[Rhodes22-list] RE: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 383, Issue 1

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 12 16:50:22 EST 2004


Dear, Web Master
Please send me 1 million dollars, all 20,
non-consective serial numbers.
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Steve

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>    1. Mississsippi (Kroposki)
>    2. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> Kaynor)
>    3. RE: Mississsippi (Ben Schultz)
>    4. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Bob
> Weber)
>    5. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> Kaynor)
>    6. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob
> Lowe)
>    7. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob
> Lowe)
>    8. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> Kaynor)
>    9. Where is Stan (Kroposki)
>   10. epinions (Info)
>   11. Fred's epinions (Kroposki)
>   12. Re: epinions (Mary Lou Troy)
>   13. RE: epinions (Wally Buck)
>   14. Cape Cod Fred  (Kroposki)
>   15. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
>   16. RE: epinions/opinions (Ben Schultz)
>   17. Re: epinions (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
>   18. Re: A description of '94 Bahamas trip.
> (NAPOLI51950 at aol.com)
>   19. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
>   20. Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Kroposki)
>   21. Re: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Steve
> Alm)
>   22. RE: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Ben
> Schultz)
>   23. RE: R19 vs. R22 (was epinions)  (Jim Connolly)
>   24. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
>   25. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> Miller)
>   26. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
>   27. RE: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Clarke, Donald
> R (Don), NEO)
>   28. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
>   29. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> Miller)
>   30. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> Miller)
>   31. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> Miller)
>   32. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
>   33. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> Miller)
>   34. 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Mary Lou Troy)
>   35. RE: 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Clarke,
> Donald R (Don), NEO)
>   36. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
>   37. Re: epinions (Steve)
>   38. RE: epinions (Steve)
>   39. Cape Cod Fred  (Kroposki)
>   40. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
>   41. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Steve)
>   42. FW: Is this true? (Kroposki)
>   43. Re: FW: Is this true? (Rik Sandberg)
>   44. Re: FW: Is this true? (CT)
>   45. Re: general rigging question (Michael Meltzer)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:52:22 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <001401c3d5f7$08fd1cf0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> Ben:
> 	You might be interested in this guys book:
> 
> www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
> 
> But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail
> in these waters. Humpf!
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                                 Ed K              
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:08:17 -0500
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCKEPMDLAA.mark at kaynor.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Mary Lou,
> 
> He told me a story about running aground on the ICW.
> A big powerboat that
> was going by so he called it on the VHF and asked
> the guy to give him some
> big wake. The guy obliged and they were able to back
> off on the wave crests.
> Imagine that - useful wake <g>.
> 
> The bottom of the keel looks like that because, in
> her current slip, she's
> in the mud at low tide. Surveyor said no problem,
> though, everything's solid
> and the anti-fouling paint is fine under the
> discoloration, though.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:20 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> Mark,
> Sounds like the voice of experience. Actually
> looking at the bottom of the
> keel......
> 
> We haven't tried looking for high speed access on
> the water - heck we are
> finally going to broadband here at home.
> 
> If you keep the boat in MD they'll want their piece
> of your pie. 5% excise
> unless you've already paid that amount or more to
> another state. If that's
> not a problem, you could get to Deale up 301 and
> stay outside of the
> Beltway, Solomons too.
> 
> Keep us informed.
> 
> ML
> 
> At 10:08 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Mary Lou,
> >
> >Yeah - that 15 hp ought to give some decent pull on
> a halyard <g>. And, 
> >according to the PO, it will handle carrying the
> kedging hook no
> problem....
> >
> >Ever tried to find a slip at a marina w/ high speed
> access? Neither had 
> >we. It's not as easy as we thought. The places we
> like also happen to 
> >be, by their very nature, a bit away from
> civilization. No reason we 
> >can't have both, though - we just need to look hard
> enough and, maybe, 
> >convince
> someone
> >we know what were doing and can set them up w/
> Wi-Fi for the marina 
> ><g>.
> >
> >Haven't looked at Deale yet, but one of our
> requirements is not to have 
> >to deal with the DC / beltway traffic.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:57 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> >
> >
> >You'll be glad for the dinghy with the 5'8' draft.
> You could do Swan 
> >Creek but you'll need to be careful and watch the
> tides.
> >
> >I would think cable might be easier to find than
> DSL. You might have to 
> >look closer to the cities - Norfolk? or further
> North - Annapolis? 
> >Baltimore? Deale's not a big city but might have
> access.
> >
> >What a beautiful boat - did I say congratulations?
> >
> >ML
> >
> >
> >At 09:13 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Don,
> > >
> > >No marina yet - we're trying to find a slip w/
> high-speed Internet 
> > >access on/near the Rappahannock so we can "work
> from home" until 
> > >we're ready to take off. Unfortunately, given the
> work we do, 
> > >satellite and cellular wireless are pretty much
> out, due to low 
> > >upload speed. Not as easy to
> find
> > >DSL or cable as we originally thought.
> > >
> > >We found one so far, but we didn't like the
> location/marina as much 
> > >as
> some
> > >others we've visited - unfortunately, our
> favorite one has no 
> > >high-speed access available, and our second pick
> had so much damage 
> > >from Isabel, we won't know if we'll have a slip
> until March or April. 
> > >Guess we'll know something before too long...
> > >
> > >Oh yeah - rides always available for Rhodies when
> we're aboard - 
> > >maybe
> >we'll
> > >be able to make the Swan Creek get together again
> next Memorial Day - 
> > >if
> >so,
> > >we'll be glad to host the raft up <g>.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> Behalf Of Clarke, 
> > >Donald R (Don), NEO
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:59 PM
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues
> - cure found
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mark,
> > >
> > >This is very cool, I am so  jealous, where are
> you going keep it?
