[Rhodes22-list]Guns and Politics

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 18 08:10:43 EST 2004


Only against Left Wing Democrats:-)Roger is
OK!!!!!!!!!
Steve


--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Careful, Roger,
> 
> I'm pretty sure your email is a violation of the USA
> Patriot Act.  They can lock you up, never tell
> anyone they have done so, and throw away the
> key--just for sending it.
> 
> You may think this law will only be applied against
> "them" -- but laws like this have a way of being
> used against "us" when there is a change in the
> political wind.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Roger Pihlaja 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]Guns and Politics
> 
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> Most of our guns are kept unloaded in a locked gun
> safe.  However, I do keep
> a loaded Beretta 96FS 0.40 S&W in a locked aluminum
> pistol case under the
> bed for home protection.  The lock is a combination
> lock & only I know the
> combination.  The Beretta is loaded with 165 grain
> Federal Hydroshock ammo.
> It'll knock anyone on their ass without penetration,
> even at close range &
> they won't be getting up.  I consistently score 3"
> patterns at 25 yards on
> the range with this pistol.  If someone broke into
> my house, I wouldn't
> hesitate to use this weapon on them.  Daniel & Gary
> both earned their rifle
> & shotgun merit badges in Boy Scouts.  They are both
> excellent shots & don't
> fool around when it comes to gun safety.  The boys
> have a key to the gun
> safe & frequently use their shotguns & rifles for
> hunting.  The only person
> in my family I wouldn't trust with a gun in my
> family is my wife, who is
> clueless re firearms.
> 
> My reading of the 2nd amendment and the period
> writings of Madison, Monroe,
> & Jefferson are that the 2nd amendment was intended
> to render the American
> population safe from a government that breaks it's
> own rules.  As such, the
> 2nd amendment is really the most important of the
> original 10 as it enables
> and safeguards that the rest of the Constitution and
> the Bill of Rights will
> be obeyed by the governement.  Knowing there are
> 200+ million guns out there
> has got to cause any overly ambitious politician a
> moment's reflection.  The
> 2nd amendment is really the ultimate check and
> balance on government power.
> For all the trouble that widespread gun ownership
> causes, it's still worth
> it.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]Guns and Politics
> 
> 
> > The one I know, 280 million in the US, 200 million
> guns, but the stat is
> skewed by multiple guns in the same household.
> >
> > MJM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "CT" <ctscuba at aquaticworlds.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]Guns and Politics
> >
> >
> > No country or locality has such a gun control law
> striclty and perfectly
> > enforced, the closest I can think of other than my
> Saturday night poker
> game
> > is Singapore and England (both restricting
> handguns).  But there are also
> > local jurisdictions that control guns.  Myself, I
> have a permit to carry.
> > Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.  And the weapon
> behind the headboard
> has
> > one in the pipe.  I'm not a bad guy either.
> > I don't know where your statistic of 50% of US
> households comes from...but
> > it seems high IMO.  Certainly, more bad guys have
> guns than good guys.
> > Unfortunately, the bad guys use theirs more.  As
> for the homeowner vs
> > intruder stats.  You probably won't see those
> anywhere.  It's bad for the
> > gun control crowd to advertise it...
> >
> > CT
> >
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