[Rhodes22-list] RE: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 383, Issue 1
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Today's Topics:
1. Mississsippi (Kroposki)
2. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark Kaynor)
3. RE: Mississsippi (Ben Schultz)
4. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Bob Weber)
5. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark Kaynor)
6. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob Lowe)
7. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob Lowe)
8. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark Kaynor)
9. Where is Stan (Kroposki)
10. epinions (Info)
11. Fred's epinions (Kroposki)
12. Re: epinions (Mary Lou Troy)
13. RE: epinions (Wally Buck)
14. Cape Cod Fred (Kroposki)
15. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
16. RE: epinions/opinions (Ben Schultz)
17. Re: epinions (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
18. Re: A description of '94 Bahamas trip. (NAPOLI51950 at aol.com)
19. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
20. Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Kroposki)
21. Re: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Steve Alm)
22. RE: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Ben Schultz)
23. RE: R19 vs. R22 (was epinions) (Jim Connolly)
24. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
25. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
26. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
27. RE: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO)
28. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
29. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
30. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
31. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
32. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
33. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
34. 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Mary Lou Troy)
35. RE: 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO)
36. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
37. Re: epinions (Steve)
38. RE: epinions (Steve)
39. Cape Cod Fred (Kroposki)
40. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
41. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Steve)
42. FW: Is this true? (Kroposki)
43. Re: FW: Is this true? (Rik Sandberg)
44. Re: FW: Is this true? (CT)
45. Re: general rigging question (Michael Meltzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:52:22 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Ben:
You might be interested in this guys book:
www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail in these waters. Humpf!
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Ed K
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:08:17 -0500
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Mary Lou,
He told me a story about running aground on the ICW. A big powerboat that
was going by so he called it on the VHF and asked the guy to give him some
big wake. The guy obliged and they were able to back off on the wave crests.
Imagine that - useful wake <g>.
The bottom of the keel looks like that because, in her current slip, she's
in the mud at low tide. Surveyor said no problem, though, everything's solid
and the anti-fouling paint is fine under the discoloration, though.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:20 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
Mark,
Sounds like the voice of experience. Actually looking at the bottom of the
keel......
We haven't tried looking for high speed access on the water - heck we are
finally going to broadband here at home.
If you keep the boat in MD they'll want their piece of your pie. 5% excise
unless you've already paid that amount or more to another state. If that's
not a problem, you could get to Deale up 301 and stay outside of the
Beltway, Solomons too.
Keep us informed.
ML
At 10:08 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Mary Lou,
>
>Yeah - that 15 hp ought to give some decent pull on a halyard <g>. And,
>according to the PO, it will handle carrying the kedging hook no
problem....
>
>Ever tried to find a slip at a marina w/ high speed access? Neither had
>we. It's not as easy as we thought. The places we like also happen to
>be, by their very nature, a bit away from civilization. No reason we
>can't have both, though - we just need to look hard enough and, maybe,
>convince
someone
>we know what were doing and can set them up w/ Wi-Fi for the marina
><g>.
>
>Haven't looked at Deale yet, but one of our requirements is not to have
>to deal with the DC / beltway traffic.
>
>Mark
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:57 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
>
>
>You'll be glad for the dinghy with the 5'8' draft. You could do Swan
>Creek but you'll need to be careful and watch the tides.
>
>I would think cable might be easier to find than DSL. You might have to
>look closer to the cities - Norfolk? or further North - Annapolis?
>Baltimore? Deale's not a big city but might have access.
>
>What a beautiful boat - did I say congratulations?
>
>ML
>
>
>At 09:13 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Don,
> >
> >No marina yet - we're trying to find a slip w/ high-speed Internet
> >access on/near the Rappahannock so we can "work from home" until
> >we're ready to take off. Unfortunately, given the work we do,
> >satellite and cellular wireless are pretty much out, due to low
> >upload speed. Not as easy to
find
> >DSL or cable as we originally thought.
> >
> >We found one so far, but we didn't like the location/marina as much
> >as
some
> >others we've visited - unfortunately, our favorite one has no
> >high-speed access available, and our second pick had so much damage
> >from Isabel, we won't know if we'll have a slip until March or April.
> >Guess we'll know something before too long...