> > >
> > >Hope you are giving rides!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >From:   Mark Kaynor [mailto:mark at kaynor.org]
> > >Sent:   Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:02 PM
> > >To:     rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >Cc:     Julie Kaynor
> > >Subject:        [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing
> blues - cure found
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's
> been on the hard has 
> > >been tough for us, Christmas parade float
> notwithstanding. The 
> > >weather doesn't help much, either - Sunday we
> were sitting on the 
> > >patio in our shirt
> >sleeves
> > >having a beer with some friends, and this morning
> we woke up to a
> blustery
> >8
> > >degrees F. Sheesh.
> > >
> > >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit
> weak-minded), we decided to do 
> > >something about it.
> > >
> > >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> signed the papers to 
> > >buy a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on
> deck, 3 1/2 feet 
> > >wider, and
> >about
> > >10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be big
> enough to distract us 
> > >from
> >these
> > >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> winter (or the one 
> > >after
> > >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> go through this sort of
> > >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> again, anyway <g>.
> > >
> > >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> the SSCA gam in
> >Melbourne,
> > >FL last November, but we didn't want to say
> anything until it was a 
> > >done deal - you know how these things sometimes
> go. We're bringing 
> > >her up to
> the
> > >Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually
> spend more and more time
> >aboard
> > >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> living aboard and
> heading
> > >south. Time'll tell...
> > >
> > >Here's a link to some pictures -
> http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> > >
> > >Mark Kaynor
> > >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:14:55 -0600 
> From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Thanks Ed.  I saw his post on the Gulf Coast sailnet
> list too.  I'm
> definitely interested.  The Mississippi coast has
> some great sailing,
> although it takes me a couple of days to get out
> there.  One of these days,
> I'll have to get a trailer.  I do sometimes go
> canoe/kayak out there.  It's
> really nice, but I don't know the good places to go.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:52 AM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> 
> 
> 
> Ben:
> 	You might be interested in this guys book:
> 
> www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
> 
> But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail
> in these waters. Humpf!
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                                 Ed K              
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:16:32 -0600
> From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> exact boat that exist only 
> in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> ornate wood and serious 
> not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious
> blue water boat.  Please 
> keep the list updated on your preparation and plans.
>  Did you have much 
> trouble convincing your wife about changing
> lifestyles?  Bob Weber
> 
> 
> >From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been
> on the hard has been 
> >tough for us, Christmas parade float
> notwithstanding. The weather 
> >doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting
> on the patio in our 
> >shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and
> this morning we woke 
> >up to a blustery 8
> >degrees F. Sheesh.
> >
> >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded),
> we decided to do 
> >something about it.
> >
> >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> signed the papers to buy 
> >a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck,
> 3 1/2 feet wider, 
> >and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be
> big enough to 
> >distract us from these
> >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> winter (or the one after
> >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> go through this sort of
> >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> again, anyway <g>.
> >
> >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> the SSCA gam in
> >Melbourne,
> >FL last November, but we didn't want to say
> anything until it was a done
> >deal - you know how these things sometimes go.
> We're bringing her up to the
> >Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually spend
> more and more time 
> >aboard
> >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> living aboard and heading
> >south. Time'll tell...
> >
> >Here's a link to some pictures -
> http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> >
> >Mark Kaynor
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
>
_________________________________________________________________
> Expand your wine savvy - and get some great new
> recipes - at MSN Wine. 
> http://wine.msn.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:38:24 -0500
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCAEPODLAA.mark at kaynor.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive - two
> of the best boats around
> and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> possible w/ me on both. And we
> work together, too - go figure <g>.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of Bob Weber
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> exact boat that exist only
> in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> ornate wood and serious
> not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious
> blue water boat.  Please
> keep the list updated on your preparation and plans.
>  Did you have much
> trouble convincing your wife about changing
> lifestyles?  Bob Weber
> 
> 
> >From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been
> on the hard has been 
> >tough for us, Christmas parade float
> notwithstanding. The weather 
> >doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting
> on the patio in our 
> >shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and
> this morning we woke 
> >up to a blustery 8
> >degrees F. Sheesh.
> >
> >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded),
> we decided to do 
> >something about it.
> >
> >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> signed the papers to buy 
> >a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck,
> 3 1/2 feet wider, 
> >and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be
> big enough to 
> >distract us from these
> >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> winter (or the one after
> >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> go through this sort of
> >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> again, anyway <g>.
> >
> >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> the SSCA gam in 
> >Melbourne, FL last November, but we didn't want to
> say anything until 
> >it was a done deal - you know how these things
> sometimes go. We're 
> >bringing her up to the Chesapeake next spring and
> plan to gradually 
> >spend more and more time aboard
> >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> living aboard and heading
> >south. Time'll tell...
> >
> >Here's a link to some pictures -
> http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> >
> >Mark Kaynor
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
>
_________________________________________________________________
> Expand your wine savvy - and get some great new
> recipes - at MSN Wine.
> http://wine.msn.com
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:40:06 -0500
> From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <011e01c3d5fd$b0ab89e0$58ac52c6 at ehss.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Bob,
> Knowing Julie as I do, I expect it was the other way
> around! - Rob
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> > Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> exact boat that exist
> only
> > in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> ornate wood and 
> > serious not so ornate fittings that show this is a
> serious blue water 
> > boat.
