[Rhodes22-list] Politics -Gross Pictures of Iraq War

[stan]

Brad,

Tell me I have misread this and that you are not joining those who use the 
nonsense of accusing those who do not fall in lock step, as guilty of not 
supporting our troops. (Incidentally I was around in 1944 and we did have 
our Father Coughlins and Lindberghs who had their reasons for their views. 
It was a democracy and they had their say)

Tell me you are not using the mean tactic of "not supporting our troops" as 
a way of diverting issues like this war was so urgent we had to go into it 
without proper protection for our troops and without proper planning for the 
killing war that began after we had declared victory.

Tell us why the kids from your "Jesuland" are being forced to fight this war 
without the kids from a single Arab nation willing to join the "Coalition". 
So you don't like some of the middle, or left of middle, media.  But it 
hurts me to hear you sounding like some of the right wing media freaks 
spewing out this hate garbage that we do not supporting our troops.

They did such a darn good job making my bleeding liberal label a shameful 
connection that I am forced to adopt a new label that will hopefully be 
harder to vilify.

stan
enlightened capitalist.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics -Gross Pictures of Iraq War


> Ed,
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how people will let their
> partisan politics get in the way of supporting their
> own country's troops.  Vietnam hangover, I guess.
> Anyway, there was a lot of good news from Iraq in the
> last two weeks, but you have to go beyond the MSM and
> their adgenda to find most of it.  I don't waste my
> time rebutting the naysayers anymore, I'm just glad
> they weren't around this time of year in 1944.  We
> were up against some "tough sledding" in both Europe
> and the Pacific and to hear them tell it, I sure they
> would say "we're doomed.
>
> Here's a story about Fallujah that needs to be told:
>
> http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008640.php
>
> Be sure and check the photo at the bottom.
>
> For some other perspective, here's a few articles I've
> been reading.
>
> http://slate.msn.com/id/2090772
>
> http://www.peacewithrealism.org/antiwar.htm
>
> http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2002/11/11/kerrey/index2.html
>
>
> http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0204/0204justinvade.htm
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/11/21/do2106.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/11/21/ixop.html
>
>
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04326/414709.stm
>
> We have every right to be proud of our military's
> performance.  Let the doomsday critics enjoy thier
> freedom because a bunch of kids from "Jesusland" are
> willing to fight!
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> --- ed kroposki <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>> As you are aware, I do not agree with you.
>> However, I also
>> understand it is useless to try reason and put forth
>> other information.
>> Circulating on the internet are some pictures that
>> prove your point.
>> See the attached pictures.
>> Shocking Pictures from Iraq...too gross for ABC,
>> CBS AND CNN.
>>
>> Ed K
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 2:56 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics -Tom Sowell
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Our objective in Iraq has been from the beginning
>> to
>> > change the political dynamics of a whole region.
>> > Yeah, it was sold on WMD, disposing a dictator,
>> etc.,
>> > but the real reasons are that everything we've
>> tried
>> > in the last thirty years haven't worked.  That
>> point
>> > was driven home on 9/11.
>>
>> Yes, it was sold on a lie - continues under no-win
>> conditions with no clear exit strategy, and has
>> resulted
>> in dividing the US from it's allies, alienating much
>> of
>> the word, and fostering Islamic fundamentalism.  If
>> what we tried in the past 30 years didn't work at
>> least
>> it was not the flaming disaster that we have on our
>> hands
>> now.
>>
>> Ron
>>
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