[Rhodes22-list] RE: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 383, Issue 1

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Mon Jan 12 20:11:39 EST 2004


It might even be worse that that, I save his post was being help, he was not on the list, and signed him up :-)

MJM

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> >    1. Mississsippi (Kroposki)
> >    2. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> > Kaynor)
> >    3. RE: Mississsippi (Ben Schultz)
> >    4. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Bob
> > Weber)
> >    5. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> > Kaynor)
> >    6. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob
> > Lowe)
> >    7. Re: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Rob
> > Lowe)
> >    8. RE: Winter sailing blues - cure found (Mark
> > Kaynor)
> >    9. Where is Stan (Kroposki)
> >   10. epinions (Info)
> >   11. Fred's epinions (Kroposki)
> >   12. Re: epinions (Mary Lou Troy)
> >   13. RE: epinions (Wally Buck)
> >   14. Cape Cod Fred  (Kroposki)
> >   15. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
> >   16. RE: epinions/opinions (Ben Schultz)
> >   17. Re: epinions (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
> >   18. Re: A description of '94 Bahamas trip.
> > (NAPOLI51950 at aol.com)
> >   19. RE: epinions (Ben Schultz)
> >   20. Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Kroposki)
> >   21. Re: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Steve
> > Alm)
> >   22. RE: Ben's epinions about Mt. Gay Rum (Ben
> > Schultz)
> >   23. RE: R19 vs. R22 (was epinions)  (Jim Connolly)
> >   24. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
> >   25. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> > Miller)
> >   26. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
> >   27. RE: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Clarke, Donald
> > R (Don), NEO)
> >   28. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
> >   29. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> > Miller)
> >   30. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> > Miller)
> >   31. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> > Miller)
> >   32. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell Miller)
> >   33. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Russell
> > Miller)
> >   34. 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Mary Lou Troy)
> >   35. RE: 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter Jam (Clarke,
> > Donald R (Don), NEO)
> >   36. Re: Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Mary Lou Troy)
> >   37. Re: epinions (Steve)
> >   38. RE: epinions (Steve)
> >   39. Cape Cod Fred  (Kroposki)
> >   40. A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Kroposki)
> >   41. Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat) (Steve)
> >   42. FW: Is this true? (Kroposki)
> >   43. Re: FW: Is this true? (Rik Sandberg)
> >   44. Re: FW: Is this true? (CT)
> >   45. Re: general rigging question (Michael Meltzer)
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:52:22 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <001401c3d5f7$08fd1cf0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > 
> > Ben:
> > You might be interested in this guys book:
> > 
> > www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
> > 
> > But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail
> > in these waters. Humpf!
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >                                 Ed K              
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:08:17 -0500
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCKEPMDLAA.mark at kaynor.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Mary Lou,
> > 
> > He told me a story about running aground on the ICW.
> > A big powerboat that
> > was going by so he called it on the VHF and asked
> > the guy to give him some
> > big wake. The guy obliged and they were able to back
> > off on the wave crests.
> > Imagine that - useful wake <g>.
> > 
> > The bottom of the keel looks like that because, in
> > her current slip, she's
> > in the mud at low tide. Surveyor said no problem,
> > though, everything's solid
> > and the anti-fouling paint is fine under the
> > discoloration, though.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> > Of Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:20 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > Mark,
> > Sounds like the voice of experience. Actually
> > looking at the bottom of the
> > keel......
> > 
> > We haven't tried looking for high speed access on
> > the water - heck we are
> > finally going to broadband here at home.
> > 
> > If you keep the boat in MD they'll want their piece
> > of your pie. 5% excise
> > unless you've already paid that amount or more to
> > another state. If that's
> > not a problem, you could get to Deale up 301 and
> > stay outside of the
> > Beltway, Solomons too.
> > 
> > Keep us informed.
> > 
> > ML
> > 
> > At 10:08 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Mary Lou,
> > >
> > >Yeah - that 15 hp ought to give some decent pull on
> > a halyard <g>. And, 
> > >according to the PO, it will handle carrying the
> > kedging hook no
> > problem....
> > >
> > >Ever tried to find a slip at a marina w/ high speed
> > access? Neither had 
> > >we. It's not as easy as we thought. The places we
> > like also happen to 
> > >be, by their very nature, a bit away from
> > civilization. No reason we 
> > >can't have both, though - we just need to look hard
> > enough and, maybe, 
> > >convince
> > someone
> > >we know what were doing and can set them up w/
> > Wi-Fi for the marina 
> > ><g>.
> > >
> > >Haven't looked at Deale yet, but one of our
> > requirements is not to have 
> > >to deal with the DC / beltway traffic.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:57 PM
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > >
> > >
> > >You'll be glad for the dinghy with the 5'8' draft.
> > You could do Swan 
> > >Creek but you'll need to be careful and watch the
> > tides.
> > >
> > >I would think cable might be easier to find than
> > DSL. You might have to 
> > >look closer to the cities - Norfolk? or further
> > North - Annapolis? 
> > >Baltimore? Deale's not a big city but might have
> > access.
> > >
> > >What a beautiful boat - did I say congratulations?
> > >
> > >ML
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:13 PM 1/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Don,
> > > >
> > > >No marina yet - we're trying to find a slip w/
> > high-speed Internet 
> > > >access on/near the Rappahannock so we can "work
> > from home" until 
> > > >we're ready to take off. Unfortunately, given the
> > work we do, 
> > > >satellite and cellular wireless are pretty much
> > out, due to low 
> > > >upload speed. Not as easy to
> > find
> > > >DSL or cable as we originally thought.
> > > >
> > > >We found one so far, but we didn't like the
> > location/marina as much 
> > > >as
> > some
> > > >others we've visited - unfortunately, our
> > favorite one has no 
> > > >high-speed access available, and our second pick
> > had so much damage 
> > > >from Isabel, we won't know if we'll have a slip
> > until March or April. 
> > > >Guess we'll know something before too long...
> > > >
> > > >Oh yeah - rides always available for Rhodies when
> > we're aboard - 
> > > >maybe
> > >we'll
> > > >be able to make the Swan Creek get together again
> > next Memorial Day - 
> > > >if
> > >so,
> > > >we'll be glad to host the raft up <g>.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > Behalf Of Clarke, 
> > > >Donald R (Don), NEO
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:59 PM
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues
> > - cure found
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Mark,
> > > >
> > > >This is very cool, I am so  jealous, where are
> > you going keep it?
> > > >
> > > >Hope you are giving rides!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > >From:   Mark Kaynor [mailto:mark at kaynor.org]
> > > >Sent:   Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:02 PM
> > > >To:     rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >Cc:     Julie Kaynor
> > > >Subject:        [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing
> > blues - cure found
> > > >
> > > >Folks,
> > > >
> > > >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's
> > been on the hard has 
> > > >been tough for us, Christmas parade float
> > notwithstanding. The 
> > > >weather doesn't help much, either - Sunday we
> > were sitting on the 
> > > >patio in our shirt
> > >sleeves
> > > >having a beer with some friends, and this morning
> > we woke up to a
> > blustery
> > >8
> > > >degrees F. Sheesh.