> Please
> > keep the list updated on your preparation and
> plans.  Did you have 
> > much trouble convincing your wife about changing
> lifestyles?  Bob 
> > Weber
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:42:40 -0500
> From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <014801c3d606$6e30ddf0$58ac52c6 at ehss.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Mark,
> I'd have to say you're correct.  Especially after
> hearing your stories about
> "the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> > Bob,
> >
> > I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive -
> two of the best boats
> around
> > and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> possible w/ me on both. 
> > And
> we
> > work together, too - go figure <g>.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:51:34 -0500
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Rob,
> 
> Haha. Yes, that would be another set of stories (and
> another life),
> completely <g>.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of Rob Lowe
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:43 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> Mark,
> I'd have to say you're correct.  Especially after
> hearing your stories about
> "the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> cure found
> 
> 
> > Bob,
> >
> > I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive -
> two of the best boats
> around
> > and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> possible w/ me on both. 
> > And
> we
> > work together, too - go figure <g>.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:24:31 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Where is Stan
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> 
> Michael,
> 	Stan has been quite these days.  Is he out of town?
>  Maybe at:
> 
> http://www.houstonboatshows.com/
> 
> The weather might be warmer there.
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                                         Ed K
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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> I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> I know it a s totally
> different type of boat, as far as performance goes.
> My question to anyone
> who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22,
> Catalina, Com-pac. I do
> like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
> performance, pointing
> and folding up problems. What are god conditions
> used R22's going for these
> days. Thanks, Fred.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:02:33 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fred's epinions
> To: <info at roadworksauto.com>,	"'The Rhodes 22 mail
> list'"
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Fred:
> 	There are other 'Fred's" on the list.  Most on this
> list are owners
> of R22's, but there are several owners of 19's and
> other Rhodes designs.  I
> expect others will reply to your inquiry over the
> next days and weeks.
> 	Since we moved onto this list, the site keeper,
> Michael Meltzer, has
> kept an archive of old emails.  So one thing for you
> to do is peruse the old
> emails.  Unfortunately, people change subjects
> without changing the subject
> line very often.  So, don't rely on the subject
> line.
> 	Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans
> which maintains a
> history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
> 
> Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have
> written over the years.
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
> 
> 
> You might help us better respond to your questions
> by telling us where you
> are and where you plan to sail.  There are folks who
> monitor this list from
> Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
>                                 Ed K
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:12 -0500
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Fred,
> I've only sailed a Rhodes 19 once but it was a sweet
> boat. If you go with a 
> Rhodes 22 the standard 175 furling genoa and sail
> with it rolled up a lot 
> and with the in-mast main, the upwind performance
> will be good but not as 
> good as your R19.
> 
> Not sure what you mean by "folding up" problems. If
> you mean putting it 
> away for trailoring, it will take more time with
> than an R19 but people who 
> do it frequently have it down to about 40 minutes.
> If you get the mast 
> raising system it is doable with one person even
> with the heavy in-mast 
> furling main and furling jib (which get raised and
> lowered all together).
> 
> My understanding is that O'Day 22s are heavy and
> slow. Catalina 22s provide 
> good performance but not the cruising luxuries of a
> Rhodes 22 and if you 
> sail in salt water, the swing keel becomes a
> maintenance issue. On the R22, 
> the centerboard is fiberglass and the pennant is
> line - nothing to corrode. 
> Com-Pac 23s are nice boats but do not give as good
> upwind performance, 
> especially in light air. My sense is that  of the 4
> boats you mentioned the 
> R22 can be sailed well in a wider variety of
> conditions and it will take 
> you there in style. If you want to cruise, spending
> nights on the boat, the 
> R22 is better equipped and more comfortable.
> 
> If you want a good condition R22, the best way to
> get one is to buy 
> recycled from General Boats as they will have
> thoroughly inspected the boat 
> and you can have it outfitted as you wish. You pay a
> premium for this but 
> we found that it was worth it. You'll have to ask
> them what they are going 
> for these days. There are never many used Rhodes 22s
> around at any one time 
> as there are not all that many out there to begin
> with. General Boats buys 
> many of them back.
> 
> Where are you located?
> 
> Mary Lou (and Fred)
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD
> 
> 
> At 11:49 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> I know it a s 
> >totally different type of boat, as far as
> performance goes. My question 
> >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> Oday 22, Catalina, 
> >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> concerned with upwind 
> >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> are god conditions 
> >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:35:17 -0500
> From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> 
> Fred,
> 
> The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you
> already know a bit different
> 
> than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons
> for changing but I am 
> going to guess you need more room for over nighting.
> That being said I do 
> race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the
> other pocket cruisers that
> 
> race.
> 
> I also considered some of the boats you mentioned
> before purchasing the 
> Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were
> several things I didn't 
> like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were
> small cockpit and lack 
> of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23
>  every now and then. It
> 
> is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has
> a shoal draft like the 
> R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are
> well made though and I like
> 
> the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
> 
> For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I
> am not sure what is 
> different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222
> had a shoal draft with CB 
> but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I
> really didn't think much 
> of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not
> as nice as the Rhodes. 
> Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older
> and of course O'Day is not
> 
> around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
> 
> The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22
> and has a pop-top but I 
> did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are
> cheaper though and plenty 
> of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin
> lay out better in the 
> Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and
> stability made the Rhodes 
> look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am
> biased but I think the 
> Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through
> the chop like a much 
> bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same
> feel.