> >
> >Oh yeah - rides always available for Rhodies when we're aboard -
> >maybe
>we'll
> >be able to make the Swan Creek get together again next Memorial Day -
> >if
>so,
> >we'll be glad to host the raft up <g>.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Clarke,
> >Donald R (Don), NEO
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:59 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Mark,
> >
> >This is very cool, I am so jealous, where are you going keep it?
> >
> >Hope you are giving rides!!!
> >
> >
> >Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Kaynor [mailto:mark at kaynor.org]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:02 PM
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Cc: Julie Kaynor
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been on the hard has
> >been tough for us, Christmas parade float notwithstanding. The
> >weather doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting on the
> >patio in our shirt
>sleeves
> >having a beer with some friends, and this morning we woke up to a
blustery
>8
> >degrees F. Sheesh.
> >
> >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded), we decided to do
> >something about it.
> >
> >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and signed the papers to
> >buy a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck, 3 1/2 feet
> >wider, and
>about
> >10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be big enough to distract us
> >from
>these
> >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next winter (or the one
> >after
> >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to go through this sort of
> >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it again, anyway <g>.
> >
> >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to the SSCA gam in
>Melbourne,
> >FL last November, but we didn't want to say anything until it was a
> >done deal - you know how these things sometimes go. We're bringing
> >her up to
the
> >Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually spend more and more time
>aboard
> >over the next year with an eye toward eventually living aboard and
heading
> >south. Time'll tell...
> >
> >Here's a link to some pictures - http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> >
> >Mark Kaynor
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:14:55 -0600
From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks Ed. I saw his post on the Gulf Coast sailnet list too. I'm
definitely interested. The Mississippi coast has some great sailing,
although it takes me a couple of days to get out there. One of these days,
I'll have to get a trailer. I do sometimes go canoe/kayak out there. It's
really nice, but I don't know the good places to go.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
Ben:
You might be interested in this guys book:
www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail in these waters. Humpf!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:16:32 -0600
From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Mark, A million congratulations. You bought the exact boat that exist only
in my mind as of now. A double ender with all the ornate wood and serious
not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious blue water boat. Please
keep the list updated on your preparation and plans. Did you have much
trouble convincing your wife about changing lifestyles? Bob Weber
>From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
>Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
>
>Folks,
>
>All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been on the hard has been
>tough for us, Christmas parade float notwithstanding. The weather
>doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting on the patio in our
>shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and this morning we woke
>up to a blustery 8
>degrees F. Sheesh.
>
>Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded), we decided to do
>something about it.
>
>Julie and I went to the bank this morning and signed the papers to buy
>a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck, 3 1/2 feet wider,
>and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be big enough to
>distract us from these
>wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next winter (or the one after
>that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to go through this sort of
>withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it again, anyway <g>.
>
>Actually, it's been in the works since we went to the SSCA gam in
>Melbourne,
>FL last November, but we didn't want to say anything until it was a done
>deal - you know how these things sometimes go. We're bringing her up to the
>Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually spend more and more time
>aboard
>over the next year with an eye toward eventually living aboard and heading
>south. Time'll tell...
>
>Here's a link to some pictures - http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
>
>Mark Kaynor
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:38:24 -0500
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCAEPODLAA.mark at kaynor.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Bob,
I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive - two of the best boats around
and a wife who wants to spend as much time as possible w/ me on both. And we
work together, too - go figure <g>.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Bob Weber
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:17 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
Mark, A million congratulations. You bought the exact boat that exist only
in my mind as of now. A double ender with all the ornate wood and serious
not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious blue water boat. Please
keep the list updated on your preparation and plans. Did you have much
trouble convincing your wife about changing lifestyles? Bob Weber
>From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
>Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
>
>Folks,
>
>All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been on the hard has been
>tough for us, Christmas parade float notwithstanding. The weather
>doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting on the patio in our
>shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and this morning we woke
>up to a blustery 8
>degrees F. Sheesh.
>
>Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded), we decided to do
>something about it.
>
>Julie and I went to the bank this morning and signed the papers to buy
>a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck, 3 1/2 feet wider,
>and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be big enough to
>distract us from these
>wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next winter (or the one after
>that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to go through this sort of
>withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it again, anyway <g>.
>
>Actually, it's been in the works since we went to the SSCA gam in
>Melbourne, FL last November, but we didn't want to say anything until
>it was a done deal - you know how these things sometimes go. We're
>bringing her up to the Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually
>spend more and more time aboard
>over the next year with an eye toward eventually living aboard and heading
>south. Time'll tell...