> > > >
> > > >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit
> > weak-minded), we decided to do 
> > > >something about it.
> > > >
> > > >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> > signed the papers to 
> > > >buy a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on
> > deck, 3 1/2 feet 
> > > >wider, and
> > >about
> > > >10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be big
> > enough to distract us 
> > > >from
> > >these
> > > >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> > winter (or the one 
> > > >after
> > > >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> > go through this sort of
> > > >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> > again, anyway <g>.
> > > >
> > > >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> > the SSCA gam in
> > >Melbourne,
> > > >FL last November, but we didn't want to say
> > anything until it was a 
> > > >done deal - you know how these things sometimes
> > go. We're bringing 
> > > >her up to
> > the
> > > >Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually
> > spend more and more time
> > >aboard
> > > >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> > living aboard and
> > heading
> > > >south. Time'll tell...
> > > >
> > > >Here's a link to some pictures -
> > http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> > > >
> > > >Mark Kaynor
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:14:55 -0600 
> > From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
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> <ABFF26BC00D6EC4898BD9D5C72B77237078D8EE4 at appro02.approsystems.c
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> > 
> > Thanks Ed.  I saw his post on the Gulf Coast sailnet
> > list too.  I'm
> > definitely interested.  The Mississippi coast has
> > some great sailing,
> > although it takes me a couple of days to get out
> > there.  One of these days,
> > I'll have to get a trailer.  I do sometimes go
> > canoe/kayak out there.  It's
> > really nice, but I don't know the good places to go.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:52 AM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mississsippi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ben:
> > You might be interested in this guys book:
> > 
> > www.scottbwilliams.com/ExploringcoastalMS.html
> > 
> > But, I am sure with Mark's new draft he can not sail
> > in these waters. Humpf!
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >                                 Ed K              
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:16:32 -0600
> > From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> > Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> > exact boat that exist only 
> > in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> > ornate wood and serious 
> > not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious
> > blue water boat.  Please 
> > keep the list updated on your preparation and plans.
> >  Did you have much 
> > trouble convincing your wife about changing
> > lifestyles?  Bob Weber
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been
> > on the hard has been 
> > >tough for us, Christmas parade float
> > notwithstanding. The weather 
> > >doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting
> > on the patio in our 
> > >shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and
> > this morning we woke 
> > >up to a blustery 8
> > >degrees F. Sheesh.
> > >
> > >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded),
> > we decided to do 
> > >something about it.
> > >
> > >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> > signed the papers to buy 
> > >a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck,
> > 3 1/2 feet wider, 
> > >and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be
> > big enough to 
> > >distract us from these
> > >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> > winter (or the one after
> > >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> > go through this sort of
> > >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> > again, anyway <g>.
> > >
> > >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> > the SSCA gam in
> > >Melbourne,
> > >FL last November, but we didn't want to say
> > anything until it was a done
> > >deal - you know how these things sometimes go.
> > We're bringing her up to the
> > >Chesapeake next spring and plan to gradually spend
> > more and more time 
> > >aboard
> > >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> > living aboard and heading
> > >south. Time'll tell...
> > >
> > >Here's a link to some pictures -
> > http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> > >
> > >Mark Kaynor
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
> > Expand your wine savvy - and get some great new
> > recipes - at MSN Wine. 
> > http://wine.msn.com
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:38:24 -0500
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCAEPODLAA.mark at kaynor.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Bob,
> > 
> > I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive - two
> > of the best boats around
> > and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> > possible w/ me on both. And we
> > work together, too - go figure <g>.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> > Of Bob Weber
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:17 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> > exact boat that exist only
> > in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> > ornate wood and serious
> > not so ornate fittings that show this is a serious
> > blue water boat.  Please
> > keep the list updated on your preparation and plans.
> >  Did you have much
> > trouble convincing your wife about changing
> > lifestyles?  Bob Weber
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >CC: Julie Kaynor <julie at kaynor.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:02:22 -0500
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >All this talk of winter sailing while Raven's been
> > on the hard has been 
> > >tough for us, Christmas parade float
> > notwithstanding. The weather 
> > >doesn't help much, either - Sunday we were sitting
> > on the patio in our 
> > >shirt sleeves having a beer with some friends, and
> > this morning we woke 
> > >up to a blustery 8
> > >degrees F. Sheesh.
> > >
> > >Being weak willed (and perhaps a bit weak-minded),
> > we decided to do 
> > >something about it.
> > >
> > >Julie and I went to the bank this morning and
> > signed the papers to buy 
> > >a 1986 Tayana 37. At about 15 feet longer on deck,
> > 3 1/2 feet wider, 
> > >and about 10 tons heavier, we're hoping she'll be
> > big enough to 
> > >distract us from these
> > >wintertime non-sailing blues. Hopefully by next
> > winter (or the one after
> > >that) we'll be in warmer climes and won't have to
> > go through this sort of
> > >withdrawal again - I doubt we could afford it
> > again, anyway <g>.
> > >
> > >Actually, it's been in the works since we went to
> > the SSCA gam in 
> > >Melbourne, FL last November, but we didn't want to
> > say anything until 
> > >it was a done deal - you know how these things
> > sometimes go. We're 
> > >bringing her up to the Chesapeake next spring and
> > plan to gradually 
> > >spend more and more time aboard
> > >over the next year with an eye toward eventually
> > living aboard and heading
> > >south. Time'll tell...
> > >
> > >Here's a link to some pictures -
> > http://www.kaynor.org/rachel.
> > >
> > >Mark Kaynor
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
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> > recipes - at MSN Wine.
> > http://wine.msn.com
> > 
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> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:40:06 -0500
> > From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <011e01c3d5fd$b0ab89e0$58ac52c6 at ehss.vt.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Bob,
> > Knowing Julie as I do, I expect it was the other way
> > around! - Rob
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:16 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > > Mark, A million congratulations.  You bought the
> > exact boat that exist
> > only
> > > in my mind as of now.  A double ender with all the
> > ornate wood and 
> > > serious not so ornate fittings that show this is a
> > serious blue water 
> > > boat.
> > Please
> > > keep the list updated on your preparation and
> > plans.  Did you have 
> > > much trouble convincing your wife about changing
> > lifestyles?  Bob 
> > > Weber
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:42:40 -0500
> > From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <014801c3d606$6e30ddf0$58ac52c6 at ehss.vt.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Mark,
> > I'd have to say you're correct.  Especially after
> > hearing your stories about
> > "the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive -
> > two of the best boats
> > around
> > > and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> > possible w/ me on both. 
> > > And
> > we
> > > work together, too - go figure <g>.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:51:34 -0500
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <MGEBKHACDAGAFCOJLMOCGEABDMAA.mark at kaynor.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > Haha. Yes, that would be another set of stories (and
> > another life),
> > completely <g>.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> > Of Rob Lowe
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:43 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > Mark,
> > I'd have to say you're correct.  Especially after
> > hearing your stories about
> > "the ex-wife from hell"! - rob
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Winter sailing blues -
> > cure found
> > 
> > 
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I've got to be one of the luckiest guys alive -
> > two of the best boats
> > around
> > > and a wife who wants to spend as much time as
> > possible w/ me on both. 