> 
> In regards to pointing ability; I think it really
> depends on sail plan. If 
> you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet
> inside the outer shroud
> 
> with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the
> shroud while providing 
> great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well
> on the upwind legs. If 
> you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will
> sacrifice pointing 
> ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs
> great but if you have crew 
> you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny,
> you would be flying your 
> spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it
> needs some TLC.
> 
> General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty.
> Many on this list have 
> purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my
> 84 2 years ago rom a 
> private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I
> searched for about 6 months 
> on the net and eventually found a boat that suited
> my needs and budget.
> 
> It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I
> was out solo last Sunday
> 
> in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had
> the main and genny 
> furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move
> upwind and tack through
> 
> the white caps without any problems. I never dipped
> the rail.
> 
> If you have any questions ask away.
> 
> Wally,  Knoxille TN
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> >Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
> list
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> >
> >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> I know it a s 
> >totally different type of boat, as far as
> performance goes. My question 
> >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> Oday 22, Catalina, 
> >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> concerned with upwind 
> >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> are god conditions 
> >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:25:20 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred 
> To: <info at roadworksauto.com>
> Cc: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> 
> Fred:
> 
>       Sounds like you would use the boat like I do. 
> It usually just me and
> my wife sailing.  We bring some drinks and
> sandwiches.  I have had 5 in the
> boat, but that is the exception.
> 
>       I sail in South Carolina on Rummy's Lake aka
> Lake Hartwell.  See:
> 
> http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/
> 
> And I keep my boat at Big Water Marina on the South
> End of the Lake.
> See:
> 
> http://familyoutdoors.com/pages/bigwater.htm
> 
>       The cockpit is reason enough to get the Rhodes
> 22.  The seats are long
> enough to stretch out and go to sleep (zzzzzz).  Or
> to sit 3 on the upwind
> side.  If you get a furling foresail and the IMF, it
> has to one of the
> easiest boats to sail.  To me those two features
> allow for fast sail use and
> adjustment.  But if you want to race, then
> conventional sails are probably
> more effective.
> 
>       This list is not controlled by General Boats
> nor any specific company.
> Many of the comments don't relate to sailing.  Do
> not be fooled, the posts
> are coming from folks who own and sail the R22.  So
> ask any question.
> 
>  
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
>                Ed K
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info [mailto:info at roadworksauto.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:04 AM
> To: kroposki at innova.net
> Subject: RE: Fred's epinions
> Importance: High
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My
> reason if mostly to have more
> 
> cockpit room for guests, for them not to have to hop
> over cboard trunk ona
> 
> tack and duck for the boom.
> 
>  
> 
> Fred
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net]
> 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:03 AM
> 
> To: info at roadworksauto.com; 'The Rhodes 22 mail
> list'
> 
> Subject: Fred's epinions
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Fred:
> 
>       There are other 'Fred's" on the list.  Most on
> this list are
> 
> owners of R22's, but there are several owners of
> 19's and other Rhodes
> 
> designs.  I expect others will reply to your inquiry
> over the next days
> 
> and weeks.
> 
>       Since we moved onto this list, the site
> keeper, Michael Meltzer,
> 
> has kept an archive of old emails.  So one thing for
> you to do is peruse
> 
> the old emails.  Unfortunately, people change
> subjects without changing
> 
> the subject line very often.  So, don't rely on the
> subject line.
> 
>       Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans
> which maintains a
> 
> history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
> 
>  
> 
> Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have
> written over the years.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> You might help us better respond to your questions
> by telling us where
> 
> you are and where you plan to sail.  There are folks
> who monitor this
> 
> list from Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
> 
>                                 Ed K
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:48:53 -0600 
> From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> 
> Fred,
> 
> My family had a Catalina 22 when we were growing up,
> and I sail a Rhodes
> now.  I was in the market for a Catalina when I
> stumbled across the first
> Rhodes that I had seen.  From the first glance, I
> liked the Rhodes better.
> The biggest draws to me were:
> 
> 1.  The cockpit is noticably bigger.  We like to
> take other people out
> sailing, and we are very comfortable with 6 adults
> on board.  I'm not sure
> that would be the case with some of the others.
> 
> 2.  Innermast furling.  I intended from the start to
> sail single-handed a
> lot.  (Ironically, this is a feature that I
> ultimately decided against, but
> it sure would be nice to have when those summer
> squalls spring up suddenly.
> Even without the IMF, the Rhodes is easy to
> single-hand.  My wife
> occasionally takes it out with no crew other than
> non-sailing friends, and
> nothing is too heavy or difficult for them to do.)
> 
> 3.  The Rhodes is just plain good-looking.  Velvet
> Elvis is the nicest
> looking boat in our marina, even though it is the
> smallest, or very close to
> being the smallest.
> 
> 4.  As I started to research the boat a little, I
> realized how beneficial
> the centerboard design would be.  As it turns out,
> my favorite gunkhole is
> always mine and mine alone, since smaller boats
> aren't comfortable for an
> overnight on the hook, and larger boats are afraid
> to traverse the sand bar
> that guards the entrance.
> 
> 
> And although I didn't know this at the time, the
> customer service you get
> from General Boats couldn't possibly be matched by
> what you would get from a
> bigger company.  Where else can you get on the phone
> with the guys who have
> been building the boat for decades and have them
> talk you through a problem?
> I've seen Stan's home phone number posted for us on
> this list.  (I know that
> I wouldn't do the same for my customers :-))
> 
> 
> Those were the big things for me.  Others are really
> moved by the
> floatation, mast raising system, motor mount,
> captains chairs, etc.  All of
> that is great too, but I'll leave it for those who
> feel passionate to
> elaborate.
> 
> By the way, where are you located?  Maybe one of us
> can take you sailing
> soon!