>
>Here's a link to some pictures - http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
>
>Mark Kaynor
>
>__________________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:40:06 -0500
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Bob,
Knowing Julie as I do, I expect it was the other way around! - Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
> Mark, A million congratulations. You bought the exact boat that exist
only
> in my mind as of now. A double ender with all the ornate wood and
> serious not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious blue water
> boat.
Please
> keep the list updated on your preparation and plans. Did you have
> much trouble convincing your wife about changing lifestyles? Bob
> Weber
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:42:40 -0500
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <014801c3d606$6e30ddf0$58ac52c6 at ehss.vt.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Mark,
I'd have to say you're correct. Especially after hearing your stories about
"the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
> Bob,
>
> I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive - two of the best boats
around
> and a wife who wants to spend as much time as possible w/ me on both.
> And
we
> work together, too - go figure <g>.
>
> Mark
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:51:34 -0500
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCGEABDMAA.mark at kaynor.org>
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Rob,
Haha. Yes, that would be another set of stories (and another life),
completely <g>.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rob Lowe
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:43 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
Mark,
I'd have to say you're correct. Especially after hearing your stories about
"the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues - cure found
> Bob,
>
> I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive - two of the best boats
around
> and a wife who wants to spend as much time as possible w/ me on both.
> And
we
> work together, too - go figure <g>.
>
> Mark
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:24:31 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Where is Stan
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Michael,
Stan has been quite these days. Is he out of town? Maybe at:
http://www.houstonboatshows.com/
The weather might be warmer there.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22. I know it a s totally
different type of boat, as far as performance goes. My question to anyone
who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22, Catalina, Com-pac. I do
like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind performance, pointing
and folding up problems. What are god conditions used R22's going for these
days. Thanks, Fred.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:02:33 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fred's epinions
To: <info at roadworksauto.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Fred:
There are other 'Fred's" on the list. Most on this list are owners
of R22's, but there are several owners of 19's and other Rhodes designs. I
expect others will reply to your inquiry over the next days and weeks.
Since we moved onto this list, the site keeper, Michael Meltzer, has
kept an archive of old emails. So one thing for you to do is peruse the old
emails. Unfortunately, people change subjects without changing the subject
line very often. So, don't rely on the subject line.
Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans which maintains a
history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have written over the years.
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
You might help us better respond to your questions by telling us where you
are and where you plan to sail. There are folks who monitor this list from
Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
Ed K
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:12 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Fred,
I've only sailed a Rhodes 19 once but it was a sweet boat. If you go with a
Rhodes 22 the standard 175 furling genoa and sail with it rolled up a lot
and with the in-mast main, the upwind performance will be good but not as
good as your R19.
Not sure what you mean by "folding up" problems. If you mean putting it
away for trailoring, it will take more time with than an R19 but people who
do it frequently have it down to about 40 minutes. If you get the mast
raising system it is doable with one person even with the heavy in-mast
furling main and furling jib (which get raised and lowered all together).
My understanding is that O'Day 22s are heavy and slow. Catalina 22s provide
good performance but not the cruising luxuries of a Rhodes 22 and if you
sail in salt water, the swing keel becomes a maintenance issue. On the R22,
the centerboard is fiberglass and the pennant is line - nothing to corrode.
Com-Pac 23s are nice boats but do not give as good upwind performance,
especially in light air. My sense is that of the 4 boats you mentioned the
R22 can be sailed well in a wider variety of conditions and it will take
you there in style. If you want to cruise, spending nights on the boat, the
R22 is better equipped and more comfortable.
If you want a good condition R22, the best way to get one is to buy
recycled from General Boats as they will have thoroughly inspected the boat
and you can have it outfitted as you wish. You pay a premium for this but
we found that it was worth it. You'll have to ask them what they are going
for these days. There are never many used Rhodes 22s around at any one time
as there are not all that many out there to begin with. General Boats buys
many of them back.
Where are you located?
Mary Lou (and Fred)
1991 R22 Fretless
Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD
At 11:49 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22. I know it a s
>totally different type of boat, as far as performance goes. My question
>to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22, Catalina,
>Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
>performance, pointing and folding up problems. What are god conditions
>used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:35:17 -0500
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Fred,
The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you already know a bit different
than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons for changing but I am
going to guess you need more room for over nighting. That being said I do
race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the other pocket cruisers that
race.