> > > And
> > we
> > > work together, too - go figure <g>.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:24:31 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Where is Stan
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000601c3d64f$5658b380$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Michael,
> > Stan has been quite these days.  Is he out of town?
> >  Maybe at:
> > 
> > http://www.houstonboatshows.com/
> > 
> > The weather might be warmer there.
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/)
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >                                         Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> > From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <NCBBLHPJNOBOBPNEHPDGOEKAGNAA.info at roadworksauto.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> > 
> > I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> > I know it a s totally
> > different type of boat, as far as performance goes.
> > My question to anyone
> > who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22,
> > Catalina, Com-pac. I do
> > like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
> > performance, pointing
> > and folding up problems. What are god conditions
> > used R22's going for these
> > days. Thanks, Fred.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:02:33 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fred's epinions
> > To: <info at roadworksauto.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000201c3d6b0$dc3c3fb0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Fred:
> > There are other 'Fred's" on the list.  Most on this
> > list are owners
> > of R22's, but there are several owners of 19's and
> > other Rhodes designs.  I
> > expect others will reply to your inquiry over the
> > next days and weeks.
> > Since we moved onto this list, the site keeper,
> > Michael Meltzer, has
> > kept an archive of old emails.  So one thing for you
> > to do is peruse the old
> > emails.  Unfortunately, people change subjects
> > without changing the subject
> > line very often.  So, don't rely on the subject
> > line.
> > Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans
> > which maintains a
> > history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
> > 
> > Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have
> > written over the years.
> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
> > 
> > 
> > You might help us better respond to your questions
> > by telling us where you
> > are and where you plan to sail.  There are folks who
> > monitor this list from
> > Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
> >                                 Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:12 -0500
> > From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <5.1.0.14.0.20040109081426.00b90260 at mail1.netreach.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> > format=flowed
> > 
> > Fred,
> > I've only sailed a Rhodes 19 once but it was a sweet
> > boat. If you go with a 
> > Rhodes 22 the standard 175 furling genoa and sail
> > with it rolled up a lot 
> > and with the in-mast main, the upwind performance
> > will be good but not as 
> > good as your R19.
> > 
> > Not sure what you mean by "folding up" problems. If
> > you mean putting it 
> > away for trailoring, it will take more time with
> > than an R19 but people who 
> > do it frequently have it down to about 40 minutes.
> > If you get the mast 
> > raising system it is doable with one person even
> > with the heavy in-mast 
> > furling main and furling jib (which get raised and
> > lowered all together).
> > 
> > My understanding is that O'Day 22s are heavy and
> > slow. Catalina 22s provide 
> > good performance but not the cruising luxuries of a
> > Rhodes 22 and if you 
> > sail in salt water, the swing keel becomes a
> > maintenance issue. On the R22, 
> > the centerboard is fiberglass and the pennant is
> > line - nothing to corrode. 
> > Com-Pac 23s are nice boats but do not give as good
> > upwind performance, 
> > especially in light air. My sense is that  of the 4
> > boats you mentioned the 
> > R22 can be sailed well in a wider variety of
> > conditions and it will take 
> > you there in style. If you want to cruise, spending
> > nights on the boat, the 
> > R22 is better equipped and more comfortable.
> > 
> > If you want a good condition R22, the best way to
> > get one is to buy 
> > recycled from General Boats as they will have
> > thoroughly inspected the boat 
> > and you can have it outfitted as you wish. You pay a
> > premium for this but 
> > we found that it was worth it. You'll have to ask
> > them what they are going 
> > for these days. There are never many used Rhodes 22s
> > around at any one time 
> > as there are not all that many out there to begin
> > with. General Boats buys 
> > many of them back.
> > 
> > Where are you located?
> > 
> > Mary Lou (and Fred)
> > 1991 R22  Fretless
> > Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD
> > 
> > 
> > At 11:49 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> > I know it a s 
> > >totally different type of boat, as far as
> > performance goes. My question 
> > >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> > Oday 22, Catalina, 
> > >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> > concerned with upwind 
> > >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> > are god conditions 
> > >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:35:17 -0500
> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <Sea1-F119cevFiaaMjg000195f3 at hotmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> > 
> > Fred,
> > 
> > The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you
> > already know a bit different
> > 
> > than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons
> > for changing but I am 
> > going to guess you need more room for over nighting.
> > That being said I do 
> > race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the
> > other pocket cruisers that
> > 
> > race.
> > 
> > I also considered some of the boats you mentioned
> > before purchasing the 
> > Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were
> > several things I didn't 
> > like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were
> > small cockpit and lack 
> > of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23
> >  every now and then. It
> > 
> > is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has
> > a shoal draft like the 
> > R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are
> > well made though and I like
> > 
> > the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
> > 
> > For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I
> > am not sure what is 
> > different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222
> > had a shoal draft with CB 
> > but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I
> > really didn't think much 
> > of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not
> > as nice as the Rhodes. 
> > Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older
> > and of course O'Day is not
> > 
> > around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
> > 
> > The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22
> > and has a pop-top but I 
> > did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are
> > cheaper though and plenty 
> > of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin
> > lay out better in the 
> > Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and
> > stability made the Rhodes 
> > look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am
> > biased but I think the 
> > Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through
> > the chop like a much 
> > bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same
> > feel.
> > 
> > In regards to pointing ability; I think it really
> > depends on sail plan. If 
> > you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet
> > inside the outer shroud
> > 
> > with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the
> > shroud while providing 
> > great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well
> > on the upwind legs. If 
> > you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will
> > sacrifice pointing 
> > ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs
> > great but if you have crew 
> > you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny,
> > you would be flying your 
> > spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it
> > needs some TLC.
> > 
> > General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty.
> > Many on this list have 
> > purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my
> > 84 2 years ago rom a 
> > private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I
> > searched for about 6 months 
> > on the net and eventually found a boat that suited
> > my needs and budget.
> > 
> > It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I
> > was out solo last Sunday
> > 
> > in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had
> > the main and genny 
> > furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move
> > upwind and tack through
> > 
> > the white caps without any problems. I never dipped
> > the rail.
> > 
> > If you have any questions ask away.
> > 
> > Wally,  Knoxille TN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> > >Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> > >
> > >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> > I know it a s 
> > >totally different type of boat, as far as
> > performance goes. My question 
> > >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> > Oday 22, Catalina, 
> > >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> > concerned with upwind 
> > >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> > are god conditions 
> > >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:25:20 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred 
> > To: <info at roadworksauto.com>
> > Cc: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <000701c3d6e6$56dad530$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Fred:
> > 
> >       Sounds like you would use the boat like I do. 
> > It usually just me and
> > my wife sailing.  We bring some drinks and
> > sandwiches.  I have had 5 in the
> > boat, but that is the exception.
