[Rhodes22-list] hull numbers was Jenny Tracks

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Wed Mar 17 21:53:19 EST 2004


guys, their is no system to GB numbers other than the builder code and the year code, a system would mean GB would have to be
regionalized, rose picks pretty numbers and hopfuly different :-)

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hull numbers was Jenny Tracks


> Todd,
>
> The HID number on my Maryland Vessel Registration form is the full Hull ID
> as listed in a previous message.  On reviewing the Rhodes Owners list
> mentioned before, I find Peter Horn with GBX220144A84 and Burt Brody with
> GBX220144A82.  If you accept that the Rhodes Owners list is correct, you
> have the answer to your question, if it is wrong all bets are off.
>
> As an aside, your example hull numbers are incorrect, the  Rhodes 22 '85
> numbering system changed, actually the law mandated  the numbering system
> change as of August 1, 1984, so that Jim Connolly's hull number is
> GBX22123C585 in order to maintain the required 12 character serial number
> (HIN).  The zero after GBX22 was dropped in order to include a 5 after the C
> (designating the date of certification as March, 1985).  The law works in
> mysterious ways.
>
> Lloyd
> (You know my vessel's name by now)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:33 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] hull numbers was Jenny Tracks
>
>
> >    Is the A84 acutally part of the hull ID number as far as registration
> purpose goes?  Can there be a  GBX220139A84 and a GBX220139M85? .....the
> same number except for the month and year of mfg?  Does the  220139 part of
> the number ever repeat or are the hull numbers all sequential?  Maybe this
> is a question that only Stan can answer.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:01:39 -0500
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
> >
> > > Wally,
> > >
> > > According to the FEB., 2004 Rhodes Owners list your Hull Number is
> > > GBX220144A84.
> > >
> > > Owners on the list that submitted their hull numbers as ending in A84
> are:
> > >
> > > Marc Beroz - GBX220139A84
> > > Wally Buck - GBX220145A84
> > > Lloyd Crowther - GBX220115A84
> > > Will Gower - GBX220113A84
> > > Bruce Greenwald - GBX220122A84
> > > Kip Hansen - GBX220123A84
> > > Peter Horn - GBX220144A84
> > >
> > > In addition, there was one A81 and two A82s.
> > >
> > > As this wonderful data base grows bigger we must revise a couple of
> previous
> > > guesses:
> > >
> > > (a) Maybe Stan certified all his hulls for 1986 as being built in August
> as
> > > a business practice - there were no other months listed for 81, 82 or
> 84.
> > >
> > > (b) Maybe Stan began his hull numbers at 00100 - there were no numbers
> > > listed as 000## or 0000#.
> > >
> > > While this data is way too small to be any more than a joke, such
> reality
> > > has never deterred me before so I will go bravely on the record as
> saying my
> > > current conclusion is that Stans production was less than 50 boats a
> year,
> > > thereby costing Stan most of the fortune that made him the Henry Ford of
> the
> > > yachting world. Sorry Stan!
> > >
> > > But to be serious(finally), this exercise started out as a question
> about
> > > the length of genoa tracks on the '84 model R22 brought on by the more
> > > weighty discussions that have dominated the list lately.  Any more
> answers
> > > concerning that subject would be of interest and I will stop all this
> (what
> > > was that word of Roger's, oh yeah) BS.
> > >
> > > Lloyd
> > > s/v Uhuru II
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:49 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have an 84 but don't have hull number handy -
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jenny Tracks was RE: lee helm
> > > > >Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:33:08 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Ed,
> > > > >
> > > > >We are beginning to see some sort of
> > > > >a trend here (I think).  Our boats are 12 units apart (115A84 and
> > > 127A84);
> > > > >built, or at least the hull number issued, in the same month and year
> > > > >(A84);
> > > > >with the same long Genoa track.  However, I don't have any inside
> tracks
> > > > >(either on my yacht or in figuring out this trend)!
> > > > >
> > > > > >From this massive sampling of data I do conclude (a) Sam was having
> a
> > > > >good
> > > > >year selling Rhodes22s and (b) each one was at least semi-customized,
> > > > >either
> > > > >to the individual buyer's wants, or Sam's whims (or his maturing
> sailboat
> > > > >design).  Maybe some else with the same era hull number will increase
> > > this
> > > > >already massive data bank by another 50% from which we should be able
> to
> > > > >deduct hull speeds and owner's complexions.
> > > > >
> > > > >By the way - Peter, what is your hull number?
> > > > >
> > > > >Tongue-in-cheek Lloyd
> > > > >s/v Uhuru II
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:18 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: lee helm was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new
> genny????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lloyd,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have 127A84.  I have long Genoa tracks and inside tracks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                                 Ed K
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lloyd
> > > Crowther
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: lee helm was Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new
> genny????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mary Lou,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My hull number is GBX220115A84.  I'd like to hear from somebody
> with a
> > > > > > hull
> > > > > > number near that to see if that particular evolution all had long
> > > tracks
> > > > > > like mine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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