I also considered some of the boats you mentioned before purchasing the
Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were several things I didn't
like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were small cockpit and lack
of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23 every now and then. It
is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has a shoal draft like the
R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are well made though and I like
the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I am not sure what is
different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222 had a shoal draft with CB
but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I really didn't think much
of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not as nice as the Rhodes.
Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older and of course O'Day is not
around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22 and has a pop-top but I
did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are cheaper though and plenty
of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin lay out better in the
Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and stability made the Rhodes
look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am biased but I think the
Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through the chop like a much
bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same feel.
In regards to pointing ability; I think it really depends on sail plan. If
you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet inside the outer shroud
with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the shroud while providing
great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well on the upwind legs. If
you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will sacrifice pointing
ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs great but if you have crew
you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny, you would be flying your
spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it needs some TLC.
General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty. Many on this list have
purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my 84 2 years ago rom a
private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I searched for about 6 months
on the net and eventually found a boat that suited my needs and budget.
It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I was out solo last Sunday
in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had the main and genny
furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move upwind and tack through
the white caps without any problems. I never dipped the rail.
If you have any questions ask away.
Wally, Knoxille TN
>From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
>Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
>
>I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22. I know it a s
>totally different type of boat, as far as performance goes. My question
>to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22, Catalina,
>Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
>performance, pointing and folding up problems. What are god conditions
>used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:25:20 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred
To: <info at roadworksauto.com>
Cc: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Fred:
Sounds like you would use the boat like I do. It usually just me and
my wife sailing. We bring some drinks and sandwiches. I have had 5 in the
boat, but that is the exception.
I sail in South Carolina on Rummy's Lake aka Lake Hartwell. See:
http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/
And I keep my boat at Big Water Marina on the South End of the Lake.
See:
http://familyoutdoors.com/pages/bigwater.htm
The cockpit is reason enough to get the Rhodes 22. The seats are long
enough to stretch out and go to sleep (zzzzzz). Or to sit 3 on the upwind
side. If you get a furling foresail and the IMF, it has to one of the
easiest boats to sail. To me those two features allow for fast sail use and
adjustment. But if you want to race, then conventional sails are probably
more effective.
This list is not controlled by General Boats nor any specific company.
Many of the comments don't relate to sailing. Do not be fooled, the posts
are coming from folks who own and sail the R22. So ask any question.
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Ed K
-----Original Message-----
From: Info [mailto:info at roadworksauto.com]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:04 AM
To: kroposki at innova.net
Subject: RE: Fred's epinions
Importance: High
Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My reason if mostly to have more
cockpit room for guests, for them not to have to hop over cboard trunk ona
tack and duck for the boom.
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:03 AM
To: info at roadworksauto.com; 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
Subject: Fred's epinions
Fred:
There are other 'Fred's" on the list. Most on this list are
owners of R22's, but there are several owners of 19's and other Rhodes
designs. I expect others will reply to your inquiry over the next days
and weeks.
Since we moved onto this list, the site keeper, Michael Meltzer,
has kept an archive of old emails. So one thing for you to do is peruse
the old emails. Unfortunately, people change subjects without changing
the subject line very often. So, don't rely on the subject line.
Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans which maintains a
history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have written over the years.
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
You might help us better respond to your questions by telling us where
you are and where you plan to sail. There are folks who monitor this
list from Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
Ed K
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:48:53 -0600
From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Fred,
My family had a Catalina 22 when we were growing up, and I sail a Rhodes
now. I was in the market for a Catalina when I stumbled across the first
Rhodes that I had seen. From the first glance, I liked the Rhodes better.
The biggest draws to me were:
1. The cockpit is noticably bigger. We like to take other people out
sailing, and we are very comfortable with 6 adults on board. I'm not sure
that would be the case with some of the others.
2. Innermast furling. I intended from the start to sail single-handed a
lot. (Ironically, this is a feature that I ultimately decided against, but
it sure would be nice to have when those summer squalls spring up suddenly.
Even without the IMF, the Rhodes is easy to single-hand. My wife
occasionally takes it out with no crew other than non-sailing friends, and
nothing is too heavy or difficult for them to do.)
3. The Rhodes is just plain good-looking. Velvet Elvis is the nicest
looking boat in our marina, even though it is the smallest, or very close to
being the smallest.