> 
> Ben 
> R22 Velvet Elvis
> Baton Rouge
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wally Buck [mailto:tnrhodey at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:35 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> 
> 
> Fred,
> 
> The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you
> already know a bit different
> 
> than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons
> for changing but I am 
> going to guess you need more room for over nighting.
> That being said I do 
> race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the
> other pocket cruisers that
> 
> race.
> 
> I also considered some of the boats you mentioned
> before purchasing the 
> Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were
> several things I didn't 
> like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were
> small cockpit and lack 
> of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23
>  every now and then. It
> 
> is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has
> a shoal draft like the 
> R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are
> well made though and I like
> 
> the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
> 
> For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I
> am not sure what is 
> different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222
> had a shoal draft with CB 
> but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I
> really didn't think much 
> of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not
> as nice as the Rhodes. 
> Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older
> and of course O'Day is not
> 
> around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
> 
> The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22
> and has a pop-top but I 
> did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are
> cheaper though and plenty 
> of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin
> lay out better in the 
> Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and
> stability made the Rhodes 
> look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am
> biased but I think the 
> Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through
> the chop like a much 
> bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same
> feel.
> 
> In regards to pointing ability; I think it really
> depends on sail plan. If 
> you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet
> inside the outer shroud
> 
> with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the
> shroud while providing 
> great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well
> on the upwind legs. If 
> you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will
> sacrifice pointing 
> ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs
> great but if you have crew 
> you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny,
> you would be flying your 
> spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it
> needs some TLC.
> 
> General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty.
> Many on this list have 
> purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my
> 84 2 years ago rom a 
> private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I
> searched for about 6 months 
> on the net and eventually found a boat that suited
> my needs and budget.
> 
> It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I
> was out solo last Sunday
> 
> in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had
> the main and genny 
> furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move
> upwind and tack through
> 
> the white caps without any problems. I never dipped
> the rail.
> 
> If you have any questions ask away.
> 
> Wally,  Knoxille TN
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> >Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
> list 
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> >
> >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> I know it a s
> >totally different type of boat, as far as
> performance goes. My question 
> >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> Oday 22, Catalina, 
> >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> concerned with upwind 
> >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> are god conditions 
> >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:49:58 -0600 
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:07:34 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <13.26db604e.2d306406 at aol.com>
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> 
> Ben,
> 
> You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> the ice you need for rum
> 
> and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> Sealed the deal. How's the
> new bimini working for ya?
> 
> Rummy
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:27:59 -0500
> From: NAPOLI51950 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A description of '94
> Bahamas trip.
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 mail
> list)
> Message-ID: <4F6F83E7.4B2E907C.37494B9B at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Thanks, good solutins.  
> Chris
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:32:04 -0600 
> From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> 
> The bimini's great.  Hard to believe I sailed
> without it down here.
> 
> Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog mixer
> this holliday season.
> Very good, not that you didn't know that already.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> the ice you need for rum
> 
> and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> Sealed the deal. How's the
> new bimini working for ya?
> 
> Rummy
> __________________________________________________
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:38:39 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt.
> Gay Rum
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> line???? I am only mentioning
> it because I got this email saying ooops!
>                                     Ed K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:56:48 -0600
> From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about
> Mt. Gay Rum
> To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <BC247FC0.4A4D%salm at mn.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Ben,
> 
> If you're mixing it with eggnog, you might as well
> just use Bacardi.  In my
> humble epinion, the only acceptable thing to add to
> Mt. Gay is a little ice.
> I know Rummy mixes his with Coke, which is a crime
> in Minnesota.  One of
> these days he too will see the light.  8-)
> 
> Slim
> 
> On 1/9/04 3:38 PM, "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> line???? I am only 
> > mentioning it because I got this email saying
> ooops!
> >                                   Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:59:03 -0600 
> From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about
> Mt. Gay Rum
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> The misspelling is growing on me now.  I think I
> might start spelling it
> like that all the time. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:39 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt.
> Gay Rum
> 
> 
> 
> Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> line???? I am only mentioning
> it because I got this email saying ooops!
>                                     Ed K
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:04:50 -0500
> From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] R19 vs. R22 (was
> epinions) 
> To: <info at roadworksauto.com>,	"'The Rhodes 22 mail
> list'"
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>
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> 
>  Fred,
> 
> I owned an O'Day Mariner for three years prior to
> buying my '85 recycled
> Rhodes 22 from GB.  The Mariner has the same hull
> and similar rig to an R19.
> Mine was a centerboard model.  IMO, the
> keel/centerboard on the R22 is
> greatly superior to the centerboard on the Mariner
> 
> I started looking to replace the Mariner when we
> were expecting our first
> child.  We wanted something larger, more comfortable
> and easier to
> single-hand.  The R22 with IMF fit the bill best. 
> As previously described,
> the cockpit is huge, the cabin is large enough, very
> comfy, and very well
> laid-out.  I was shocked to see how much larger it
> looked, as I never really
> did a side-by-side comparison.
> 
> I have not actually raced the R22.  I have, however
> 'outrun' Catalina 22s
> and O'Day 22s.  I have outrun some Catalina 25s too.
>  I'm pretty sure at
> least some of them were trying to catch up ;-)  Of
> course, my equipment &
> sails are all brand new.  Still, I have no
> complaints about performance.
> Others on the list do race and seem to do well.
> 
> I am happy with my choice.  Pretty much everybody
> here is, but for different
> reasons.  Your reasons for considering the boat are
> likely different from
> mine.  A bit more about where you sail and why you
> are considering a change
> might be helpful in getting more specific answers.