> > 
> >       I sail in South Carolina on Rummy's Lake aka
> > Lake Hartwell.  See:
> > 
> > http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/
> > 
> > And I keep my boat at Big Water Marina on the South
> > End of the Lake.
> > See:
> > 
> > http://familyoutdoors.com/pages/bigwater.htm
> > 
> >       The cockpit is reason enough to get the Rhodes
> > 22.  The seats are long
> > enough to stretch out and go to sleep (zzzzzz).  Or
> > to sit 3 on the upwind
> > side.  If you get a furling foresail and the IMF, it
> > has to one of the
> > easiest boats to sail.  To me those two features
> > allow for fast sail use and
> > adjustment.  But if you want to race, then
> > conventional sails are probably
> > more effective.
> > 
> >       This list is not controlled by General Boats
> > nor any specific company.
> > Many of the comments don't relate to sailing.  Do
> > not be fooled, the posts
> > are coming from folks who own and sail the R22.  So
> > ask any question.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > 
> > 
> >                Ed K
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Info [mailto:info at roadworksauto.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:04 AM
> > To: kroposki at innova.net
> > Subject: RE: Fred's epinions
> > Importance: High
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My
> > reason if mostly to have more
> > 
> > cockpit room for guests, for them not to have to hop
> > over cboard trunk ona
> > 
> > tack and duck for the boom.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Fred
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net]
> > 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:03 AM
> > 
> > To: info at roadworksauto.com; 'The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list'
> > 
> > Subject: Fred's epinions
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Fred:
> > 
> >       There are other 'Fred's" on the list.  Most on
> > this list are
> > 
> > owners of R22's, but there are several owners of
> > 19's and other Rhodes
> > 
> > designs.  I expect others will reply to your inquiry
> > over the next days
> > 
> > and weeks.
> > 
> >       Since we moved onto this list, the site
> > keeper, Michael Meltzer,
> > 
> > has kept an archive of old emails.  So one thing for
> > you to do is peruse
> > 
> > the old emails.  Unfortunately, people change
> > subjects without changing
> > 
> > the subject line very often.  So, don't rely on the
> > subject line.
> > 
> >       Also, there is a related WEB site by Tom Evans
> > which maintains a
> > 
> > history of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Keep in mind Tom just copied what people have
> > written over the years.
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/r22_c22.html
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > You might help us better respond to your questions
> > by telling us where
> > 
> > you are and where you plan to sail.  There are folks
> > who monitor this
> > 
> > list from Oregon to Florida to Texas to Maine.....
> > 
> >                                 Ed K
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:48:53 -0600 
> > From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <ABFF26BC00D6EC4898BD9D5C72B77237078D90B9 at appro02.approsystems.c
> > om>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > 
> > Fred,
> > 
> > My family had a Catalina 22 when we were growing up,
> > and I sail a Rhodes
> > now.  I was in the market for a Catalina when I
> > stumbled across the first
> > Rhodes that I had seen.  From the first glance, I
> > liked the Rhodes better.
> > The biggest draws to me were:
> > 
> > 1.  The cockpit is noticably bigger.  We like to
> > take other people out
> > sailing, and we are very comfortable with 6 adults
> > on board.  I'm not sure
> > that would be the case with some of the others.
> > 
> > 2.  Innermast furling.  I intended from the start to
> > sail single-handed a
> > lot.  (Ironically, this is a feature that I
> > ultimately decided against, but
> > it sure would be nice to have when those summer
> > squalls spring up suddenly.
> > Even without the IMF, the Rhodes is easy to
> > single-hand.  My wife
> > occasionally takes it out with no crew other than
> > non-sailing friends, and
> > nothing is too heavy or difficult for them to do.)
> > 
> > 3.  The Rhodes is just plain good-looking.  Velvet
> > Elvis is the nicest
> > looking boat in our marina, even though it is the
> > smallest, or very close to
> > being the smallest.
> > 
> > 4.  As I started to research the boat a little, I
> > realized how beneficial
> > the centerboard design would be.  As it turns out,
> > my favorite gunkhole is
> > always mine and mine alone, since smaller boats
> > aren't comfortable for an
> > overnight on the hook, and larger boats are afraid
> > to traverse the sand bar
> > that guards the entrance.
> > 
> > 
> > And although I didn't know this at the time, the
> > customer service you get
> > from General Boats couldn't possibly be matched by
> > what you would get from a
> > bigger company.  Where else can you get on the phone
> > with the guys who have
> > been building the boat for decades and have them
> > talk you through a problem?
> > I've seen Stan's home phone number posted for us on
> > this list.  (I know that
> > I wouldn't do the same for my customers :-))
> > 
> > 
> > Those were the big things for me.  Others are really
> > moved by the
> > floatation, mast raising system, motor mount,
> > captains chairs, etc.  All of
> > that is great too, but I'll leave it for those who
> > feel passionate to
> > elaborate.
> > 
> > By the way, where are you located?  Maybe one of us
> > can take you sailing
> > soon!
> > 
> > Ben 
> > R22 Velvet Elvis
> > Baton Rouge
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wally Buck [mailto:tnrhodey at hotmail.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:35 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > 
> > 
> > Fred,
> > 
> > The Rhodes 19 is a great little boat and as you
> > already know a bit different
> > 
> > than the Rhodes 22. I am not sure of your reasons
> > for changing but I am 
> > going to guess you need more room for over nighting.
> > That being said I do 
> > race my R22 for fun and I can keep up or pass the
> > other pocket cruisers that
> > 
> > race.
> > 
> > I also considered some of the boats you mentioned
> > before purchasing the 
> > Rhodes. Compac makes a great boat but there were
> > several things I didn't 
> > like about the Compac 23. The biggest concerns were
> > small cockpit and lack 
> > of both a pop-top and CB. I race against a Compac 23
> >  every now and then. It
> > 
> > is the slowest boat in our small race fleet. It has
> > a shoal draft like the 
> > R22 but no CB so it doesn't point well. They are
> > well made though and I like
> > 
> > the lines. Compac still in business is a plus.
> > 
> > For a year or so an O'Day 222 slipped next to me. I
> > am not sure what is 
> > different about the O'Day 22 and the 222. The 222
> > had a shoal draft with CB 
> > but no pop-top. I sailed past this boat easily. I
> > really didn't think much 
> > of the looks of the boat. The cabin layout was not
> > as nice as the Rhodes. 
> > Quality seems to vary, all of the boats are older
> > and of course O'Day is not
> > 
> > around. On the plus side they are cheaper.
> > 
> > The Catalina 22 performs about the same as the R22
> > and has a pop-top but I 
> > did not want a swing keel or wing keel. They are
> > cheaper though and plenty 
> > of them around. But I liked the cockpit and cabin
> > lay out better in the 
> > Rhodes. The positive floatation, strong rig, and
> > stability made the Rhodes 
> > look even better. I have sailed a Catalina 22; I am
> > biased but I think the 
> > Rhodes is a better balanced boat and plows through
> > the chop like a much 
> > bigger boat. The Catalina did not provide the same
> > feel.