4. As I started to research the boat a little, I realized how beneficial
the centerboard design would be. As it turns out, my favorite gunkhole is
always mine and mine alone, since smaller boats aren't comfortable for an
overnight on the hook, and larger boats are afraid to traverse the sand bar
that guards the entrance.
And although I didn't know this at the time, the customer service you get
from General Boats couldn't possibly be matched by what you would get from a
bigger company. Where else can you get on the phone with the guys who have
been building the boat for decades and have them talk you through a problem?
I've seen Stan's home phone number posted for us on this list. (I know that
I wouldn't do the same for my customers :-))
Those were the big things for me. Others are really moved by the
floatation, mast raising system, motor mount, captains chairs, etc. All of
that is great too, but I'll leave it for those who feel passionate to
elaborate.
By the way, where are you located? Maybe one of us can take you sailing
soon!
Ben
R22 Velvet Elvis
Baton Rouge
-----Original Message-----
From: Wally Buck [mailto:tnrhodey at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:35 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
Fred,
The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you already know a bit different
than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons for changing but I am
going to guess you need more room for over nighting. That being said I do
race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the other pocket cruisers that
race.
I also considered some of the boats you mentioned before purchasing the
Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were several things I didn't
like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were small cockpit and lack
of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23 every now and then. It
is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has a shoal draft like the
R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are well made though and I like
the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I am not sure what is
different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222 had a shoal draft with CB
but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I really didn't think much
of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not as nice as the Rhodes.
Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older and of course O'Day is not
around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22 and has a pop-top but I
did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are cheaper though and plenty
of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin lay out better in the
Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and stability made the Rhodes
look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am biased but I think the
Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through the chop like a much
bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same feel.
In regards to pointing ability; I think it really depends on sail plan. If
you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet inside the outer shroud
with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the shroud while providing
great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well on the upwind legs. If
you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will sacrifice pointing
ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs great but if you have crew
you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny, you would be flying your
spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it needs some TLC.
General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty. Many on this list have
purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my 84 2 years ago rom a
private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I searched for about 6 months
on the net and eventually found a boat that suited my needs and budget.
It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I was out solo last Sunday
in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had the main and genny
furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move upwind and tack through
the white caps without any problems. I never dipped the rail.
If you have any questions ask away.
Wally, Knoxille TN
>From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
>Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
>
>I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22. I know it a s
>totally different type of boat, as far as performance goes. My question
>to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22, Catalina,
>Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
>performance, pointing and folding up problems. What are god conditions
>used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
>__________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:49:58 -0600
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:07:34 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
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Ben,
You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all the ice you need for rum
and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me. Sealed the deal. How's the
new bimini working for ya?
Rummy
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:27:59 -0500
From: NAPOLI51950 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A description of '94 Bahamas trip.
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Thanks, good solutins.
Chris
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:32:04 -0600
From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
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The bimini's great. Hard to believe I sailed without it down here.
Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog mixer this holliday season.
Very good, not that you didn't know that already.
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From: R22RumRunner at aol.com [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Ben,
You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all the ice you need for rum
and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me. Sealed the deal. How's the
new bimini working for ya?
Rummy
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:38:39 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum
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Ben are you ever going to change the subject line???? I am only mentioning
it because I got this email saying ooops!
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:56:48 -0600
From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum
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Ben,
If you're mixing it with eggnog, you might as well just use Bacardi. In my
humble epinion, the only acceptable thing to add to Mt. Gay is a little ice.
I know Rummy mixes his with Coke, which is a crime in Minnesota. One of
these days he too will see the light. 8-)
Slim
On 1/9/04 3:38 PM, "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net> wrote:
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> Ben are you ever going to change the subject line???? I am only
> mentioning it because I got this email saying ooops!
> Ed K
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:59:03 -0600
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Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum
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The misspelling is growing on me now. I think I might start spelling it
like that all the time.
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:04:50 -0500
From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] R19 vs. R22 (was epinions)
To: <info at roadworksauto.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
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Fred,
I owned an O'Day Mariner for three years prior to buying my '85 recycled
Rhodes 22 from GB. The Mariner has the same hull and similar rig to an R19.
Mine was a centerboard model. IMO, the keel/centerboard on the R22 is
greatly superior to the centerboard on the Mariner
I started looking to replace the Mariner when we were expecting our first
child. We wanted something larger, more comfortable and easier to
single-hand. The R22 with IMF fit the bill best. As previously described,
the cockpit is huge, the cabin is large enough, very comfy, and very well
laid-out. I was shocked to see how much larger it looked, as I never really
did a side-by-side comparison.
