bow while we're sailing and the boat still
> >sails just fine.  I think her weight forward offsets the big honkin' four
> >stroke Mercury I bought last year hanging off the stern.
> >
> >Paul
> > >
> > >MJM is so smart that I never disagree with him but do on this one - I
> >think
> > >more weight up front results in a more balanced helm, lets you point
> >higher
> > >and increases speed as a result of a longer water line and less transom
> > >turbulence.  But I hardly ever get to sail so this would be an
> >interesting
> > >thread to open to all you active, brilliant Rhodies.
> > >
> > >stan/gbi
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > >To: <bestpestcontrol at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:07 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I really appreciate you guys
> > >
> > >
> > >> they was one thing not mentioned, the boat does NOT like weight
> >forward,
> >I
> > >seens as little at 20 pounds effect the trim and dig the
> > >> noose into chop, this is not a good idea for the boat.
> > >>
> > >> MJM
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
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