> > 
> > In regards to pointing ability; I think it really
> > depends on sail plan. If 
> > you have a genny larger than a 125 you can not sheet
> > inside the outer shroud
> > 
> > with out furling. My 125 can be routed inside the
> > shroud while providing 
> > great sail shape. My boat points fine and I do well
> > on the upwind legs. If 
> > you go with the 170 Genny as your only sail you will
> > sacrifice pointing 
> > ability. Down wind and reaching the 170 performs
> > great but if you have crew 
> > you wouldn't be sailing down wind with your genny,
> > you would be flying your 
> > spinnaker. I wish my 155 was still usable but it
> > needs some TLC.
> > 
> > General Boats sell used Rhodes 22 with a warranty.
> > Many on this list have 
> > purchased used boats direct from GB. I purchased my
> > 84 2 years ago rom a 
> > private owner 810 miles away in Madiison WI. I
> > searched for about 6 months 
> > on the net and eventually found a boat that suited
> > my needs and budget.
> > 
> > It is a solid little boat and will handle a blow. I
> > was out solo last Sunday
> > 
> > in a steady 20 Knot wind with gusts up to 35. I had
> > the main and genny 
> > furled and the boat was balanced. I was able to move
> > upwind and tack through
> > 
> > the white caps without any problems. I never dipped
> > the rail.
> > 
> > If you have any questions ask away.
> > 
> > Wally,  Knoxille TN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Info" <info at roadworksauto.com>
> > >Reply-To: info at roadworksauto.com,The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list 
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:49:52 -0500
> > >
> > >I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> > I know it a s
> > >totally different type of boat, as far as
> > performance goes. My question 
> > >to anyone who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an
> > Oday 22, Catalina, 
> > >Com-pac. I do like the shallow draft, but am
> > concerned with upwind 
> > >performance, pointing and folding up problems. What
> > are god conditions 
> > >used R22's going for these days. Thanks, Fred.
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 16
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:49:58 -0600 
> > From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions/opinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > Yikes, I can't believe I purpetuated that subject
> > line!
> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:07:34 EST
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Message-ID: <13.26db604e.2d306406 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Ben,
> > 
> > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> > the ice you need for rum
> > 
> > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > Sealed the deal. How's the
> > new bimini working for ya?
> > 
> > Rummy
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:27:59 -0500
> > From: NAPOLI51950 at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A description of '94
> > Bahamas trip.
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org (The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list)
> > Message-ID: <4F6F83E7.4B2E907C.37494B9B at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > Thanks, good solutins.  
> > Chris
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:32:04 -0600 
> > From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <ABFF26BC00D6EC4898BD9D5C72B77237078D9110 at appro02.approsystems.c
> > om>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > 
> > The bimini's great.  Hard to believe I sailed
> > without it down here.
> > 
> > Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog mixer
> > this holliday season.
> > Very good, not that you didn't know that already.  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > 
> > 
> > Ben,
> > 
> > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store all
> > the ice you need for rum
> > 
> > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > Sealed the deal. How's the
> > new bimini working for ya?
> > 
> > Rummy
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:38:39 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt.
> > Gay Rum
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000801c3d6f8$f4d21cf0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > 
> > Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> > line???? I am only mentioning
> > it because I got this email saying ooops!
> >                                     Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:56:48 -0600
> > From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about
> > Mt. Gay Rum
> > To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <BC247FC0.4A4D%salm at mn.rr.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Ben,
> > 
> > If you're mixing it with eggnog, you might as well
> > just use Bacardi.  In my
> > humble epinion, the only acceptable thing to add to
> > Mt. Gay is a little ice.
> > I know Rummy mixes his with Coke, which is a crime
> > in Minnesota.  One of
> > these days he too will see the light.  8-)
> > 
> > Slim
> > 
> > On 1/9/04 3:38 PM, "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> > line???? I am only 
> > > mentioning it because I got this email saying
> > ooops!
> > >                                   Ed K
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:59:03 -0600 
> > From: Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about
> > Mt. Gay Rum
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <ABFF26BC00D6EC4898BD9D5C72B77237078D9129 at appro02.approsystems.c
> > om>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > 
> > The misspelling is growing on me now.  I think I
> > might start spelling it
> > like that all the time. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:39 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ben's epinions about Mt.
> > Gay Rum
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ben are you ever going to change the subject
> > line???? I am only mentioning
> > it because I got this email saying ooops!
> >                                     Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
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> > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:04:50 -0500
> > From: "Jim Connolly" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] R19 vs. R22 (was
> > epinions) 
> > To: <info at roadworksauto.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <20040109230410.A4F637C001 at web4.thecenturiongroup.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> >  Fred,
> > 
> > I owned an O'Day Mariner for three years prior to
> > buying my '85 recycled
> > Rhodes 22 from GB.  The Mariner has the same hull
> > and similar rig to an R19.
> > Mine was a centerboard model.  IMO, the
> > keel/centerboard on the R22 is
> > greatly superior to the centerboard on the Mariner
> > 
> > I started looking to replace the Mariner when we
> > were expecting our first
> > child.  We wanted something larger, more comfortable
> > and easier to
> > single-hand.  The R22 with IMF fit the bill best. 
> > As previously described,
> > the cockpit is huge, the cabin is large enough, very
> > comfy, and very well
> > laid-out.  I was shocked to see how much larger it
> > looked, as I never really
> > did a side-by-side comparison.
> > 
> > I have not actually raced the R22.  I have, however
> > 'outrun' Catalina 22s
> > and O'Day 22s.  I have outrun some Catalina 25s too.
> >  I'm pretty sure at
> > least some of them were trying to catch up ;-)  Of
> > course, my equipment &
> > sails are all brand new.  Still, I have no
> > complaints about performance.
> > Others on the list do race and seem to do well.
> > 
> > I am happy with my choice.  Pretty much everybody
> > here is, but for different
> > reasons.  Your reasons for considering the boat are
> > likely different from
> > mine.  A bit more about where you sail and why you
> > are considering a change
> > might be helpful in getting more specific answers.
> > 
> > Fair Winds
> > 
> > Jim Connolly
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Info
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:50 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > I sail a Rhodes 19, and am considering a Rhodes 22.
> > I know it a s totally
> > different type of boat, as far as performance goes.
> > My question to anyone
> > who would comment, is: Why a R22 over an Oday 22,
> > Catalina, Com-pac. I do
> > like the shallow draft, but am concerned with upwind
> > performance, pointing
> > and folding up problems. What are god conditions
> > used R22's going for these
> > days. Thanks, Fred.
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:15:13 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <002b01c3d706$6fa53720$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US = Bulldogers,
> > MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > 
> > 
> > Russ
> > s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:16:40 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <003701c3d706$a388c110$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Asalo Palmer, Pa, new addres from NJ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:15 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > > So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US =
> > Bulldogers,
> > > MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > > Russ
> > > s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 26
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:21:15 -0500
> > From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <5.1.0.14.0.20040109181821.00b90390 at mail1.netreach.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> > format=flowed
> > 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > 
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us in 
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> > walking distance of the 
> > Convention Center?