I have not actually raced the R22. I have, however 'outrun' Catalina 22s
and O'Day 22s. I have outrun some Catalina 25s too. I'm pretty sure at
least some of them were trying to catch up ;-) Of course, my equipment &
sails are all brand new. Still, I have no complaints about performance.
Others on the list do race and seem to do well.
I am happy with my choice. Pretty much everybody here is, but for different
reasons. Your reasons for considering the boat are likely different from
mine. A bit more about where you sail and why you are considering a change
might be helpful in getting more specific answers.
Fair Winds
Jim Connolly
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Info
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:50 PM
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Importance: High
I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22. I know it a s totally
different type of boat, as far as performance goes. My question to anyone
who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22, Catalina, Com-pac. I do
like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind performance, pointing
and folding up problems. What are god conditions used R22's going for these
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:15:13 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
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So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US = Bulldogers,
MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
Russ
s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:16:40 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
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Asalo Palmer, Pa, new addres from NJ
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:15 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
Bulldogers,
> MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
> Russ
> s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:21:15 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
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Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us in
hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance of the
Convention Center?
Mary Lou
At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
>Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
>Russ
>s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
>
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Message: 27
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:32:46 -0600
From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hi all,
Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in Grenada
waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
Don Clarke
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us in
hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance of the
Convention Center?
Mary Lou
At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
>Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
>Russ
>s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
>
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Message: 28
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:47:50 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Russ,
Which boat is Elton bringing?
Ed K
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Message: 29
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:56:21 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up, we are at Sping Cove,
must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of you folks.
Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance but some ofr us will drive,
so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya at A/C!!!. PS Elton will also
be showing the new Seward 26RK?
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
>
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us
> in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking
> distance of
the
> Convention Center?
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
Bulldogers,
> >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
> >
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Message: 30
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:58:18 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Granada?? Waiting for the insavasion?? For shame!! A/C is the place to be!
Warm climsate?, at sacriligios!!!!
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Hi all,
Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in Grenada
waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
Don Clarke
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us in
hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance of the
Convention Center?
Mary Lou
At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
Bulldogers,
>MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
>Russ
>s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
>
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Message: 31
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:04 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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PS. Are we going to do at winter thing likr lastr Year??
Russ
s/v Bulldog
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Hi all,
Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in Grenada
waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
Don Clarke
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us in
hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance of the
Convention Center?
Mary Lou
At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
Bulldogers,
>MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
>Russ
>s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
>
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Message: 32
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:39 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: <kroposki at innova.net>, "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Both
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> Russ,
> Which boat is Elton bringing?
> Ed K
>
>
>
>
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Message: 33
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:01:03 -0500
From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Just saw my postings, beginning to look like an Meltzer clone, ????
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Hi all,
Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in Grenada
waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
Don Clarke
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us in
hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance of the
Convention Center?
Mary Lou
At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
Bulldogers,
>MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
>
>
>Russ
>s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
>
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Message: 34
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:09:55 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Don,
When would you like to do the Jam? We are available most weekends except
the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think Schaeffers worked well.
Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to hear all about it.
Mary Lou
At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in
>Grenada
>waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
>amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
>
>Don Clarke
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
>
>Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
>
>Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us
>in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance
>of the Convention Center?
>
>Mary Lou
>
>
>At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
> >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
> >
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Message: 35
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:17:35 -0600
From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Mary Lou,
Haven't given much thought to a date, still focused on warmer weather. With
your closed dates in mind I will take a shot.
Russ......you are not focused ....warm, cold, warm, cold, warm, warm, warm,
................ Warm wins.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:10 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam
Don,
When would you like to do the Jam? We are available most weekends except
the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think Schaeffers worked well.
Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to hear all about it.
Mary Lou
At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Normally Jeanne and I would be there but, instead we will be in
>Grenada
>waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink a toast to you all
>amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second annual winter Rhodes Jam.
>
>Don Clarke
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
>
>Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
>
>Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take us
>in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance
>of the Convention Center?
>
>Mary Lou
>
>
>At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
> >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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Message: 36
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:17:50 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were thinking of us -grin-
We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the logistics. Last year we
got there early and got a free parking place on the street. I don't think
I've ever been in a casino.....