> 
> Fair Winds
> 
> Jim Connolly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Info
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:50 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> Importance: High
> 
> I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> I know it a s totally
> different type of boat, as far as performance goes.
> My question to anyone
> who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22,
> Catalina, Com-pac. I do
> like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
> performance, pointing
> and folding up problems. What are god conditions
> used R22's going for these
> days. Thanks, Fred.
> __________________________________________________
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:15:13 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <002b01c3d706$6fa53720$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US = Bulldogers,
> MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> 
> 
> Russ
> s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:16:40 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <003701c3d706$a388c110$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Asalo Palmer, Pa, new addres from NJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:15 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> 
> 
> > So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US =
> Bulldogers,
> > MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> > Russ
> > s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 26
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:21:15 -0500
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>
<5.1.0.14.0.20040109181821.00b90390 at mail1.netreach.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> format=flowed
> 
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> 
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us in 
> hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> walking distance of the 
> Convention Center?
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US = 
> >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 27
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:32:46 -0600
> From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in Grenada
> waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all
> amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> 
> Don Clarke
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net] 
> Sent:	Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject:	Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> 
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us in 
> hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> walking distance of the 
> Convention Center?
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US = 
> >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 28
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:47:50 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <000d01c3d70a$ff1a3be0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Russ,
> 	Which boat is Elton bringing?  
>                                    Ed K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 29
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:56:21 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <004501c3d70c$2ed92cf0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> we are at Sping Cove,
> must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of
> you folks.
> 
> Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance but
> some ofr us will drive,
> so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya at
> A/C!!!. PS Elton will also
> be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> 
> Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> >
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us 
> > in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> within walking 
> > distance of
> the
> > Convention Center?
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> >
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US =
> Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 30
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:58:18 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <004d01c3d70c$748357d0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Granada?? Waiting for the insavasion??  For shame!!
> A/C is the place to be!
> Warm climsate?, at sacriligios!!!!
> 
> Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in Grenada
> waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all
> amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> 
> Don Clarke
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> 
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us in
> hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> walking distance of the
> Convention Center?
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US =
> Bulldogers,
> >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 31
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:04 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <005101c3d70c$8f8da530$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> PS.  Are we going to do at winter thing likr lastr
> Year??
> 
> Russ
> s/v Bulldog
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in Grenada
> waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all
> amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> 
> Don Clarke
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> 
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us in
> hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> walking distance of the
> Convention Center?
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US =
> Bulldogers,
> >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 32
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:39 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> To: <kroposki at innova.net>,	"The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <005701c3d70c$a49c9350$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Both
> 
> Russ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> 
> 
> > Russ,
> > Which boat is Elton bringing?  
> >                                    Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 33
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:01:03 -0500
> From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <006501c3d70c$d6c4ffc0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Just saw my postings, beginning to look like an
> Meltzer clone, ????
> 
> Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in Grenada
> waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all
> amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> 
> Don Clarke
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> 
> Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us in
> hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> walking distance of the
> Convention Center?
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> night? (US =
> Bulldogers,
> >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> >
> >
> >Russ
> >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> MD
> >
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> Message: 34
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:09:55 -0500
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter
> Jam
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>
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> 
> Don,
> When would you like to do the Jam? We are available
> most weekends except 
> the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think
> Schaeffers worked well.
> 
> Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to
> hear all about it.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in 
> >Grenada
> >waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all 
> >amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> >
> >Don Clarke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >From:   Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> >Sent:   Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> >To:     The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject:        Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show
> Jan 17 ( Sat)
> >
> >Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> >
> >Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us 
> >in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> within walking distance 
> >of the Convention Center?
> >
> >Mary Lou
> >
> >
> >At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US = 
> > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 35
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:17:35 -0600
> From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes
> Winter Jam
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> 
> Mary Lou,
> 
> Haven't given much thought to a date, still focused
> on warmer weather. With
> your closed dates in mind I will take a shot.
> 
> Russ......you are not focused ....warm, cold, warm,
> cold, warm, warm, warm,
> ................ Warm wins.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net] 
> Sent:	Friday, January 09, 2004 7:10 PM
> To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject:	[Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter
> Jam
> 
> Don,
> When would you like to do the Jam? We are available
> most weekends except 
> the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think
> Schaeffers worked well.
> 
> Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to
> hear all about it.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> we will be in 
> >Grenada
> >waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> a toast to you all 
> >amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> >
> >Don Clarke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >From:   Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> >Sent:   Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> >To:     The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject:        Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show
> Jan 17 ( Sat)
> >
> >Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> >
> >Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> someone to take us 
> >in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> within walking distance 
> >of the Convention Center?
> >
> >Mary Lou
> >
> >
> >At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US = 
> > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 36
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:17:50 -0500
> From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
>
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> 
> Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> thinking of us -grin-
> 
> We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the
> logistics. Last year we 
> got there early and got a free parking place on the
> street. I don't think 
> I've ever been in a casino.....
> 
> I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> much care for the 25 but 
> it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> niches, Com-Pac is going to 
> have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> making the 16 and the 19 
> and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> centerboard sloop with a 
> stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> system, stainless arch.
> 
> See you there.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> we are at Sping 
> >Cove, must have been st least sub-conciously,
> thinking of you folks.
> >
> >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> but some ofr us will 
> >drive, so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya
> at A/C!!!.
> >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> >
> >Russ
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> >
> >
> > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> expect someone to take 
> > > us in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these
> places within walking 
> > > distance of
> >the
> > > Convention Center?