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US = 
> > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> > who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 27
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:32:46 -0600
> > From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> > <drclarke at att.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <2F5759E03C9FB849BCE169072ACF8F8F077406C4 at OCCLUST01EVS1.ugd.att.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in Grenada
> > waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all
> > amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > 
> > Don Clarke
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > 
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us in 
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> > walking distance of the 
> > Convention Center?
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US = 
> > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> > who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 28
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:47:50 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000d01c3d70a$ff1a3be0$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > Russ,
> > Which boat is Elton bringing?  
> >                                    Ed K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 29
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:56:21 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <004501c3d70c$2ed92cf0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> > we are at Sping Cove,
> > must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of
> > you folks.
> > 
> > Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance but
> > some ofr us will drive,
> > so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya at
> > A/C!!!. PS Elton will also
> > be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> > 
> > Russ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us 
> > > in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > within walking 
> > > distance of
> > the
> > > Convention Center?
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US =
> > Bulldogers,
> > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 30
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:58:18 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <004d01c3d70c$748357d0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Granada?? Waiting for the insavasion??  For shame!!
> > A/C is the place to be!
> > Warm climsate?, at sacriligios!!!!
> > 
> > Russ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> > <drclarke at att.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in Grenada
> > waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all
> > amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > 
> > Don Clarke
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > 
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us in
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> > walking distance of the
> > Convention Center?
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US =
> > Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 31
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:04 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <005101c3d70c$8f8da530$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > PS.  Are we going to do at winter thing likr lastr
> > Year??
> > 
> > Russ
> > s/v Bulldog
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> > <drclarke at att.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in Grenada
> > waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all
> > amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > 
> > Don Clarke
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > 
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us in
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> > walking distance of the
> > Convention Center?
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US =
> > Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
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> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 32
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:59:39 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > To: <kroposki at innova.net>, "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <005701c3d70c$a49c9350$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Both
> > 
> > Russ
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:47 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > > Russ,
> > > Which boat is Elton bringing?  
> > >                                    Ed K
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 33
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:01:03 -0500
> > From: "Russell Miller" <re.miller at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <006501c3d70c$d6c4ffc0$837a4e41 at russ8766c>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Just saw my postings, beginning to look like an
> > Meltzer clone, ????
> > 
> > Russ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> > <drclarke at att.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in Grenada
> > waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all
> > amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > 
> > Don Clarke
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > 
> > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us in
> > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places within
> > walking distance of the
> > Convention Center?
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us Sat
> > night? (US =
> > Bulldogers,
> > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > >
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock Hall,
> > MD
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 34
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:09:55 -0500
> > From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter
> > Jam
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <5.1.0.14.0.20040109190721.01a4c620 at mail1.netreach.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> > format=flowed
> > 
> > Don,
> > When would you like to do the Jam? We are available
> > most weekends except 
> > the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think
> > Schaeffers worked well.
> > 
> > Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to
> > hear all about it.
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in 
> > >Grenada
> > >waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all 
> > >amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > >
> > >Don Clarke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >From:   Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> > >Sent:   Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > >To:     The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Subject:        Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show
> > Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > >
> > >Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > >Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us 
> > >in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > within walking distance 
> > >of the Convention Center?
> > >
> > >Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > >At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US = 
> > > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> > who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 35
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:17:35 -0600
> > From: "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> > <drclarke at att.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes
> > Winter Jam
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <2F5759E03C9FB849BCE169072ACF8F8F077406DD at OCCLUST01EVS1.ugd.att.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Mary Lou,
> > 
> > Haven't given much thought to a date, still focused
> > on warmer weather. With
> > your closed dates in mind I will take a shot.
> > 
> > Russ......you are not focused ....warm, cold, warm,
> > cold, warm, warm, warm,
> > ................ Warm wins.
> > 
> > 
> > Don
> > 
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:10 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2nd Annual Rhodes Winter
> > Jam
> > 
> > Don,
> > When would you like to do the Jam? We are available
> > most weekends except 
> > the weekends of Feb. 21 and Feb 28. I think
> > Schaeffers worked well.
> > 
> > Have a great time on your windjammer - we expect to
> > hear all about it.
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > At 05:32 PM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >Normally  Jeanne and I would be there but, instead
> > we will be in 
> > >Grenada
> > >waiting to catch our windjammer ride. We will drink
> > a toast to you all 
> > >amount the slot machines. SEE YOU at the second
> > annual winter Rhodes Jam.
> > >
> > >Don Clarke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >From:   Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
> > >Sent:   Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > >To:     The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Subject:        Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show
> > Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > >
> > >Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > >
> > >Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will expect
> > someone to take us 
> > >in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > within walking distance 
> > >of the Convention Center?
> > >
> > >Mary Lou
> > >
> > >
> > >At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US = 
> > > >Bulldogers, MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) &
> > who????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 36
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:17:50 -0500
> > From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <5.1.0.14.0.20040109191028.01a3cec8 at mail1.netreach.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
> > format=flowed
> > 
> > Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> > thinking of us -grin-
> > 
> > We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the
> > logistics. Last year we 
> > got there early and got a free parking place on the
> > street. I don't think 
> > I've ever been in a casino.....
> > 
> > I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> > much care for the 25 but 
> > it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> > niches, Com-Pac is going to 
> > have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> > making the 16 and the 19 
> > and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> > centerboard sloop with a 
> > stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> > system, stainless arch.
> > 
> > See you there.
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> > we are at Sping 
> > >Cove, must have been st least sub-conciously,
> > thinking of you folks.
> > >
> > >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> > but some ofr us will 
> > >drive, so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!! See ya
> > at A/C!!!.
> > >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > > >
> > > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> > expect someone to take 
> > > > us in hand and lead us to dinner. Are these
> > places within walking 
> > > > distance of
> > >the
> > > > Convention Center?
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US =
> > >Bulldogers,
> > > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Russ
> > > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 37
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:29:50 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <20040110132950.63711.qmail at web14903.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > And/Or Bourbon & 7, Rummy:-)
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > > Ben,
> > > 
> > > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store
> > all
> > > the ice you need for rum
> > > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > > Sealed the deal.
> > > How's the new bimini working for ya?
> > > 
> > > Rummy
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
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> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus"
> > Sweepstakes
> > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 05:31:15 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <20040110133115.76401.qmail at web14918.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Ben
> > How did you end up installing the Bimini?  Any pics?
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com> wrote:
> > > The bimini's great.  Hard to believe I sailed
> > > without it down here.
> > > 
> > > Speaking of rum, I tried Mt. Gay as my eggnog
> > mixer
> > > this holliday season.
> > > Very good, not that you didn't know that already.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:08 PM
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] epinions
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ben,
> > > 
> > > You forgot to mention the neat ice box to store
> > all
> > > the ice you need for rum
> > > 
> > > and cokes. That was the absolute clincher for me.