I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't much care for the 25 but
it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling niches, Com-Pac is going to
have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped making the 16 and the 19
and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel centerboard sloop with a
stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender system, stainless arch.
See you there.
Mary Lou
At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up, we are at Sping
>Cove, must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of you folks.
>
>Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance but some ofr us will
>drive, so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya at A/C!!!.
>PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
>
>Russ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
>
>
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> >
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take
> > us in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking
> > distance of
>the
> > Convention Center?
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
>Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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Message: 37
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:29:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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And/Or Bourbon & 7, Rummy:-)
Steve
--- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Ben,
>
> You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> the ice you need for rum
> and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> Sealed the deal.
> How's the new bimini working for ya?
>
> Rummy
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Message: 38
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:31:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Ben
How did you end up installing the Bimini? Any pics?
Steve
--- Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com> wrote:
> The bimini's great. Hard to believe I sailed
> without it down here.
>
> Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog mixer
> this holliday season.
> Very good, not that you didn't know that already.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
>
>
> Ben,
>
> You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> the ice you need for rum
>
> and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> Sealed the deal. How's the
> new bimini working for ya?
>
> Rummy
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Message: 39
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:46:08 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred
To: "'Jim Connolly'" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>,
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, <info at roadworksauto.com>
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Jim:
Where do you keep your boat during the winter?
Ed K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Connolly [mailto:jbconnolly at comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:57 PM
To: kroposki at innova.net
Subject: RE: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred
I see, now.
I sail Salem Harbor, MA on the north shore (with respect to Boston).
Or as we say up here "noth shoah"
BTW, I have had eight in the cockpit. At 6'1" the boom barely hits my head
standing in the cockpit, so sailing while sitting should be safe for all.
There is no centerboard trunk intruding into the cockpit as there is in the
Mariner. Hopping over the trunk while tacking was a major pain (quite
literally).
Jim Connolly
-----Original Message-----
From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:40 PM
To: 'Jim Connolly'
Subject: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred
Jim:
I guess you missed his reply to my question. He said he sails Cape
Cod. I thought that you sailed somewhere up there?
Ed K
"Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My reason if mostly to have
more cockpit room for guests, for them not to have to hop over cboard trunk
ona tack and duck for the boom. Fred"
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Message: 40
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:58:43 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Mary Lou,
Have you noticed that since the announcement about the Seaward 26,
Stan has not been on the list? Has he communicated to anyone or has he
simply sailed away? Maybe nobody has made a political statement lately?
Ed K
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were thinking of us -grin-
We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the logistics. Last year we
got there early and got a free parking place on the street. I don't think
I've ever been in a casino.....
I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't much care for the 25 but
it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling niches, Com-Pac is going to
have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped making the 16 and the 19
and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel centerboard sloop with a
stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender system, stainless arch.
See you there.
Mary Lou
At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up, we are at Sping
Cove,
>must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of you folks.
>
>Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance but some ofr us will
drive,
>so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
>See ya at A/C!!!.
>PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
>
>Russ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
>
>
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> >
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect someone to take
us in
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within walking distance
of
>the
> > Convention Center?
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us Sat night? (US =
>Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall, MD
> > >
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Message: 41
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:15:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hey Ed
If a political statement is needed; I'm willing to
step up to the plate:-)
Steve
--- Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net> wrote:
> Mary Lou,
> Have you noticed that since the announcement about
> the Seaward
> 26, Stan has not been on the list? Has he
> communicated to anyone or has
> he simply sailed away? Maybe nobody has made a
> political statement
> lately?
> Ed K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
>
> Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> thinking of us -grin-
>
> We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the logistics. Last
> year we
> got there early and got a free parking place on the
> street. I don't
> think
> I've ever been in a casino.....
>
> I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> much care for the 25
> but
> it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> niches, Com-Pac is going
> to
> have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> making the 16 and the
> 19
> and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> centerboard sloop with a
>
> stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> system, stainless arch.
>
> See you there.
>
> Mary Lou
>
> At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> we are at Sping
> Cove,
> >must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of
> you folks.
> >
> >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> but some ofr us will
> drive,
> >so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
> >See ya at A/C!!!.
> >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> >
> >Russ
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> >
> >
> > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> expect someone to take
> us in
> > > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> within walking distance
> of
> >the
> > > Convention Center?