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US =
> >Bulldogers,
> > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 37
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:29:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> And/Or Bourbon & 7, Rummy:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > Ben,
> > 
> > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store
> all
> > the ice you need for rum
> > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > Sealed the deal.
> > How's the new bimini working for ya?
> > 
> > Rummy
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> Message: 38
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:31:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Ben
> How did you end up installing the Bimini?  Any pics?
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com> wrote:
> > The bimini's great.  Hard to believe I sailed
> > without it down here.
> > 
> > Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog
> mixer
> > this holliday season.
> > Very good, not that you didn't know that already.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > 
> > 
> > Ben,
> > 
> > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store
> all
> > the ice you need for rum
> > 
> > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > Sealed the deal. How's the
> > new bimini working for ya?
> > 
> > Rummy
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> Message: 39
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:46:08 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred 
> To: "'Jim Connolly'" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>,
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
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> 
> 
> Jim:
> 	Where do you keep your boat during the winter?  
>                                  Ed K  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Connolly [mailto:jbconnolly at comcast.net] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:57 PM
> To: kroposki at innova.net
> Subject: RE: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred 
> 
> I see, now.
> 
> I sail Salem Harbor, MA on the north shore (with
> respect to Boston).
> 
> Or as we say up here "noth shoah"
> 
> BTW, I have had eight in the cockpit.  At 6'1" the
> boom barely hits my head
> standing in the cockpit, so sailing while sitting
> should be safe for all.
> 
> There is no centerboard trunk intruding into the
> cockpit as there is in the
> Mariner.  Hopping over the trunk while tacking was a
> major pain (quite
> literally).
> 
> Jim Connolly 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:40 PM
> To: 'Jim Connolly'
> Subject: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred 
> 
> 
> Jim:
> 	I guess you missed his reply to my question.  He
> said he sails Cape
> Cod.  I thought that you sailed somewhere up there?
>                     Ed K
> "Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My
> reason if mostly to have
> more cockpit room for guests, for them not to have
> to hop over cboard trunk
> ona tack and duck for the boom. Fred"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 40
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:58:43 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <000101c3d781$deda0910$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Mary Lou,
> 	Have you noticed that since the announcement about
> the Seaward 26,
> Stan has not been on the list?  Has he communicated
> to anyone or has he
> simply sailed away?  Maybe nobody has made a
> political statement lately?
>                      Ed K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> 
> Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> thinking of us -grin-
> 
> We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the
> logistics. Last year we 
> got there early and got a free parking place on the
> street. I don't think 
> I've ever been in a casino.....
> 
> I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> much care for the 25 but 
> it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> niches, Com-Pac is going to 
> have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> making the 16 and the 19 
> and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> centerboard sloop with a
> 
> stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> system, stainless arch.
> 
> See you there.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> we are at Sping
> Cove,
> >must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of
> you folks.
> >
> >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> but some ofr us will
> drive,
> >so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
> >See ya at A/C!!!.
> >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> >
> >Russ
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> Sat)
> >
> >
> > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> expect someone to take
> us in
> > > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> within walking distance
> of
> >the
> > > Convention Center?
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> Sat night? (US =
> >Bulldogers,
> > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 41
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:15:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <20040110141509.77398.qmail at web14911.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hey Ed
> If a political statement is needed; I'm willing to
> step up to the plate:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> --- Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net> wrote:
> > Mary Lou,
> > 	Have you noticed that since the announcement
> about
> > the Seaward
> > 26, Stan has not been on the list?  Has he
> > communicated to anyone or has
> > he simply sailed away?  Maybe nobody has made a
> > political statement
> > lately?
> >                      Ed K
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> > thinking of us -grin-
> > 
> > We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out
> the logistics. Last 
> > year we
> > got there early and got a free parking place on
> the
> > street. I don't
> > think 
> > I've ever been in a casino.....
> > 
> > I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> > much care for the 25
> > but
> > it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> > niches, Com-Pac is going
> > to 
> > have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> > making the 16 and the
> > 19 
> > and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> > centerboard sloop with a
> > 
> > stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> > system, stainless arch.
> > 
> > See you there.
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed
> up,
> > we are at Sping
> > Cove,
> > >must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking
> of
> > you folks.
> > >
> > >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> > but some ofr us will
> > drive,
> > >so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
> > >See ya at A/C!!!.
> > >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward
> 26RK?
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17
> (
> > Sat)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > > >
> > > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> > expect someone to take
> > us in
> > > > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > within walking distance
> > of
> > >the
> > > > Convention Center?
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with
> us
> > Sat night? (US =
> > >Bulldogers,
> > > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Russ
> > > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> Message: 42
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:24:58 -0500
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> Subject: Is this true?
> 
> For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> posts to the list, is the
> quote that was sent to me true?
>                                 Ed K
> 
> Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn 
> 
> I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> is a great answer from
> John Glenn. 
> 
> Some people still don't understand why military
> personnel do what they do
> for a living. This exchange Between Senators John
> Glenn and Sen. Howard
> Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty
> impressive and
> impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of
> one man's explanation of
> why men and women in the Armed Services do what they
> do for a living. This
> is a typical, though sad, example of what some who
> have never served think
> of the Military. 
>   
> Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you
> run for Senate when you've
> never held a "real job?" 
>   
> Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United
> States Marine Corps. I
> served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My
> plane was hit by
> antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
> 
> I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my checkbook,
> Howard; it was my Life
> on the line. It was not a nine to five job, where I
> took time off to take
> the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go
> with me ... as I went
> the other day... to a Veterans Hospital and look
> those men - with their
> mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they
> didn't hold a job!