> > > Sealed the deal. How's the
> > > new bimini working for ya?
> > > 
> > > Rummy
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 39
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:46:08 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cape Cod Fred 
> > To: "'Jim Connolly'" <jbconnolly at comcast.net>,
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
> > <info at roadworksauto.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000001c3d780$1e7b2b00$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jim:
> > Where do you keep your boat during the winter?  
> >                                  Ed K  
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Connolly [mailto:jbconnolly at comcast.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:57 PM
> > To: kroposki at innova.net
> > Subject: RE: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred 
> > 
> > I see, now.
> > 
> > I sail Salem Harbor, MA on the north shore (with
> > respect to Boston).
> > 
> > Or as we say up here "noth shoah"
> > 
> > BTW, I have had eight in the cockpit.  At 6'1" the
> > boom barely hits my head
> > standing in the cockpit, so sailing while sitting
> > should be safe for all.
> > 
> > There is no centerboard trunk intruding into the
> > cockpit as there is in the
> > Mariner.  Hopping over the trunk while tacking was a
> > major pain (quite
> > literally).
> > 
> > Jim Connolly 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kroposki [mailto:kroposki at innova.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:40 PM
> > To: 'Jim Connolly'
> > Subject: Jim see here - Cape Cod Fred 
> > 
> > 
> > Jim:
> > I guess you missed his reply to my question.  He
> > said he sails Cape
> > Cod.  I thought that you sailed somewhere up there?
> >                     Ed K
> > "Thanks, Ed. I am on Cape Cod, only daysail. My
> > reason if mostly to have
> > more cockpit room for guests, for them not to have
> > to hop over cboard trunk
> > ona tack and duck for the boom. Fred"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 40
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:58:43 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000101c3d781$deda0910$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Mary Lou,
> > Have you noticed that since the announcement about
> > the Seaward 26,
> > Stan has not been on the list?  Has he communicated
> > to anyone or has he
> > simply sailed away?  Maybe nobody has made a
> > political statement lately?
> >                      Ed K
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > 
> > Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> > thinking of us -grin-
> > 
> > We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out the
> > logistics. Last year we 
> > got there early and got a free parking place on the
> > street. I don't think 
> > I've ever been in a casino.....
> > 
> > I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> > much care for the 25 but 
> > it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> > niches, Com-Pac is going to 
> > have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> > making the 16 and the 19 
> > and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> > centerboard sloop with a
> > 
> > stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> > system, stainless arch.
> > 
> > See you there.
> > 
> > Mary Lou
> > 
> > At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed up,
> > we are at Sping
> > Cove,
> > >must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking of
> > you folks.
> > >
> > >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> > but some ofr us will
> > drive,
> > >so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
> > >See ya at A/C!!!.
> > >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward 26RK?
> > >
> > >Russ
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > Sat)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > > >
> > > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> > expect someone to take
> > us in
> > > > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > within walking distance
> > of
> > >the
> > > > Convention Center?
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with us
> > Sat night? (US =
> > >Bulldogers,
> > > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Russ
> > > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > Hall, MD
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 41
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:15:09 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A/C show Jan 17 ( Sat)
> > To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <20040110141509.77398.qmail at web14911.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > Hey Ed
> > If a political statement is needed; I'm willing to
> > step up to the plate:-)
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net> wrote:
> > > Mary Lou,
> > > Have you noticed that since the announcement
> > about
> > > the Seaward
> > > 26, Stan has not been on the list?  Has he
> > > communicated to anyone or has
> > > he simply sailed away?  Maybe nobody has made a
> > > political statement
> > > lately?
> > >                      Ed K
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
> > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17 (
> > > Sat)
> > > 
> > > Well that's what I thought. Glad to know you were
> > > thinking of us -grin-
> > > 
> > > We'll have a car too, just trying to figure out
> > the logistics. Last 
> > > year we
> > > got there early and got a free parking place on
> > the
> > > street. I don't
> > > think 
> > > I've ever been in a casino.....
> > > 
> > > I'll be interested to see the Seaward 26. I didn't
> > > much care for the 25
> > > but
> > > it certainly fills a niche. Speaking of filling
> > > niches, Com-Pac is going
> > > to 
> > > have its new 18 ft. sloop there. They've stopped
> > > making the 16 and the
> > > 19 
> > > and will now be making the Eclipse: 18 ft. keel
> > > centerboard sloop with a
> > > 
> > > stainless centerboard, open transom, masttender
> > > system, stainless arch.
> > > 
> > > See you there.
> > > 
> > > Mary Lou
> > > 
> > > At 06:56 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Sorry, not Swan Creek, Got my location screwed
> > up,
> > > we are at Sping
> > > Cove,
> > > >must have been st least sub-conciously, thinking
> > of
> > > you folks.
> > > >
> > > >Wild, Wild West is not exlactly walking distance
> > > but some ofr us will
> > > drive,
> > > >so, never fear, salvatiopn uis near!!
> > > >See ya at A/C!!!.
> > > >PS Elton will also be showing the new Seward
> > 26RK?
> > > >
> > > >Russ
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:21 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: A/C show Jan 17
> > (
> > > Sat)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Swan Creek marina??? Russ what slip?
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred & I will be at AC on the 17th. We will
> > > expect someone to take
> > > us in
> > > > > hand and lead us to dinner. Are these places
> > > within walking distance
> > > of
> > > >the
> > > > > Convention Center?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mary Lou
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 06:15 PM 1/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >So, we all is going??  W will be dining with
> > us
> > > Sat night? (US =
> > > >Bulldogers,
> > > > > >MJM & crew, the Maestro (Elton) & who????
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Russ
> > > > > >s/v Bulldog, now of Swan Creek Marina at Rock
> > > Hall, MD
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > > > > >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > > >
> > >
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> > > 
> > > 
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 42
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:24:58 -0500
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <000701c3d7d0$f9feca60$6400a8c0 at kroposki>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Subject: Is this true?
> > 
> > For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> > posts to the list, is the
> > quote that was sent to me true?
> >                                 Ed K
> > 
> > Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn 
> > 
> > I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> > is a great answer from
> > John Glenn. 
> > 
> > Some people still don't understand why military
> > personnel do what they do
> > for a living. This exchange Between Senators John
> > Glenn and Sen. Howard
> > Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty
> > impressive and
> > impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of
> > one man's explanation of
> > why men and women in the Armed Services do what they
> > do for a living. This
> > is a typical, though sad, example of what some who
> > have never served think
> > of the Military. 
> >   
> > Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you
> > run for Senate when you've
> > never held a "real job?" 
> >   
> > Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United
> > States Marine Corps. I
> > served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My
> > plane was hit by
> > antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
> > 
> > I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my checkbook,
> > Howard; it was my Life
> > on the line. It was not a nine to five job, where I
> > took time off to take
> > the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go
> > with me ... as I went
> > the other day... to a Veterans Hospital and look
> > those men - with their
> > mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they
> > didn't hold a job!
> >   
> > You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go,
> > as I have gone, to the
> > widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and
> > Roger Chaffee...and you look
> > those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS
> > didn't hold a job.