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going?? W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US =
> >Bulldogers,
> > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
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Message: 42
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:24:58 -0500
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <000701c3d7d0$f9feca60$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Subject: Is this true?
For those of you who check out the veracity of re posts to the list, is the
quote that was sent to me true?
Ed K
Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn
I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it is a great answer from
John Glenn.
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do
for a living. This exchange Between Senators John Glenn and Sen. Howard
Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive and
impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of
why men and women in the Armed Services do what they do for a living. This
is a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think
of the Military.
Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when you've
never held a "real job?"
Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I
served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by
antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my Life
on the line. It was not a nine to five job, where I took time off to take
the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me ... as I went
the other day... to a Veterans Hospital and look those men - with their
mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the
widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...and you look
those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery,
where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch
those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about this Nation, and
you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of
your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN - who held REAL
job. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a love of country and
a dedication to duty - that was more important than life itself. And their
self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.
I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?"
For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an
attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA. Now he is a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher....
If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran
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Message: 43
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:59:00 -0600
From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <200401101759.01287.sanderico at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ed,
Snopes says TRUE. I say, too bad John didn't get up and kick Howard's ass!!!
He would have remembered that a lot longer than a little ass chewing. :-)
Rik
On 01/10/2004 05:24 pm, Kroposki wrote:
> Subject: Is this true?
>
> For those of you who check out the veracity of re posts to the list,
> is the quote that was sent to me true?
> Ed K
>
> Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn
>
> I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it is a great answer
> from John Glenn.
>
> Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they
> do for a living. This exchange Between Senators John Glenn and Sen.
> Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive
> and impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's
> explanation of why men and women in the Armed Services do what they do
> for a living. This is a typical, though sad, example of what some who
> have never served think of the Military.
>
> Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when
> you've never held a "real job?"
>
> Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I
> served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by
> antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
>
> I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my
> Life on the line. It was not a nine to five job, where I took time off
> to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me
> ... as I went the other day... to a Veterans Hospital and look those
> men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they
> didn't hold a job!
>
> You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to
> the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger
> Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their
> DADS didn't hold a job.
>
> You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National
> Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember,
> and you watch those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about
> this Nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
>
> I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every
> day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN -
> who held REAL job. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a
> love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more important
> than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country
> possible.
>
> I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?"
>
> For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an
> attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA. Now he is a
> Senator!
>
> If you can read this, thank a teacher....
> If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 44
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:43:27 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "CT" <ctscuba at aquaticworlds.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, <kroposki at innova.net>,
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
<40008E1F.000003.35909 at home-laptop.frtprk01.fl.comcast.net>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Yes, it is true.
If you wonder about some of the stories on the net (and you should), I refer
you to www.snopes.com
All the best,
CT
-------Original Message-------
From: kroposki at innova.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2004 06:25:17 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
Subject: Is this true?
For those of you who check out the veracity of re posts to the list, is the
quote that was sent to me true? Ed K
Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn
I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it is a great answer from
John Glenn.
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Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget norhteast. The old Hudson is
freezing up quickley this week. Does anyones older boat have the top of the
roller fr.jib/forstay attached to a halyard? Same question concerning
rollermain. It seams my boats sails are fixed at the top of the mast but the
provision
is there to hook up halyards so these sails can be removed with the mast up.
If
I add a seperate forstay I can drop the roll.jib set up back a bit to a
fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck. It doesn't seam like a
bad
idea to me since my sails might need some work after the boat is in the
water.
The notion of removing them while the mast is up is one I like. Anyone see
a
problem?
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Message: 45
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:58:34 -0500
From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging question
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <022701c3d7e6$6ba08e00$6501a8c0 at mjm2>
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sound like are trying to reinvent the CDI fuler, the F2 with ballbarring are
not that expenive, should be alot less hassels in the end and know to work.
MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging question
> Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget norhteast. The old
> Hudson is freezing up quickley this week. Does anyones older boat
> have the top of the roller fr.jib/forstay attached to a halyard? Same
> question concerning rollermain. It seams my boats sails are fixed at
> the top of the mast but the provision is there to hook up halyards so
> these sails can be removed with the mast up. If I add a seperate forstay
I can drop the roll.jib set up back a bit to a
> fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck. It doesn't seam like
a bad
> idea to me since my sails might need some work after the boat is in
> the water. The notion of removing them while the mast is up is one I
> like. Anyone see a problem?
> __________________________________________________
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