>   
> You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go,
> as I have gone, to the
> widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and
> Roger Chaffee...and you look
> those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS
> didn't hold a job.
> 
> You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
> Arlington National Cemetery,
> where I have more friends buried than I'd like to
> remember, and you watch
> those waving flags. You stand there, and you think
> about this Nation, and
> you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
> 
> I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on
> your knees every day of
> your life thanking God that there were some men -
> SOME MEN - who held REAL
> job. And they required a dedication to a purpose -
> and a love of country and
> a dedication to duty - that was more important than
> life itself. And their
> self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.
> 
> I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?" 
> 
> For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard
> Metzenbaum was an
> attorney representing the Communist Party in the
> USA. Now he is a Senator! 
> 
> If you can read this, thank a teacher.... 
> If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran 
>   
>   
>      
>       
>    
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 43
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:59:00 -0600
> From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> <200401101759.01287.sanderico at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Snopes says TRUE. I say, too bad John didn't get up
> and kick Howard's ass!!!
> 
> He would have remembered that a lot longer than a
> little ass chewing. :-)
> 
> Rik
> 
> 
> On 01/10/2004 05:24 pm, Kroposki wrote:
> > Subject: Is this true?
> >
> > For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> posts to the list, 
> > is the quote that was sent to me true?
> >                                 Ed K
> >
> > Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn
> >
> > I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> is a great answer 
> > from John Glenn.
> >
> > Some people still don't understand why military
> personnel do what they 
> > do for a living. This exchange Between Senators
> John Glenn and Sen. 
> > Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it
> a pretty impressive 
> > and impromptu speech, but it's also a good example
> of one man's 
> > explanation of why men and women in the Armed
> Services do what they do 
> > for a living. This is a typical, though sad,
> example of what some who 
> > have never served think of the Military.
> >
> > Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you
> run for Senate when 
> > you've never held a "real job?"
> >
> > Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United
> States Marine Corps. I 
> > served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My
> plane was hit by 
> > antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
> >
> > I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my
> checkbook, Howard; it was my 
> > Life on the line. It was not a nine to five job,
> where I took time off 
> > to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask
> you to go with me 
> > ... as I went the other day... to a Veterans
> Hospital and look those 
> > men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and
> tell THEM they 
> > didn't hold a job!
> >
> > You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and
> go, as I have gone, to 
> > the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom
> and Roger 
> > Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and
> tell them that their 
> > DADS didn't hold a job.
> >
> > You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
> Arlington National 
> > Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than
> I'd like to remember, 
> > and you watch those waving flags. You stand there,
> and you think about 
> > this Nation, and you tell ME that those people
> didn't have a job?
> >
> > I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on
> your knees every 
> > day of your life thanking God that there were some
> men - SOME MEN - 
> > who held REAL job. And they required a dedication
> to a purpose - and a 
> > love of country and a dedication to duty - that
> was more important 
> > than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what
> made this country 
> > possible.
> >
> > I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?"
> >
> > For those who don't remember - During W.W.II,
> Howard Metzenbaum was an 
> > attorney representing the Communist Party in the
> USA. Now he is a 
> > Senator!
> >
> > If you can read this, thank a teacher....
> > If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 44
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:43:27 -0500 (Eastern
> Standard Time)
> From: "CT" <ctscuba at aquaticworlds.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
> <kroposki at innova.net>,
> 	<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:
> 
>
<40008E1F.000003.35909 at home-laptop.frtprk01.fl.comcast.net>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> Yes, it is true.
> 
> If you wonder about some of the stories on the net
> (and you should), I refer
> you to www.snopes.com 
> 
> All the best,
> CT 
>  
> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: kroposki at innova.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2004 06:25:17 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
>  
> Subject: Is this true?
>  
> For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> posts to the list, is the
> quote that was sent to me true? Ed K
>  
> Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn 
>  
> I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> is a great answer from
> John Glenn. 
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> question
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> 
> Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget
> norhteast. The old Hudson is 
> freezing up quickley this week.  Does anyones older
> boat have the top of the
> 
> roller fr.jib/forstay attached to a halyard?  Same
> question concerning 
> rollermain. It seams my boats sails are fixed at the
> top of the mast but the
> provision 
> is there to hook up halyards so these sails can be
> removed with the mast up.
> If 
> I add a  seperate forstay I can drop the roll.jib
> set up back a bit to a 
> fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck.   
> It doesn't seam like a
> bad 
> idea to me since my sails  might need some work
> after the boat is in the
> water. 
> The notion of removing them while the mast is up  is
> one I like. Anyone see
> a 
> problem?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 45
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:58:34 -0500
> From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> question
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <022701c3d7e6$6ba08e00$6501a8c0 at mjm2>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> sound like are trying to reinvent the CDI fuler, the
> F2 with ballbarring are
> not that expenive, should be alot less hassels in
> the end and know to work.
> 
> MJM
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> question
> 
> 
> > Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget
> norhteast. The old 
> > Hudson is freezing up quickley this week.  Does
> anyones older boat 
> > have the top of the roller fr.jib/forstay attached
> to a halyard?  Same 
> > question concerning rollermain. It seams my boats
> sails are fixed at 
> > the top of the mast but the provision is there to
> hook up halyards so 
> > these sails can be removed with the mast up. If I
> add a  seperate forstay
> I can drop the roll.jib set up back a bit to a
> > fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck. 
>   It doesn't seam like
> a bad
> > idea to me since my sails  might need some work
> after the boat is in 
> > the water. The notion of removing them while the
> mast is up  is one I 
> > like. Anyone see a problem? 
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