> > 
> > You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
> > Arlington National Cemetery,
> > where I have more friends buried than I'd like to
> > remember, and you watch
> > those waving flags. You stand there, and you think
> > about this Nation, and
> > you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
> > 
> > I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on
> > your knees every day of
> > your life thanking God that there were some men -
> > SOME MEN - who held REAL
> > job. And they required a dedication to a purpose -
> > and a love of country and
> > a dedication to duty - that was more important than
> > life itself. And their
> > self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.
> > 
> > I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?" 
> > 
> > For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard
> > Metzenbaum was an
> > attorney representing the Communist Party in the
> > USA. Now he is a Senator! 
> > 
> > If you can read this, thank a teacher.... 
> > If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran 
> >   
> >   
> >      
> >       
> >    
> >   
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 43
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:59:00 -0600
> > From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> > To: kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <200401101759.01287.sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > Snopes says TRUE. I say, too bad John didn't get up
> > and kick Howard's ass!!!
> > 
> > He would have remembered that a lot longer than a
> > little ass chewing. :-)
> > 
> > Rik
> > 
> > 
> > On 01/10/2004 05:24 pm, Kroposki wrote:
> > > Subject: Is this true?
> > >
> > > For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> > posts to the list, 
> > > is the quote that was sent to me true?
> > >                                 Ed K
> > >
> > > Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> > is a great answer 
> > > from John Glenn.
> > >
> > > Some people still don't understand why military
> > personnel do what they 
> > > do for a living. This exchange Between Senators
> > John Glenn and Sen. 
> > > Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it
> > a pretty impressive 
> > > and impromptu speech, but it's also a good example
> > of one man's 
> > > explanation of why men and women in the Armed
> > Services do what they do 
> > > for a living. This is a typical, though sad,
> > example of what some who 
> > > have never served think of the Military.
> > >
> > > Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you
> > run for Senate when 
> > > you've never held a "real job?"
> > >
> > > Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United
> > States Marine Corps. I 
> > > served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My
> > plane was hit by 
> > > antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
> > >
> > > I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my
> > checkbook, Howard; it was my 
> > > Life on the line. It was not a nine to five job,
> > where I took time off 
> > > to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask
> > you to go with me 
> > > ... as I went the other day... to a Veterans
> > Hospital and look those 
> > > men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and
> > tell THEM they 
> > > didn't hold a job!
> > >
> > > You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and
> > go, as I have gone, to 
> > > the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom
> > and Roger 
> > > Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and
> > tell them that their 
> > > DADS didn't hold a job.
> > >
> > > You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
> > Arlington National 
> > > Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than
> > I'd like to remember, 
> > > and you watch those waving flags. You stand there,
> > and you think about 
> > > this Nation, and you tell ME that those people
> > didn't have a job?
> > >
> > > I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on
> > your knees every 
> > > day of your life thanking God that there were some
> > men - SOME MEN - 
> > > who held REAL job. And they required a dedication
> > to a purpose - and a 
> > > love of country and a dedication to duty - that
> > was more important 
> > > than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what
> > made this country 
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > I HAVE held a job, Howard! ---What about you?"
> > >
> > > For those who don't remember - During W.W.II,
> > Howard Metzenbaum was an 
> > > attorney representing the Communist Party in the
> > USA. Now he is a 
> > > Senator!
> > >
> > > If you can read this, thank a teacher....
> > > If you are reading it in English, thank a Veteran
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 44
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:43:27 -0500 (Eastern
> > Standard Time)
> > From: "CT" <ctscuba at aquaticworlds.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
> > <kroposki at innova.net>,
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> >
> <40008E1F.000003.35909 at home-laptop.frtprk01.fl.comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="Windows-1252"
> > 
> > Yes, it is true.
> > 
> > If you wonder about some of the stories on the net
> > (and you should), I refer
> > you to www.snopes.com 
> > 
> > All the best,
> > CT 
> >  
> > -------Original Message-------
> >  
> > From: kroposki at innova.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2004 06:25:17 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: Is this true?
> >  
> > Subject: Is this true?
> >  
> > For those of you who check out the veracity of re
> > posts to the list, is the
> > quote that was sent to me true? Ed K
> >  
> > Subject: Great Answer from John Glenn 
> >  
> > I don't know if this is true, but if it is true it
> > is a great answer from
> > John Glenn. 
> >  From FNuttersNY at aol.com  Sat Jan 10 19:16:01 2004
> > Return-Path: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>
> > X-Original-To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Delivered-To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com
> > (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6])
> > by web4.thecenturiongroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
> > id A38027C001
> > for <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; Sat, 10 Jan 2004
> > 19:16:01 -0500
> > (EST)
> > Received: from FNuttersNY at aol.com
> > by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id
> > x.ac.4ece1662 (30950)
> > for <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; Sat, 10 Jan 2004
> > 19:15:59 -0500
> > (EST)
> > From: FNuttersNY at aol.com
> > Message-ID: <ac.4ece1662.2d31efbf at aol.com>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:15:59 EST
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> > question
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007
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> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > 
> > Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget
> > norhteast. The old Hudson is 
> > freezing up quickley this week.  Does anyones older
> > boat have the top of the
> > 
> > roller fr.jib/forstay attached to a halyard?  Same
> > question concerning 
> > rollermain. It seams my boats sails are fixed at the
> > top of the mast but the
> > provision 
> > is there to hook up halyards so these sails can be
> > removed with the mast up.
> > If 
> > I add a  seperate forstay I can drop the roll.jib
> > set up back a bit to a 
> > fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck.   
> > It doesn't seam like a
> > bad 
> > idea to me since my sails  might need some work
> > after the boat is in the
> > water. 
> > The notion of removing them while the mast is up  is
> > one I like. Anyone see
> > a 
> > problem?
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 45
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:58:34 -0500
> > From: Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> > question
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Message-ID: <022701c3d7e6$6ba08e00$6501a8c0 at mjm2>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > 
> > sound like are trying to reinvent the CDI fuler, the
> > F2 with ballbarring are
> > not that expenive, should be alot less hassels in
> > the end and know to work.
> > 
> > MJM
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] general rigging
> > question
> > 
> > 
> > > Happy New Year and greetings from the fridget
> > norhteast. The old 
> > > Hudson is freezing up quickley this week.  Does
> > anyones older boat 
> > > have the top of the roller fr.jib/forstay attached
> > to a halyard?  Same 
> > > question concerning rollermain. It seams my boats
> > sails are fixed at 
> > > the top of the mast but the provision is there to
> > hook up halyards so 
> > > these sails can be removed with the mast up. If I
> > add a  seperate forstay
> > I can drop the roll.jib set up back a bit to a
> > > fitting 6 inches from the bow chainplate on deck. 
> >   It doesn't seam like
> > a bad
> > > idea to me since my sails  might need some work
> > after the boat is in 
> > > the water. The notion of removing them while the
> > mast is up  is one I 
> > > like. Anyone see a problem? 
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
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> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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